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M1A Socom
redhead71
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the m1a socom just how accurate are they? thinking about buying one to shoot 300 yds and in?
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I have the Socom 16 and I hit pretty much everything that I aim at with the iron sights.
what are you aiming at, and what distance ?
i have been asking that question since they cam out, apparently 2 moa is acceptable to most
Seen a few show up at the range and everyone that owns one is disappointed. If you don't mind 6" groups @ 100yds with match ammunition, they are OK.
quote:Originally posted by wiplash
I have the Socom 16 and I hit pretty much everything that I aim at with the iron sights.
what are you aiming at, and what distance ?
At 100 yds I can hit a 10 inch steal dinger pretty consistently standing offhand. At 200 yds and on out, I have to take a knee or brace up against something for the same effect.
It was designed to be a close quarters shock and awe Gun and not a long range shooter.
Check out the M14forum for info on the socom16. They can be made to shoot, it has been done. The factory front sight it much to wide for accuracy, but can be replaced with a usgi front sight, or better yet a NM front sight - much thinner than the factory front sight.
Wow, must be some sight! My standard grade M1A came with a NM front sight. I put on a NM rear aperture, and am trying to figure out how to thin the front sight blade down by half. The NM sight is still way way too wide at 1/16".
Is there an "out of the box" M1A made to shoot long distance? Two rifles I want to add to my safe are the M1A and AR10 but I want 500+ yard guns.
I have the loaded model. It has the SA gen 3 scope mount on it and Leopold varyX II in 4-14x40. And some cheap cheak rest that straps on the stock. longest distance I've shot it is out to 400 yards. But I was hitting milk jugs pretty reliable and misses were close enough to still take out a deer at that distance.
I went hunting with it once and at about 175 yds I was able to shoot a small buck in the head. Deer was looking twords me and the bullet went in just below its left eye and came out through the spine at the back of the head.
I think that with the sadlak scope mount and a better stock to get a better cheek weld it would be even better. I've been hesitant to get one but I think if I get a decent tax return I'm going to be ordering one of the promag archangel stocks for it.
If you follow primary arms on Instagram they have a short video back about 100 posts shooting a group at 500yds. This is a different video shooting steel at 600yds.
yes i know why it was designed, but in reality there is no reason why cutting off 5.75" of barrel to 16.25" should lead to such horrible performance for that kind of cash, m1's are known for their accuracy , i cannot help but think many purchase them for the best of both worlds only to be disappointed
i cannot imagine firing a .308 inside an enclosed room , a 5.56 is bad enough
i am glad you enjoy yours
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Is there an "out of the box" M1A made to shoot long distance? Two rifles I want to add to my safe are the M1A and AR10 but I want 500+ yard guns.
Several of our range group own both M1As and AR10/LR308. On occasions we bring both and see who can outshoot who. Every one does better with their AR10s. 7 locking lugs on the AR10 makes a big difference.
I have always felt the M1As were over rated. Aside from accuracy issues all of us experience double fires periodically. For the long shots, go with an AR10/LR308.
quote:It was designed to be a close quarters shock and awe Gun and not a long range shooter.
yes i know why it was designed, but in reality there is no reason why cutting off 5.75" of barrel to 16.25" should lead to such horrible performance for that kind of cash, m1's are known for their accuracy , i cannot help but think many purchase them for the best of both worlds only to be disappointed
i cannot imagine firing a .308 inside an enclosed room , a 5.56 is bad enough
i am glad you enjoy yours
You should probably sell yours then.
If you couldn't imagine shooting a 308 in an enclosed room, how did any of our GI's shoot 30.06s while street fighting in WWII survive? Did they find a safe place afterwords?
Is there an "out of the box" M1A made to shoot long distance? Two rifles I want to add to my safe are the M1A and AR10 but I want 500+ yard guns.
With some adjustments to the Iron Sights I was hitting steel at 700yds with my full size M1A.
The local long distance range shut down. So haven't been able to stretch the legs of my Scout.
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:It was designed to be a close quarters shock and awe Gun and not a long range shooter.
yes i know why it was designed, but in reality there is no reason why cutting off 5.75" of barrel to 16.25" should lead to such horrible performance for that kind of cash, m1's are known for their accuracy , i cannot help but think many purchase them for the best of both worlds only to be disappointed
i cannot imagine firing a .308 inside an enclosed room , a 5.56 is bad enough
i am glad you enjoy yours
You should probably sell yours then.
If you couldn't imagine shooting a 308 in an enclosed room, how did any of our GI's shoot 30.06s while street fighting in WWII survive? Did they find a safe place afterwords?
that was not their intentional design ether, doing it out of necessity is completely different
Although this is not a Socom it is very similar. This rifle pictured belongs to one of the members here and I can never remember who. This rifle is now at the top of my list. The only problem is finding one at a reasonable price.
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Couldn't see the picture earlier but that one's mine.
Note if you go with the Fulton Armory Scout, they offer an 18.5 inch barrel that allows you to use a flash hider with bayonet lug.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/fultonarmoryusriflecal762mmm14-1-1-1-3.aspx
The Springfield M1A Scout's 18 inch barrel prevents the use of the bayonet lug as it makes removing the gas piston a Pita.
quote:Originally posted by armilite
Although this is not a Socom it is very similar. This rifle pictured belongs to one of the members here and I can never remember who. This rifle is now at the top of my list. The only problem is finding one at a reasonable price.
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Couldn't see the picture earlier but that one's mine.
Note if you go with the Fulton Armory Scout, they offer an 18.5 inch barrel that allows you to use a flash hider with bayonet lug.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/fultonarmoryusriflecal762mmm14-1-1-1-3.aspx
The Springfield M1A Scout's 18 inch barrel prevents the use of the bayonet lug as it makes removing the gas piston a Pita.
Thanks Drobs but at over $3 grand I don't see it happening.