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Demented auction prices....

Dan308Dan308 Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
Boy, anyone notice how insanely off most of the prices are on the auction board? I saw a scope I could buy for 62.49 for 340.00. Either this guy is a idiot or thinks we are. It's like my uncle said, "If you own it, it ain't worth a damn, If they own it, it's worth a Fing fortune".
Dan
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  • vol fanvol fan Member Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've just about quit cruising the auction board because it's too many high reserves, too many high starting prices, and too many dealers listing their whole inventory at MSRP.

    Last week I was looking at scopes and saw one starting at 200% of what I paid Midway for the same scope 3 weeks ago.

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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Don't give up. Some of us use no reserve, and starting bids that are WAY below where we expect it to go, allowing for some spirited bidding. If the other guys don't sell their stuff, they will either adjust or go away.

    SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the best gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net
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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    I have sold several firearms on GB and have found it most difficult to sell, that is if I want to make any kind of profit. I sell under the name of killer-dealz. Most firearms I sell generate anywhere from a 10 to 30 dollar profit. I tried to sell brand new 10-22's for $139.00 and it took severval months to sell them (I had three). If I want to sell ANYTHING on GB I have to bee extremely competitve. Yeah, there are alot of arseholes who ask ridiculous prices and this will not change because GB does not charge a fee UNLESS the item sells. Also, I cannot sell alot of decent firearms at good prices because they might be foriegn and not widely known. Most americans are extremely ignorant when it comes to knowing what a good firearm is. The majority feel that if it is not "american" it must be crap. It never ceases to amaze me how much money some people will spend to accquire a recognizable firearm when they could save alot more money obtaining a lesser known but just as good firearm.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I brought this to Admin once, not sure if they got my complaint or not because I never heard anything back from them but I get ticked when I see some of the dealers place ads in the actions to contact them directly to avoid using the action. They place in the ads," Don't want to wait for the auction to end? Email us". What is the buy feature for? When I see those ads I just go to the next seller, they are cheating GB and the buyer because if you do it the way they want, GB loses on the sellers fee and if you get a bum deal you have no security with GB because you bought directly with out using the system.

    Nunn does have some great deals and is truly one of the better sellers on GB. I wish the other dealers and sellers would take notice and try what he does.
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  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, I still browse but not as much. IMO the auctions are really only good for those hard to find items. On accessories I can usually find far better deals elsewhere. I realize that a seller has to price things above their cost to make a profit, but look at what the same item is going for on GB AND THEN see how many bids they're getting.

    One thing though, I've been eyeing actions for used S&W 629s and HK USPs and from time to time you can get a really good deal.

    But I'm not so sure other guys adjust or go away. I seem some of the same items with reserve getting listed week after week. This one ++++ guy I see always has 2 pages of items, each with reserve and I hardly ever see the auction end above reserve.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking hard at the G3 Carbines (in good shootable condition), but would prefer one with the CETME-type wood stocks in nice condition. I am so keen for one that I'm thinking of selling or trading my new unfired PT145 (and 3 new mags) in order to get one sooner. The next gun show is May 18. Think I have a shot? How would you proceed? Anyone got any deal ideas out there? I also have 4 boxes of Black Hills .223 and a number of 20 and 30 rd. AR mags to unload if I'm going to go to a new "system." Not a bad problem to have, eh? The trick is going to be finding a really GOOD G3 carbine, I suppose.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, if I take the 10/22 as an example at $139, let's assume for the moment that it's the base model (blued). In my head I add $20 postage & handling and at least $20 for the FFLer's transfer fee at my end. That means the $139 base model 10/22 is going to be $184. I'm thinking I can do better locally. Am I wrong?

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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are some good deals out there. The fun is in finding them. Nunn just about gave away a S&W escort recently. I just recieved a package today with an old Lyman 310 kit in it. I paid $50.00 shipped. The bullet mold has never seen a drop of lead in it and that's what I was after. Midway would have nailed me $47.99 just for the mold and another $26.99 for the handles then shipping. I came out way ahead on a bullet mold I wanted and got a 310 tool & dies to boot. I guess it's just like gunshops. Some never have a customer in them and others you've got so many cars out front you can't park. Guess which usually has the better deals.

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  • azgunnut2@yahoo.comazgunnut2@yahoo.com Member Posts: 305 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey VolFan , were are you located ??? we are in sweetwater and will order (or transfer) any gun for $20.00 over cost....................
    azgunnut2@yahoo.com
    d.a. stearns / gunsmith
    gallery sales
    sweetwater , tn
    423-351-7571
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  • vol fanvol fan Member Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Azgunnut, we're both mislocated. I'm in Las Vegas.

    Offerer- What you want for the AR mags?

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let me find and count the mags first and I'll post something. The short answer is, less than they would cost at a gun show or by mail order. Maybe I can even post a jpg of them. Give me a little time. Of course, GB would rather I'd post an auction, no doubt.

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  • vol fanvol fan Member Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK LRH270@aol.com

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  • Dan308Dan308 Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, the problem is that the board is being used as a store front. You know, if you want to be Natchez, then start your own site! I can buy cheaper and more securely from "real" dealers. I saw a Tasco SSG10 scope for 345.00 on this board and I can buy it new at SWFA for 299.00. No wonder there is no deals to be had.
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are alot of fodder auctions (too high for practical sale), but I'm still really finding alot of good buys on gunbroker. Just wish I had the money to buy them all. Mainly find them in the used or no reserve searches.

    I just wish I had a dollar for every gun I wanted, then I'd be a rich man.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are deals out there, unfortunatly I don't always see them in time.
    http://gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=3839491


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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ruger, you shore missed that one eh? That gun would bring an easy $250 in the shops here.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Pawn Shops around here won't sell any Ruger P-Series for under $300.00.
    I was in a Pawn Shop Monday and a girl showed me a beat up P-944 (40cal)all scratched up with a rubber band holding the spare clip to the gun (no case)for $425.00.

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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    well im a n00b so I know not what firearms should go for so maybe you can help me

    1) a good solid 30-06 bolt action for hunting (you suggest brand and exact name plz because i really dont know cause like I said im a n00b)

    2) a new or used beretta 92 (probably fs) and some 15 round clips for it

    well thank you for helping a n00b (it means newbie or someone new to something)
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, in my opinion and it is only an opinion, there is only one real maker of fine hunting rifles, Remington. I love the 700 BDL.

    As far as the handgun, I'm not real big into them so i can't give good advise on them, there are a couple real knowledgeable fellas on here when it comes to handguns so I'll leave that up to them. I only own one auto and if I buy another it will be a Kimber, other than that I have a couple wheel guns, nothin fancy, just plain old shooters.
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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    is there any chance you could tell me about how much one of those should cost please

    Gun control is being able to hit your target!

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The remingtons are a little salty these days, I havent bought a new one in awhile but I feel safe to say you will lay out $500 for a new one. But to me it's worth it.

    I just thought of this, HOWA makes a decent rifle for about $100 cheaper. I don't know if they offer the '06 but I now they make a good 22-250. need to have one of the others help you with that one. I like guns but i have a habit of spending money on cars and these comps before I buy guns, compared to some of these guys here I'm way behind.
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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm thanks for the help and do you have irc ? oh and i looked on gb and found some 30-06 for about 500 + shipping + ffl + other stuff

    now what i need to ask you is wich is a better performing round the 30-06 or the 300 win magor should i maybe go for a 7mm ??

    Gun control is being able to hit your target!

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    Edited by - mrnathanlee on 05/11/2002 08:31:41
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your huntin deer, the '06 is plenty. It's hard to beat an '06, the 7mm rem mag has good points and bad points and the 300 mags are the same, good and bad. Another cal I like is the 7mm-08, it packs a pretty mean punch.

    If we get to talkin about what cal is better you will need a helmet and face shield becaue it gets heated in here sometime when this subject comes up!

    And whatever you do, don't mention a .223 for shooting anything larger that a mouse, there's a couple fellas in here that will bite your head off over that one!
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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have shot the .223 through an m16 and it was the worst shooting experience of my life, i would rather shoot the one and only gun in this house right now the old ruger 10/22 than that pos. although the .223 might not have been to blame it made me dislike the ammo altogether. I found a couble HOWA 30-06's and i might go with that but if you have irc i would really like to get on it with you and chat over it instead of over this :P

    Gun control is being able to hit your target!

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was it an M-16 or an AR-15? If it was a POS it was more than likely an older gun? I'm kinda fond of the Bushmaster AR-15s and I havent had any problems with it, and if you get the right load for the .223 it goes from being a pee shooter to a nasty little hole maker.
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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hehe it was an m16a2 national guard rifle that the marine recruter had to borrow for us kiddies to shoot (i was 17 at the time) and well when i got my turn (mind you there had already been 30-50 rounds through it) i steped up and had no idea how to work it so he explaned the basics (i knew safety so dont worry i just didnt know what was the actual safety or what was the mag relise :P ) so he set it up and then i like it up and shoot (im not exactly the best shot :P ) and well i notice the trigger feels somehow different then i try shooting it again and im like wtf it wont shoot and he was like oh it jamed then he puled the bolt back and i shot it 4 more times and missed the target 100 yards off (i was freaked the bolt was going to hit my face so i was way back on the stock) then i got up and waited my turn again and got a different rifle. this time i knew what to do so i did it and actually hit the target every time, i thought good job you r actually hitting yay. well this happened 2 more time (we only got to shoot 20 rounds cause there was like 30 ppl with us shooting 4 rifles so you can imagine they got somewhat hot and probably jamed a lot more) then the 4 recruiters had a lil 15 rd contest and well turns out it wasnt me cause even they were missing the target some :P now that i think about it it was kinda fun but i think my dads .357 mag revolver at the age of 11 was funner :P (he made us shoot the ruger 10/22 first to get us use to gun safety a lil)

    Gun control is being able to hit your target!

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HEHE, musta been worn out! There is 5 active military guys on here I can think of, they can tell you more about that weapon than I can, I never shot one, only weapons like that I ever shot was my Bushy's and they shoot pretty good.

    I'm going to drop this subject because when a couple others get on here they'll get my dander up and the crapola will fly!
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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    yeah the m16 probably can be a really good weapon but the ones i shot were nothin but pos's

    Gun control is being able to hit your target!

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's all on what you like, some guys can't stand it, others love it.

    The Howa should do you pretty good, I havent heard too many complaints about them and most of what I hear is good.
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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    yeah thanks for the info and everyone else please keep it coming especially about the pistol cause i dont want to over pay for that (although i do have to wait till im 21 GRRRRRR )

    Gun control is being able to hit your target!

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  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A good friend of mine that owns a small gun shop really hustled all winter long and went to all of the gun shows that he could. This meant packing up all the guns on a Thursday or Friday, then driving sometimes up to 5 hrs one way to the gun show. Of course this means that for a couple of days each week his gun shop sets empty of merchandise. He now says that he is fed up with the shows, very seldom did he sell enough guns to make expences. I suggested that he take a few guns each week and place them on G.B. It would sure be a lot less time consuming than the gun shows and who knows he just might increase money that goes into the till. He has a Glock 22 with high caps just setting in the case that is in excellent condition and he has no buyers for it. I sorta talked him into carrying a few AR's and now he has two Bushy's just sitting there. There is no way he can compete with dealers that can sell new stuff for 20 bucks over cost,however I belive that listing less common seen firearms and quality used guns is the way to go,,my 2 cents,,

    "No dear, this isn't a new gun,,I've had this one for quite a long time,,honest,,"
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