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Firing from inside a car

Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
No, not like these guys...

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In the event that you had to defend yourself while sitting in a vehicle (in a carjacking, for example) what would be your choice of weapon, and why?

Revolver vs auto? I think the side-blast (I have no idea if that is the correct term or not) from a revolver next to your face might be a good reason to eliminate wheelguns from the mix.

What if you had to shoot through glass (windows or windshield)...would you want something smaller, like a 9mm for better penetration, or something bigger like a .45 for less deflection in the shot?

Yeah, I'm very bored today....[:)]

Comments

  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shouldn't he be holding that gun sideways [?]

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    If I am in a car, the car IS the weapon.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    This topic makes a good argument for vehicle mounted armaments.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any firearm would be better than none, if you had to return fire.[;)]





    The guy in the pic must have a set of sights on his wrists, cause that's what he's aiming with.[:D]
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    a nice revolver in 357 is hard to beat in that situation, the blast out of the cylinder gap is the last thing you are going to worry about, but the performance of the 357 will never let you down
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
    a nice revolver in 357 is hard to beat in that situation...Yep, for me it's a 357 Colt Trooper with a 4 inch barrel. I don't leave home without it!!!! [:D]

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
    a nice revolver in 357 is hard to beat in that situation, the blast out of the cylinder gap is the last thing you are going to worry about, but the performance of the 357 will never let you down


    Recoil and blast/sound would be the last things I'd be last things I'd worry about, but the potential of losing my eyesight is another matter entirely.

    To be fair, I have no idea how likely it is that it could occur in a circumstance like that.

    Maybe someone more familiar with how dangerous the cylinder blast is could chime in.


    To your other point......its pretty hard to beat the .357
  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,191 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    12 GA goose gun
    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whatever I have at hand. I have a Charter Arms Bulldog 44 in my truck, and know that if I have to use it inside, I can kiss what is left of my hearing goodbye. A semi is going to sling hot brass all over the place on top of the noise, possibly hitting you or a passenger in the face/eye.
    I was in a car when a 38 spl was accidently fired into the floor. All of us had ears ringing for 2-3 days, and I'm NOT looking forward to a repeat.
  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The word(s) you are looking for is CONCUSSION or CONCUSSIVE shock wave.

    I've found that a Squad of Marines is a good deterrent for car jacking/muggings/etc, but they are hard to fit in the Minivan.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
    The word(s) you are looking for is CONCUSSION or CONCUSSIVE shock wave.


    Concussion implies a sound or shock wave (I'm really getting out of my depth with this stuff though, so go easy on me).

    What I'm talking about is the hot gas and particles that escape through the cylinder gap in a revolver.

    This isn't the most "scientific" of tests, but the video was an eye-opener for me. I don't want that cylinder anywhere near my face

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_TNvPhTiB8
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
    quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
    a nice revolver in 357 is hard to beat in that situation...Yep, for me it's a 357 Colt Trooper with a 4 inch barrel. I don't leave home without it!!!! [:D]


    With a cross draw holster set-up.... Let the GOBLINS beware!!![;)]
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,084 ******
    edited November -1
    .40 caliber SIG P229, because that is what I always have with me.

    But, I doubt I would try to shoot through the windshield. If the windshield is between me and my antagonist...well, a 5,000 pounds, even at 10-20 mph, has a lot more energy than any handgun bullet!

    If the armed guy is in front of my vehicle, and I can't drive forward, reverse is an option. If I can't go either direction, I might shoot the windshield, but I would probably go for shooting outside the side window. If I had to shoot through the windshield, I would be seriously concerned about having glass shards blown into my eyes.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have done it at several matches, starting with hands on the wheel, gun in a briefcase, perp standing outside the passenger door, then exit the car and engage more targets

    and then to watch it done over and over from outside the car is something to experience, even with the windows down it is not very loud, but inside it is not as bad as you think, of course even wearing hearing protection the shock wave is dulled by i guess the material inside the car


    leaning out the car like that does nothing but give away a loud report, and make your shooting stance very unstable, its amazing they ever hit a target, thats why so many innocents get hit
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maneuvering a full size service pistol from behind the wheel is tough. Try it.
    A Chief size revolver or small auto is probably easier and faster to draw and get into action.
    On the other hand if you expect to have to deal with metal or glass, a 357 Mag 4" or 357 Sig makes more sense.
    It might also make sense to have ear plugs with the floating ball, allowing you to hear but blocking loud sounds. You might not lose your hearing with those.
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grdad45
    Whatever I have at hand. I have a Charter Arms Bulldog 44 in my truck, and know that if I have to use it inside, I can kiss what is left of my hearing goodbye. A semi is going to sling hot brass all over the place on top of the noise, possibly hitting you or a passenger in the face/eye.
    I was in a car when a 38 spl was accidently fired into the floor. All of us had ears ringing for 2-3 days, and I'm NOT looking forward to a repeat.


    Actually, I did that once when I was young. If you fire that bulldog in a vehicle, make sure the barrel protrudes past the window. Trust me on this one. Huh?????
  • victorj19victorj19 Member Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can relate to firing a gun in a nearly closed space. I was the brightest when I was 16. Dad built a new outhouse using a steel drum underneath. He didn't realize it until after it was cemented in place and the structure was up. He came into the cabin disgusted and told me to go blast some holes in it. I brought my new/used 16ga double and some slug loads. You guessed it. I dutifully went out, stood on the seat and let loose with both barrels at once. I never heard of hearing protection before. Couldn't hear much for 3 days. I'm nearing 60 now and saying "what" and "huh" more and more.

    Wouldn't hesitate shooting while in a car if my life is threatened.
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by searcher5
    quote:Originally posted by grdad45
    Whatever I have at hand. I have a Charter Arms Bulldog 44 in my truck, and know that if I have to use it inside, I can kiss what is left of my hearing goodbye. A semi is going to sling hot brass all over the place on top of the noise, possibly hitting you or a passenger in the face/eye.
    I was in a car when a 38 spl was accidently fired into the floor. All of us had ears ringing for 2-3 days, and I'm NOT looking forward to a repeat.


    Actually, I did that once when I was young. If you fire that bulldog in a vehicle, make sure the barrel protrudes past the window. Trust me on this one. Huh?????




    Did that a few times with a .45 and yes it's very loud.
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