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Running out of room to store oil

beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
The Associated Press - By By JONATHAN FAHEY - AP Energy Writer
19 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) - The U.S. has so much crude that it is running out of places to put it, and that could drive oil and gasoline prices even lower in the coming months.

For the past seven weeks, the United States has been producing and importing an average of 1 million more barrels of oil every day than it is consuming. That extra crude is flowing into storage tanks, especially at the country's main trading hub in Cushing, Oklahoma, pushing U.S. supplies to their highest point in at least 80 years, the Energy Department reported last week.

If this keeps up, storage tanks could approach their operational limits, known in the industry as "tank tops," by mid-April and send the price of crude - and probably gasoline, too - plummeting.

"The fact of the matter is we are running out of storage capacity in the U.S.," Ed Morse, head of commodities research at Citibank, said at a recent symposium at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

Morse has suggested oil could fall all the way to $20 a barrel from the current $50. At that rock-bottom price, oil companies, faced with mounting losses, would stop pumping oil until the glut eased. Gasoline prices would fall along with crude, though lower refinery production, because of seasonal factors and unexpected outages, could prevent a sharp decline.

The national average price of gasoline is $2.44 a gallon. That's $1.02 cheaper than last year at this time, but up 37 cents over the past month.

Other analysts agree that crude is poised to fall sharply - if not all the way to $20 - because it continues to flood into storage for a number of reasons:

- U.S. oil production continues to rise. Companies are cutting back on new drilling, but that won't reduce supplies until later this year.
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  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They can store all the processed oil as gasoline they want in my vehicles and I'll keep bring them back in for more once a week or so.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well you wouldn't want any cheap gas...all the time we had grossly expensive gasoline we kept on exporting it ...website i found showed the daily gallons/barrels of export oil and the amount was impressive ...poor policy ..instead of conserving it for our own future use
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Continue pumping enough to keep tank farms topped off. Put the excess into an expansion of our crude reserves.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840

    Does this mean the federal oil reserves are at full capacity now?

    During the fuel shortage back in the mid 80's (?) the feds released oil from the Fed reserves or was reported they did to ease the fuel shortages back then. [?]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve_(United_States)

    If you can believe Wikipedia, the SPR is 95% full right now.

    This is a military reserve by design, as at capacity it would only handle U.S. oil needs for 1-1/2 months or so.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    So expand the strategic reserve in capacity and purpose. Add the purpose of national economic resource security.
  • RadarRadar Member Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got some cans they can fill.[:D]
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    So expand the strategic reserve in capacity and purpose. Add the purpose of national economic resource security.


    Why?

    Is this the roll of the Federal Government? Do we really want to give the Federal Government the power to control and manipulate the price of oil?

    Don't really see an upside here.

    Keeping the military functioning in a time of crisis is the proper roll of the Federal Government and a proper use of Federal Funds.

    Stockpiling consumer goods is not, IMO, a proper use of Federal Funds.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    So expand the strategic reserve in capacity and purpose. Add the purpose of national economic resource security.


    Why?

    Is this the roll of the Federal Government? Do we really want to give the Federal Government the power to control and manipulate the price of oil?

    Don't really see an upside here.

    Keeping the military functioning in a time of crisis is the proper roll of the Federal Government and a proper use of Federal Funds.

    Stockpiling consumer goods is not, IMO, a proper use of Federal Funds.


    Well, if the US would actually convert to an oil standard currency it might make sense in that respect.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Learn something new everyday. Didn't realize Cushing was the largest oil storage facility in the U.S.

    To see how big it is,, with photos:
    http://www.energyindustryphotos.com/largest_oil_storage_facility_in.htm
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    So expand the strategic reserve in capacity and purpose. Add the purpose of national economic resource security.


    Why?

    Is this the roll of the Federal Government? Do we really want to give the Federal Government the power to control and manipulate the price of oil?

    Don't really see an upside here.

    Keeping the military functioning in a time of crisis is the proper roll of the Federal Government and a proper use of Federal Funds.

    Stockpiling consumer goods is not, IMO, a proper use of Federal Funds.


    Well, if the US would actually convert to an oil standard currency it might make sense in that respect.


    Trying to picture what a cash register would look like.[:)]
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    So expand the strategic reserve in capacity and purpose. Add the purpose of national economic resource security.


    Why?

    Is this the roll of the Federal Government? Do we really want to give the Federal Government the power to control and manipulate the price of oil?

    Don't really see an upside here.

    Keeping the military functioning in a time of crisis is the proper roll of the Federal Government and a proper use of Federal Funds.

    Stockpiling consumer goods is not, IMO, a proper use of Federal Funds.


    Well, if the US would actually convert to an oil standard currency it might make sense in that respect.


    Trying to picture what a cash register would look like.[:)]
    Oil standard = Oil backed. And so the circulated currency would remain (largely) as is, but would instead retain value and have merit.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's a lot of oil.
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