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glocks and saftey

tman3002tman3002 Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
Are Glocks safe for concealed carry when one is in the pipe?

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  • MrNathanLeeMrNathanLee Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    imho no gun should ever be caried with one in the pipe (if by pipe you mean in the barrel) but thats just me and cause i realize that im still young and ignorant and if i ever caried a firearm like that it would prolly go off and hirt/kill something/someone i didnt want to or need to.

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  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    tman Glocks are one of the safest firearms out there!! the firing pin spring is only preloaded part way and takes a intentional pull of the trigger to finish cocking the gun and firing it, plus the fact that you must have the small safty depressed all the way into the face of the trigger before any thing will happen ,,,, BUT LIKE ANY WEAPON ITS ONLY AS SAFE AS THE PERSON THATS HOLDING IT and if you plan on carrying concealed please get some training in that area
  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is a double action only revolver safe with a full cylinder? If you say yes then so is a Glock, it's the same idea.

    G36

    * For the last year or so, though, I have NOT carried with one in the pipe. Not that I would ever be so irresponsible as to leave my gun out, I have a baby daughter that surprises me every day as to her climbing abilities. I just practice quick draw and chambering a round.



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  • mkirklandmkirkland Member Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you aren't comfortable with one in the chamber, I would up your practice time. In a situation when you are going to have to pull your weapon seconds count. Your stressed you pull your gun and then you have to chamber a round. Bang your dead. I think it takes less than a second for a perp with a knife to cover 15 ft.(not sure about the exact time) Do you want an extra procedure to accomplish when the chips are down? I don't. Take a class, then take another and after that take a coupla more. Carrying is a commitment, it is all about practice, practice, practice.
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I woud recommend carrying it loaded only if you feel comfortable doing so.As far as all modern Double Action Handguns they use a transfer Bar safety,meaning the trigger has to be fully pulled back and held in order for the hammer to strike the fireing pin.Just as the Glock has to have the trigger fully pulled and held to the rear.But I would say dont ever do anything you dont feel comfortable with,there is some reason for feeling that way.


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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    Its how I carry mine. Just make sure you are up on your draws.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The emphasis for carrying a Glock with chamber loaded should be on 3 things, in my humble opinion -- and I'm agreeing with others here: First, choose holsters that cover the trigger guard. Second, be sure your drill for drawing keeps your finger out of the trigger guard until the gun is being pointed at the target. Third, and maybe most important, reholstering a loaded Glock with a 5 pound trigger must be done carefully. Anything that contacts the trigger on the way back under your jacket and into the holster can press the trigger, safety and all. So be sure you practice a clean re-holster too. Those who carry chamber empty have to be EVEN MORE aware of this potential goof, since they are used to handling the gun with chamber empty. After the gun has been fired, it becomes a different animal until you empty the chamber. Re-holstering is a key skill because the gun is only slightly more difficult to discharge than a cocked 1911 with a 5 pound trigger, if it catches on clothing.

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  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792
    edited November -1
    offeror has again brought up what I consider to be the only safety issue on a Glock. Reholstering a loaded gun is a point that is not often enough discussed and probably causes more ADs than anything else. IMHO safety is 95% operator headspace and 5% design.

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  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I keep one in my G17 All the time.

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  • MPinkstonMPinkston Member Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just keep your finger off the trigger til you are ready to shoot and everything will be fine.

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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    My duty carry was a model 22. The thing I hated was unchambering it evernight then rechambering it every day. Never liked the idea of the internal hammerspring being stressed all the time which would have been the case if I did not chamber/rechamber on a daily basis.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Never carry a Glock "Mexican-style." That is, inserted in the waistband behind the hip without a holster. Always carry your Glock in a holster that covers the trigger guard with stiff material, and keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot, and you can carry it loaded with no worries.

    PS: A gun with a loaded magazine and an empty chamber is NOT LOADED.

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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    David:
    "PS: A gun with a loaded magazine and an empty chamber is NOT LOADED."
    Is that Texas case law? 'Cause in Kalifornia if the ammo is within "reach, lunge, grasp" the gun is loaded.
    Realistically if there ain't one in the chamber, when the animal by-products dischage from the air circulating device, it doesn't do you much good.

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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I never ever carry a gun with an empty cylinder, strictly because I know that your more likely to get stabbed with a knife than shot with a gun, and it only takes a second and a half for a knife wielding individual to get from 12 feet away to your belly with the blade... Really... How fast can you draw your weapon? And then have to cock the slide? I dry fire train all the time drawing and shooting directly from the top of the holster, then moving up to an aimed position.

    There are plenty of tactical video's out there if you can't afford thunder ranch, and in my opinion if you plan to carry, you should also keep up with training and education.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    My definition of "loaded" is not a legal one, but a practical one.

    First you load a magazine. Then you charge the gun by inserting the magazine, but the gun isn't loaded until you cycle a round into the chamber.

    In Texas, a "readily dischargeable firearm" is one that has rounds in the magazine, whether or not a round is chambered. I don't necessarily agree with the legal definition.

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  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you do not have one chambered what is the point? If you are in a situation where you have to use it you most likely will not have to much time to chamber.

    If you will blame gun makers for every shooting then blame car maker for every car accident.
  • doomsknight62doomsknight62 Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm pretty confident in saying that a Glock will not go off unless the trigger is pulled. Some people, however, don't like Glock for concealed carry because it lacks an external safety. Well, you people are in luck.
    If you intend to carry your Glock with a round in the chamber, you've got to make sure that nothing anywhere NEAR your body could potentially actuate that trigger. I would agree with the others on getting a holster that covers the trigger guard- most definitely. And take classes, too. It couldn't hurt, and who knows, maybe you could make new friends.
    One more thing- there's a company that has created a product called
    Saf-T-Block ( it might have an E in 'safe' ) which fits behind the trigger to keep it from moving back in the event of a snag. Of course, you have to eject this block before you fire, but it doesn't really add any time to the draw. I guess, though, it's just one more thing you could fumble with in a crisis situation. The only other drawback is the price. I can't recall exactly how much it was but I remember seeing it and thinking, " For that?!?!?!? "
    Personally, I like my HK with the hammer down and the safety on!

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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    Doomsknight...the Saf-T-Block is a good accessory to have, only draw back is that they don't make it for left handed shooters. I had one on my carry glock for a while until I lost it somewhere.

    the idea behind it is that as you draw the weapon from the holster, you push it out with your trigger finger and then you can fire. If it is in place, you can't pull the trigger at all.

    here is a picture of it
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