Slide closure on a fresh magazine

offeror

Years ago I was under the illusion that on most semi-auto pistols, the slide snapped shut when a fresh magazine was slammed into place, thus loading the chamber and preparing to continue to fire. I was on a message board not too different from this one talking about proper slide operation and people took the gravest exception to this concept, and asked me where I'd got that idea.

Frankly, I still think it's a good idea, especially for military weapons, if the slide were to close, thereby loading the chamber, when a fresh mag was properly inserted while the slide was locked back. This would make for quicker continuation of fire.

But I recently discovered that the reason I got this idea was because my Grandad's Mauser 1934 .32 war relic does this, probably due to worn parts somewhere. You pop in a fresh mag with the slide open, and it snaps shut -- you're ready to go.

Not kosher, I guess, but this idiosyncracy of the gun doesn't bother me -- I kinda like it. I was wondering if anyone else thinks this is an engineering change worth considering, since it would save at least a few milliseconds in a combat situation. Perhaps there could even be a selector for this mode.

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William81

Only in the hands of someone that is very familar with the firearm and then I am not convinced it is a great idea.

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Josey1

I try and practice tactical reloads as much as possible for that very reason of not locking the slide back.Out of 10 rounds I fire three,three,drop mag. insert new mag retaining 4 remaining rounds in ejected mag. in pocket,fire off the rounds in he full mag. then recharge with the remaining 4.I learned this in a class in which the instructer said that in most cases a gunfight is over after a few rounds but in the case it isn't,this type of tactical reload guarentees your gun remains charged throughout the gunfight,This way you can fire 16 rounds and have 4 emergency rounds left over if the battle was to continue.If you were shooting it out and had an attacker rush you at the precise second you dropped a depleted mag with the slide locked back you would be dead.That fraction of a second between mags in a tactical reload your gun has 1 round in the pipe.

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concealedG36

I don't know offeror, I can see where you're coming from but I think it would be dangerous if you weren't highly skilled.

Josey1, that is a really interesting concept. I think I'll try that, thanks!



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offeror

There shouldn't be any more danger of an AD than there is when you voluntarily drop the slide or press the slide release, it seems to me. You're just skipping a step by having the gun do automatically what you would have to think about doing otherwise. If you want the chamber empty, you would not load a mag with the slide open anyway, right? You would close the slide first, then pop the mag in.

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nunn

Slide stops on Glocks seem to wear prematurely. Nearly all of them I have seen will do this after a while. I don't see it as a problem. The idea is to get the gun ready to shoot again quickly, right?

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Evil ATF

I can verify that. My Glock 23 began doing just that after about 300 rounds.

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idsman75

My parents' Kel-Tec P-11 does that when you use enough force. It generally requires less force to cause this than what I apply so it does it for me every time.

offeror

Well, when this came up on that other board I was told in no uncertain terms that no gun was designed that way and if a gun was doing that it was malfunctioning. I have no reason to disbelieve that, but as I said, it's not necessarily a drawback either. I'm actually surprised to hear so many of your guns do this, however. I didn't think it would be quite so common.

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