beretta or colt 45?

8THIDJackson

pick one, i wanna get a poll

JaCkSoN-

ruger270man

Your polls suck


Neither, Kimber.

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jsergovic

O1091
- Stainless finish, stainless frame & slide
- 5" barrel length
- 8?" overall length
- Rubber composite grips
- Spur hammer

SilentKnight

A beretta 96fs loaded with +p+ ammo

Highball

You will find that most spec-ops units..if allowed to chose..will pick the Colt..or some variant of same.

Had the .45 bullets had as much 'tweaking' as the 9 mm..trying to make it into a .45..there would be no need of still discussing this issue.
A pistol I depend on,in an emergency, will start with a '.4 ' as to caliber.

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ruger270man

I'll go with the colt, because most of the military uses Beretta 9mm as their sidearm, so they mustve got the lowest bid. And if they got the lowest bid, theyre cheap. Haha

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idsman75

I've owned a mil-spec (read "base model") Colt 1991A1. I've also owned a brand spankin' new Beretta 92FS. I found that the Beretta is far more accurate out-of-the-box than the Colt. Now, if we can have ANY 1911 like a Kimber or a Wilson Combat then I'll take the 1911 all day long. I'll take an accurate big-bore gun any day of the week over something small and fast. If I have to go mil-spec then I'll side with the Beretta. I like to hit what I'm shooting at. I'm sorry but my Colt was absolutely LOUSY out-of-the-box.

jsergovic

ruger270man
Regretabally, you are correct. It came down to price. In the early '90's, the Army asked Colt and H&K to come up with a new handgun. Anyone who has stripped a Double Eagle will fall in love with the engineering immediately. The trigger was kind of loose, but that is a detail which would have been corrected if they went into full time production. The military picked the M9 (FS92), and it does not cut it. 9mm can't stop every crazed rag-head (I usually don't speak this way!) and the mag springs keep failing.

There are at least half a million M9's out there, I heard on these boards. So, yes, there is a financial issue here concerning maintainence and replacement. However, I would think logic should dictate the best possible Offensive Handgun Weapon System possible for the troops. The buck, and their enemy, eventually stops at their boots, the life dripping out of them.

jsergovic

idsman75
I regret your experience. I sent my NIB 01091 back to have the slide stop milled, and a Custom Shop gunsmith went over the whole thing. It was been perfect since shot one. I cannot remember a single feed problem. I think there was one dud round, but I'm using AE 230g. It is the most accurate shooter I have, barring my Browning 5.5" Buckmark. I'm actually grouping @ 25 yards! And I'm no shooter.

If it is on the CA list, I'd consider taking it off your hands. I'm looking for a problem piece to practice gunsmithing skills.

kuhlewulf

I can hit my targets just as well with a 1911 as the beretta. I use a straight armed isosceles hold with a 1911 and I use an over hand throw with the berreta, the barrel end gives better grip. Just mind the cracked chambers if you shoot a lot of +P ammo. Wouldn't want to get a cut. Heck, I'd take a Glock over a berreta[:0](thats a huge statement for me). Sorry, I just don't like 'em, and you did ask for opinions. If you can afford either of these, you can afford a good 1911 variant.

James

Whats next? A ban on automatic transmissions?

Manofaction

Ruger270man A kimber is a .45 what are you talking about.

96harley

Daisy .77 caliber pellet gun but you'll shoot your eye out kid.

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chunkstyle

I've shot both, lots, and both work just fine. In battle, you don't think too much of pistols. 99 and 44/100% of the time, anything worth shooting is worth shooting with the biggest thing you've got, and a pistol ain't it. Check cause-of-death military stats, in any war. Pistols, while handy, don't kill much.

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gunpaq

I asked a local policeman one time why he still carries a 1911 when the rest of the township's officers were issued the new 9mm Berettas he said: it's just like comparing the new low volume flush toilets to the old big tank models, why flush twice with the new one when the old one only takes one flush to put the piece of *@#~% away?

Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.

Don't fly the river!

PATBUZZARD

As a tanker, my personal weapon is the berretta m9. While I can hit what I aim at with it, (expert), I still wish I were alowed to carry a .45. Most tankers I have talked to wish that they still were allowed to carry the old 1911. You just can't beat the stopping power of a .45acp.

Patrick Buzzard
US Army National Guard
19K-- tanker
"Strike Hard!!"

Ruger22

Put me down as a vote for both.

Brian Ostro.
member: NRA,RFC, John Birch Society, American Numismatic Association.

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Bandit to Doc Holliday:"You're just a drunk piano player, you're so drunk , you're probably seeing double!"
Doc Holliday: "I've got two guns, one for each of you! "

gap1916

.45acp Beretta

Greg
Former
USMC
ANGLICO

idsman75

I'm still eyeballing a LNIB Beretta 92FS at the local pawn shop. They're asking $350 for it and it doesn't look like it's EVER been fired.

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offeror

I've never found a Beretta 92 attractive. In fact, if the Glock had not been available when I got serious about handgunning, I'd probably have bought a nice Browning Hi-Power. As it was, I also owned an Astra A-70 and a few other 9mms without ever wishing to spend the extra premium they were charging for a Beretta. Frankly, when the military went to the M9, it was a surprise to me, since advanced models from H&K and other makers had been offered in .45 ACP. Everything that makes the 9mm round nose more "humane" also makes it less effective. And the Beretta had not been free from its own design problems, so there was nothing special about it.

Granted that Colts and Springfields were often customized as soon as they were purchased in the private sector, but there was no secret about how to make the most mediocre .45s into great guns. Finally, most of the custom .45 features were standardized in guns by ParaOrd, Kimber, Springfield, and even Smith & Wesson. Given the superiority of a .45 round nose over the smaller and lighter 9mm, I'd take the .45, even if it was a Colt Government or a 1991A1. I could make it work right with very little effort, if there were any hitches. The truth is, I'd probably try one of those new AutoOrd/Kahr .45s (a Pit Bull if they still make it) before I'd pop for a Beretta 9mm. There is nothing wrong with the 92 as a 9mm handgun; it's just that I prefer other things -- and if I had to have a Beretta, it would be the .40 S&W, as has been previously mentioned.

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royc38

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4wheeler

I will ask an honest question,do all Colts shoot right out of the box? I have some friends at work,each of them had work done to their guns before they would shoot,they had feed problems. Honest, I am not trying to stir. To prove it,I bought a Beretta 96 FS and had to change trigger spring to satisfy myself,it has never missfired but I did not like the trigger.

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