In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.

Did things go to far?

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
Steubenville, Ohio-AP -- A woman in Ohio is facing felony charges for allegedly letting her three children get severely sunburned.

The sheriff says the kids looked like they had been "dipped in red paint."

He says Eve Hibbits took her two-year-old daughter and ten-month-old twin boys to the Jefferson County Fair last week. Police pulled her aside when they noticed how red and burned the kids' faces were.

The kids had second-degree sunburns and were treated with cold compresses.

Hibbits faces three counts of child endangerment.

She remains behind bars, with bond set at 15-thousand dollars
· Share on FacebookShare on Twitter

Comments

  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote:Steubenville, Ohio-AP -- A woman in Ohio is facing felony charges for allegedly letting her three children get severely sunburned......



    Hibbits faces three counts of child endangerment.



    Maybe felonious stupidity but this is ridiculous!!!

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess they should have arrested my mother too. She would let me play outside and I would get sunburned pretty bad sometimes.

    If I knew then, what I know now.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is the same type of person who lets her kids cook in the car.......arrest her ignorant butt!

    Merc

    Stupidity is stupidity......you can't outlaw it. :(



    NO! You may not have my guns! Now go crawl back into your hole!

    ****************************************

    "Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do you think she did it on purpose ???

    I don't think so i know we have been out and before you know it some kids get real burnt....

    No one was there from here how can you judge a mother do you think she is smiling in jail?????

    Same as leaving them in the car to toast geez come on...

    Take a kid to have fun and you let them get burnt and go to jail like pickenup i guess turn my mother in for letting me and a brother and 2 sisters get burnt playing in the yard or on an outting

    JMHO

    Harleeman1030@aol.com

    Be quiet honey i know what i am doing ...
    !!!!!KaBOOM!!!!!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If she had left a pan of water boiling on the stove, and they dumped it on themselves, is that any different?

    2nd degree burns isn't much, but it is pretty clear that she is an idiot.

    Frankly, I'm tired of idiots. They need to be punished.

    Merc



    NO! You may not have my guns! Now go crawl back into your hole!

    ****************************************

    "Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dads-freeholddads-freehold Member Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greetings, yeah we have let it go to far..i agree with harlee' sun burnt is not roasting in a hot car. down in fla some days you can get a real burn in less than half an hour. try and tell your kids your going to the fair fer 30 min's. respt submitted dads-freehold

    if your going to be a savage, be a headhunter
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    She is/was and will be in the future, negligent. Sunscreen should have been used and re-applied as necessary. I have been burned, and it is not only painful, but at a young age like that, it increases the risk on skin cancer. She has ceratinly increased their risks with second degree burns. Like it or not, that is negligence. Since the children are dependent upon her for their well being and safety, how can it be anything but.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Merc i notice you say idiot a lot is everyone but you an idiot ????

    30 mins will do it sunscreen only does so much..

    Harleeman1030@aol.com

    Be quiet honey i know what i am doing ...
    !!!!!KaBOOM!!!!!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote: Frankly, I'm tired of idiots. They need to be punished.

    Does this belong in the thread on spanking???

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok i went and read the whole story she has been reported before so i would think once twice three times your gone is that not what a hard crimnal would get..but i still do not think she went out and done it on purpose she might just be a little slow????

    Harleeman1030@aol.com

    Be quiet honey i know what i am doing ...
    !!!!!KaBOOM!!!!!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sucsrcreen w/ a SPF of 45 will do it, it still needs to be applied and then re-applied as necessary. Hats are also a good idea. People do not seem to think of the sun and the damage it does untill it is too late. I know.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    Some people are allergic to sunscreen.... What this mother did is nowhere near what others have done leaving the kids in the car... A sunburn is not always evident until much later...

    Every parent should be charged with the same thing as she was, kids are allowed to play outside every day.... ooooooops.. we better put teachers in that category as well... charge them... charge any adult that allows children to play outside...Gone too far?... I think so..


    Lil' Stinker's Opinion
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Obviously you do not understand the implications of a second degree sunburn on young children or light skinned people. Since she was GOING TO BE OUTSIDE, COMMON KNOWLEDGE, OR HOW ABOUT COMMON SENSE, would lead one to put on sunscreen BEFORE going out. Common sense, a thing of the past, or maybe it is easier to say, she forgot. Gone too far, I THINK NOT. She is supposed to be responsible for their safety and well being, both now and hopefully later, but hey, she already pushed em out so her part must be done right. A young child is responsible for their own safety and upbringing, not the parents, right or wrong?

    edit for spelling

    Edited by - twins on 08/21/2002 05:13:31
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the kids were older, I'd be more inclined to support the woman. C'mon - 10 months? After there had been other complaints about her child care? Poor kid has no clue why his/her face hurts so bad. What competent parent exposes a child that young to so much sun they get second degree burns? None. It does seem like Big Brotherism, but when would she have taken care of them - when they had sun stroke or worse? Most of the time the state has no beeswax in the parent-child relationship, but then some people should not be allowed to have children, either.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would have to know all the facts before I say any thing.I recall several bad sunburns as a youngster-teen age YRS at the pool.And I was far from being Mistreated or neglected.I thank God for the Parenting I recieved.I also got my share of the old Hickory switch to.I guess that would be abuse today.I never got one I didnt deserve and deserved more than I got.

    Rugster


    Toujours Pret
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Actually the County officials and Fair promoters should be arrested for "reckless endangerment".

    They knew that the sun was going to be out; they knew people would be exposed to the sun; they didn't provide enough tented and awning areas so that people would be out of the sun!

    They are just trying to evade their responsibilities in this matter and trying to focus all the blame on the mother.

    Somebody get this lady a lawyer! She needs to file some lawsuits!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard an interview with the sheriff on the radio today. He said the mother is "a little slow" and he said Family and Children Services had run ins with her before. The father of the 3 kids was running a ride at the carnival and the mother was out there all day to be near the father. They asked the mother why she didn't use sunscreen and she said she didn't know what that is. The kids didn't have shirts on and no hats. The sheriff said mom has been in jail for 7 days and will get out today. Neither he nor the county attorney wants mom to get any more jail time. The sheriff said he thought 7 days in jail was a good "wake up call".

    "Not as deep as a well, or as wide as a church door, but it is enough."

    Edited by - allen griggs on 08/21/2002 14:10:44
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Harlee,
    No, not everyone is an idiot, but certainly a HUGE percentage of the population is.

    Come on............THINK here. The woman let BABIES get sunburned!

    Would you be so lenient if she had left them in the backyard by themselves and got burnt? No.....you wouldn't. You'd be up in arms about it.

    The woman is negligent, and a poor mother.


    There are PARENTS, and there are PEOPLE WITH KIDS. They aren't the same!

    Merc

    NO! You may not have my guns! Now go crawl back into your hole!

    ****************************************

    "Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • RubbertoeRubbertoe Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    Do you think she did it on purpose ???
    I don't think so i know we have been out and before you know it some kids get real burnt....


    Whether she did it on purpose, or it 'just happened' to the kids - either way, she is still responsible for her children. There is a thing called SUNBLOCK in these modern times that can prevent things like this. So, even if she didn't intend to let it happen - it is called NEGLECT when she allowed it to happen.

    quote:No one was there from here how can you judge a mother do you think she is smiling in jail?????

    She's probably not smiling because she is IN jail - not because of what she did to get there.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • RubbertoeRubbertoe Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    i still do not think she went out and done it on purpose she might just be a little slow????

    So, you are saying that any punishment requires intent by the guilty party? C'mon... Slow or not, I don't think there is any excuse for letting someone get away with something like this.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • RubbertoeRubbertoe Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    Some people are allergic to sunscreen.... What this mother did is nowhere near what others have done leaving the kids in the car... A sunburn is not always evident until much later...

    Well, since the arresting officer said that the kids looked like they had been 'dipped in red paint' - I'm guessing that it was pretty obvious there and then, that the kids were getting pretty toasty.

    Again - if she has mental problems, that would help the general public understand WHY she allowed it to happen, but it can't be excused because of that. If she's not able to take care of her kids sufficiently, perhaps they should worry more about taking custody of them, rather than putting her in jail.

    I guess putting her in jail takes care of two birds with one stone, though, heh. :)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    How many of you that have kids have had them get sunburned?...or tripped over something in the yard?.. fallen out of a tree house?... fallen in the house?...Where you neglecting the kids when it happened?..

    My daughter is allergic to sunscreen, and yes, she has been burned...and I understand the implications of burns more than most.. I have worked in hospitals all my life.. including the ER and Cancer Clinics..




    Lil' Stinker's Opinion
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    With the way things are today, I think she should get a really good lawyer and sue the automotive industry for contaminating the atmosphere with so many contaminants that the ozone layer has been depleted, enough to burn her children without the use of SPF protection. Watch, some lawyer probably already thought of this.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sue the sun!
    Who in the hell let the sun out without the saftey on?
    I think the sun should have a sun-beam lock on it so kids won't get hurt!
    Maybe she didn't read the "parental advisory" label on the sun.
    Was this in the south? Great, more rednecks!


    Yea, we heard all about this today!

    Got Guns? (and sunblock!)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey rubbertoe i hope the people around you are as unforgiven when you do something


    Just me 1 cents lol

    Harleeman1030@aol.com

    Be quiet honey i know what i am doing ...
    !!!!!KaBOOM!!!!!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • lokdok1lokdok1 Member Posts: 383 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It seems that there is more than one breed of parent.I remember the ones that reminded you "It's time to come in and get a sweater on" or"sit up straight, don't slouch","dont run with that pencil!" "make sure you hold your brothers hand crossing the street" "put some of this bug repelant on" "don't sit so close to the TV" etc. I guess there are some parents who don't. No big deal, right?

    Bartman
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • RubbertoeRubbertoe Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okay, how about this... what if someone was babysitting your three kids, and they took them to the fair and let them get burnt to a crisp, with 2nd degree burns on their faces? You wouldn't be mad? You wouldn't want to take some action? You don't think that is neglectful? I hope you folks don't have kids.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Harleeman1030Harleeman1030 Member Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rubbertoe i have 2 seven year old and a four year old..We go to disney twice a year .....Florida where i live has some sun man let me tell you...No i would not get mad at a babysitter thats the worst thing to do..i do not get mad very quick.....It's very easy to let a child get burnt...Where do you live do you have any children ?????




    Harleeman1030@aol.com

    Be quiet honey i know what i am doing ...
    !!!!!KaBOOM!!!!!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
Sign In or Register to comment.