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Why not Tom Selleck?

agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
As President of the NRA. He is in the spotlight. He did beat Rosie at her own game. He is a good friend of Hestons.

AlleninAlaska

He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
-- Thomas Paine
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Other than debating rosie o what has he ever done for the NRA or the 2nd amendment? There are a lot of others more suited. How about J.C. Watts?

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally I feel he did a geat job with Rosie O and probably be
    a good choice. He does not lose his cool, which is one big thing
    we need. He is young enough, yet old enough, and well known. I would go for it.
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  • TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
    edited November -1
    He would get my vote.
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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what about Arnold Schwarenegger Or Ted Nugent?They both like guns.lol

    Eric S. Williams

    Edited by - E.Williams on 08/13/2002 19:35:31
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Selleck has donated many of his personal and movie prop firearms to worthy causes - such as the Cowboy Museum in OKC. But is he even a member of the NRA? Also he is still active in the entertainment industry, while the NRA Presidency is surely a full time position - also a consideration w/ Nugent & Schwartzenegger. Now, J.C.Watts would be a PR coup. Sharp and articulate . . . and, BTW, a person of color. The mushbrains would have to be very careful with their negative comments lest they be labeled bigots.
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Have seen Selleck in one of those "I'm the NRA" ads.

    AlleninAlaska

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
    -- Thomas Paine
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  • rameleni1rameleni1 Member Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My vote's for TED. He is very Diplomatic, and shows extreme restraint when interviewed. Everyone tries to push his buttons, but he holds back. I hope he has time to do more. He is A++

    Rameleni1
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting phenomenom putting a celebrity at the head of your organization. No question Heston's name recognition helped build the NRA to it's highest membership levels. Why did this happen?... Chuck is extremely comfortable in front of a camera and knows the media game as well as anyone. His track record as a leader is proven...past president of the Screen Actors Guild, civil rights issues, conservative spokesman....these experiences have groomed him well for the NRA head position. The fact that he is a Hollywood legend in the same vien as John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Ronald Reagan and others no doubt has insulated him from much critisism and attracted others not familiar with the cause. We are indeed fortunate to have someone that not only served one term....but "4 Terms" as it's head. It clearly shows the advantage of a multiple term leader....he's more popular today than at any other period of his 4 year service.

    What appeals to many gun owners is the fact that for the first time we have someone the media giants pay attention to...why? Here again, they too are attracted to his "Star Power", it translates into good copy and ratings when Charlton Heston speaks. If anyone else without the name power were to try and voice the cause, they wouldn't get half the attention Chuck does. Does this mean we must seek out a high profile figurehead to keep the momentum going?.....

    Selleck is an NRA member, he too could possibly fill the shoes someday. Many don't realize the downside some of these celebrities would bring upon their careers by taking the NRA leadership. These folks make their money in front of Hollywood's cameras...and if Hollywood decides the individual is not PC enough, they are blackballed from certain projects. Heston has suffered the scorn of Hollywood's elite, but he has handled it with class and dignity.

    Ted Nugent poses some problems as a possible candidate. I like Ted, but he is a lightning rod in some respects. His "in your face" mannerisms are pure Ted,...many like him and many are repelled by him. His Rock and Roll "tell it like it is" style works for a younger audience, but he will have some trouble reaching across to other demographic groups. Heston was comfortable with any segment of American society and portrayed himself as a polished professional leader.

    In all likely hood the next President will be Kayne Robinson. I've worked with him on many projects over the years. You'll look a long time to find a pro-gun activist as talented and politically savy as Kayne. He's former military, a retired Assistant Police Chief for the city of Des Moines, competitive shotgun and handgun shooter, avid hunter and a man who gets things done. As an LEO, we would regularly see him on the TV news being interviewed at crime scenes and has superb command of and experience with the media. If you've never heard him speak, your in for a treat...his knowledge about gun laws and what is politically possible will amaze you. Now he may not get the same response sending a letter out that Heston would have, and he may not have the same national name recognition, but you can look for good things to come if he is elected next year as President.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally I dont like the idea of having a 'famous' person as President. I dont like PC people, cause to me the only thing PC means is that someone isnt telling it like it really is, in fact, it means they are lying. Saying that having a man of color would be of benefit just doesnt fly for me. No disrespect to you Iconoclast, this is a passionate belief of mine, and you just happen to be the one that addressed a common belief of many people. I dont even like the term 'man of color', again, PC bullcrap. I've never seen that as a choice for race when checking a block, so why do we use it any other time? Because people are WUSSIES, and dont like being called the color they are? I dont even want to get started on that. When I vote for the President of the U.S. I dont vote based on color, and I dont vote based on name recognition. I vote based on ability to do the job, and a person who thinks as much like I do as possible, if I can determine how the candidates think. I wouldnt vote for someone because he/she was famous or black, or whatever. I'd vote for someone that can do more than the past NRA Presidents have, thats for sure. I'm not at all happy with everything the NRA has done in the past 10 years. Maybe that would change if we had a President in there who was more than just a figure head, and speaker. If thats all the President really is for in the NRA, then maybe they should just hire a professional speaker and call that office what it is, PR control. We'd be ticked if the President of the U.S. did nothing more than just speak at public events, and I feel no differently about the President of the NRA. I'd vote for someone more like Ted Nugent, not the Ted Nugent, but more like him than not. Tell it like it is, be articulate, do not take anyones crap, be worried about nothing else but the job you have been elected to do, and stand up for gun owners no matter who is telling you to be PC and back off a bit. The problem with a lot of Americans is that they havent earned what they have. Its about time we had someone with enough intestinal fortitude to stand up in front of America and tell them that. Tell them what keeps them free, weapons. Tell them what protects them, weapons. Tell them what they should be man/woman enough to teach their children to use safely, weapons. Tell them what they should be, man and woman enough to be willing to use weapons, to ensure they stay free, and protected, instead of relying on someone else to continually give them something called peace of mind, like everything else they are given. Its time to elect someone to the NRA that will do what needs to be done. I'm so sick of all the people just sitting on their assests and never standing up for what is right because they dont want to rock the boat, even though they think exactly like I do. Vote for a President for the NRA that will rock the darn boat. Heston isnt a bad guy I'm sure, but I dont think hes ever rocked anything besides a chair. Maybe Ted isnt such a bad choice.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC

    Edited by - robsguns on 08/13/2002 22:08:29
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The NRA learned something by having Charlton Heston as President -- the value of a known personality in the office. Heston had been Pres. of the Screen Actors Guild, so he had some administration experience. But far more than that, he had a tradition of a certain kind of film roles, and the image of a respected actor with a distinguished career.

    The reason why this was important is the same as if John Wayne had been NRA President -- it's tough for the anti-gunners to paint the NRA as cracked radicals when they're led by a well-known respected personage. When the NRA elects someone who is not in the public eye, it's much easier to claim the NRA is led by a small, out of touch, elite special interest group. Heston gave the organization a broader base of legitimacy with mainstream Americans for a while. Some hardliners may have thought he was cracked and going senile for taking on the Presidency of the NRA, but Heston was his own best proof that he wasn't suffering from elderly mental infirmity. In fact, he was a good figurehead and a pretty good speaker on behalf of the leadership. But of course he was not the whole leadership.

    Whether the next President will be someone well-known, I don't know. I don't think it's necessary, and I can't think of any obvious choices. But the NRA can't be blamed if they now better appreciate the concept of having a "poster boy." The membership did climb during Heston's tenure. He's supposedly staying in the office until next April, so there's time yet to see what happens.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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  • SUBMARINERSUBMARINER Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sellek defended the nra.if he will promise not to bend over for the liberals as often as heston did he has gort my vote

    SUBMARINE SAILOR,TRUCK DRIVER,RUSTY WALLACE FAN AND AS EVERYONE SO OFTEN POINTS OUT PISS POOR TYPIST e-mail:WNUNLEY@USIT.NET
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  • EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think Jerry Mathers(The Beaver)is unemployed at the moment.Belongs to the NRA,well known,and loved by millons.
    Dr.Evil
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  • hillbillyhippiechichillbillyhippiechic Member Posts: 97 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm a member of GOA, but if Tom Selleck became president of NRA, I would join again! For a chance to meet him, oh yeah......

    PEACE..., through superior firepower.
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  • armed_ femalearmed_ female Member Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    me...I agree, tom selleck is nice to look at...but I vote for Charlie Daniels...he certainly would not be labeld "PC" by anyone

    Gun Control is Hitting Your Target!
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  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ted because his wife and him bring kids into it that's where it all starts




    Hell ladies if we gonna vote on looks i say lets sign up a couple of playmates hehehehehehehehehe

    Harleeman1030@aol.com
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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Harlee playmates and guns....to good to be true!Charlie Daniels wouldnt be so bad cause he is just a "Simple Man" but I would say Ted Nugent as well.

    Eric S. Williams
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ryan, I understand what you are saying and in many ways I agree. However I do believe that the "popular" (which is to say, the "uninformed" or "stereotypical") perception of the NRA is conservative white males. I have nothing against that particular group - I is one - but in today's society, aside from the PC b***s***, having a leader who doesn't match the stereotype carries some value, suggesting none too subtlely to the fence sitters (especially) that perhaps their preconceptions and the media negativity are wrong. I'm not advocating a candidate because of race! I'm only suggesting that here is a man who is smart, articulate, talented . . . and as a side benefit contradicts much of the negative imagery which the media tries to apply to firearms owners. Could hardly call Congressman Watts an ignorant redneck! I would find their frustration with their inability to play the stereotype card enormously amusing.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey I'm voting for J.C Watts on this one!!!! It will F*** the liberals up for decades!!! Beach
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey I'm voting for J.C Watts on this one!!!! It will F*** the liberals up for decades!!! Beach
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry for the double tap.....Beach
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    I don't know JC Watts from JC Higgins but I'd definetly cast a vote for Nugent, the "Wackmaster" himself!!

    Tom Selleck might be the saner and more middle of the road selection, whereas Ted would have to tone it down a notch, but both are really dedicated to keeping firearms sporting alive.

    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!
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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I dont care who it is as long as they bring recspect with them to the NRA.

    MY 2 cents!

    Rugster
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote: Tom Selleck might be the saner and more middle of the road selection, whereas Ted would have to tone it down a notch, but both are really dedicated to keeping firearms sporting alive.



    Matt - it isn't about SPORT

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wouldn't rule out someone like Louise Mandrell or Selleck in the future. Who knows, John Dingle has served on the board in the past.....

    While J.C. Watts would be a good candidate, I doubt he would have much interest in it at this time. His focus after he leaves Congress will be to spend time with his family and pursue business ventures. There may be some "future job opportunities" available for him...perhaps a 2004 VP position or something in 2008. For someone with possible political aspirations in the future, running as the "former NRA President" would be like sticking a lightning rod on your head.


    Edited by - Rembrandt on 08/14/2002 21:36:14
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  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:running as the "former NRA President" would be like sticking a lightning rod on your head.

    Put very well

    If you will blame gun makers for every shooting then blame car maker for every car accident.
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    I think Tom Selleck would do a fine job but would he have time- making movies and all?
    You could vote for ME, but no one knows who I am!
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  • verne787verne787 Member Posts: 33 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about the "Motor City Madman", Ted Nugent? Maybe to extreme!?
    "They went drugging ,I went hunting, their all dead and I'm still Ted".
    "War? I love war, that's where the good guys get to kill the bad guys!"
    God, Guns, and Rock and Roll.

    I thank Ted is a very interesting candidate.
    I see him as talented, energetic, enthusiastic, successful, honest, generous, dependable, independent, fearless, very extreme, and non political. I don't know if he has a morgage to pay. I suspect not.
    Some of these traits can work against you. But maybe someone that has all these traits can really make something happen.
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That is why I am not liking NRA ,Too much politics ,falling in aquiesense,lameness in the line of duty and substituting the president is becoming a beauty pegeant.....

    Who has the "bighest caliber" for the position ?????

    A simple man in California Victim of a muggin in his home after his guns were taken .....

    Be sure he will take no s**t from any politician....


    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
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  • 4wheeler4wheeler Member Posts: 3,441
    edited November -1
    I want someone 'Who Will Take No Prisoners"I would liKe to see J.C. Watts get the job but I do not believe he would take it.

    "It was like that when I got here".
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