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Ammo Question

idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
After reading the post by poisoned , i got to thinking, Does ammo go bad after so much time has passed?

"Keep turnin to the RIGHT"
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Know this is a loaded question but would like opinions on best ammo for the extreamly accurate(ha)SKS and the best place to buy it. Thanks[:D]
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anyone else have ammo for guns they do not own and do not intend to own? I looked through my ammo chest this evening and discovered I have .270 Win, .280 Rem, 6.5x55 Swede, 7mm-08, 7x57 Mauser just to name a few. I was astonished at this.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Took some Winchester 357 in on trade and wondered what it is called. It has a very bright silver hollow point bullet with about 6 small slits in the end at the hollow point. Seems to have a lot of punch judging by the recoil. The bullets are bright enough to be chrome plated.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Has anyone shot Federal Power Shok 170gr soft point 30-30?

    Is it any good?

    I just bought 3 boxes at walmart at $9.84 per box and with the way ammo prices are going I may deside to buy more.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If Armor Piercing Ammo pierces armor, and Armor Piercing Incendiary Ammo pierces armor and burns, what does Corrosive Ammo do?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bear with me here. If it sounds like a dumb question it's only because I'm trying to learn. And despite that, I realize it may still be dumb.[;)][:)]

    Is all self-defense ammo supposed to be a hollow point of some kind? And by that same token, are all TMJ or FMJ or LRN rounds strictly for target and practice?

    The price difference is considerable and I'm curious to learn if non-hollow points might be effective for self-defense as well. Although I doubt it, I figured I'd still ask to be sure.

    Thanks.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    with the falling value of just about everything in todays economy. and with base components dropping in value like copper(scrap was 3.33 now about a buck) who thinks the price of ammo will go down too? or do you think fear of obama and his future bans will keep prices sky rocketing?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have started collecting ammo for around 1 year. I mostly have things that I have bought. The nice people on the site have been sending me some ammo to add to my collection. The thing I have noticed, is that military ammo is not marked with the caliber on the headstamp. Most of the ammo I have, has the caliber on it, so I know what it is. I'm new at this, and can't tell a 30-06 from a 8mm, just by site. I was just wondering why this is?. Are, or where there any nato, or other rules on this? Why do some shells have the caliber, and some not, only the date?

    Rameleni1
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ammo question.


    I have ordered some 9mm largo ammo for my pistol; however when it arrived the other day, I found they insted sent me 9x21 IMI ammo.


    Can the 9x21 IMI ammo be used in my star largo pistol?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The last time I went to a gunshow, they had some 12 gauge ammo that looked to be about 2" in length. It was supposed to serve some tactical purpose, allowing a higher capacity. I was looking for it, and I just can't find it. Do yall know what I'm talking about?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bulk 9mm Luger Ammunition - 115-Grain Full-Metal-Jacket 1200 rounds $211.99

    Bulk 9mm Luger Ammunition - 125-Grain Round-Nose Lead 1200 rounds $171.99

    What would you get?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I never got into the "Black Talon" ammo craze. As a matter of fact, I don't see why someone would plunk down a fortune for a box of it at a gun show but I see it all the time. People are ooooing and ahhhing over it.However, I have a question that stems from curiosity. I have seen two types of ammo that came after Black talon was discontinued.One is the Winchester SXT and then the Winchester Law Enforcement Ranger SXT. What is the difference?To clarify, I am currious about the differences between the following: http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=2986160 http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=2961916 http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product.asp?dept_id=201020&sku=67588&imgid=&mscssid=0J35HXK68HRK8GMVDHRKJ9EDAXNH72A5 [This message has been edited by idsman75 (edited 01-28-2002).]
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anybody hear of 9mm Largo?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So last night after my Dicks episode I was talking to a few buddies about ammo laws. Where I live you need to be 18 to buy rifle and shotgun ammo and 21 to buy handgun ammo. So the question arose as to ammo that fits both. There are lever action 357/38's and there are Judges which hold 410's as well as pistol AR's. Apparently there are some towns that will not sell interchangeable ammo to any one under 21. Guess I never really thought of it that way. Thoughts?

    Todd
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...I have a box of Remington 458 win mag,510 gr.hollow point...I have never sold any ammo on line.Is there any special thing I have to do in order to sell them...???Thanks Guys..
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking for some cheaper .308 ammo for 'blasting.'

    Question 1: Military surplus .308 that comes in linked metal belts - how easy is it to get the rounds out of the belts for use in a non-belt fed weapon?

    Question 2: Perhaps a dumb question. Can NATO 7.61x51mm be used in bolt action .308 rifles?

    Thanks!
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is the 40 cal and 10 mm the same size cartridge or is there a difference ? If so what might the difference be ? Thank you for any info regarding my question.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought a lot of 30 06 ammo and have a question about reloading after useing. Some of it is marked on the box

    20 cartridges
    ball
    caliber .30 ANM2
    lot W.R.A.
    winchester-western division
    olin mathieson chemical corporation
    new haven conn. usa

    My question is when I reload do I have to do anything to case other than reload ( Special differents in primmer ect.)

    The rest is reg. factory 30 06 so no problem with it.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are the pro's and con's of reloads verses factory loads? ONe man i know reloads his own and will cuss any factory load available. I have shot factory loads all my life and i guess i have had pretty good luck with them. I have never shot reloads before so i dont have any comparison to judge for myself.

    Dustin K. Griffin
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Got my first AR-15 the other day and I'm looking to buy some ammo. Anyone know the best deal for 500 rounds around?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was just replacing some .357 rounds in my wife's bedside speed loaders and I found one round that has a weird primer. The primer is indented, kind of like it is once it's fired. But, the primer is not all-metal. Instead, there appears to be a piece of metal shaped like a three-leaf clover and there is some dark brown material behind it. I've never seen anything like it, but I'm assuming I shouldn't try to use it. The ammo is Winchester "Personal Protection" 110Gr. JHP.Anybody have any idea what happened to this cartridge?Thanks,G36
    Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have a rifle that shoots remington 7mm mag ammo, what is differnece in remington 7mm ultra mag ammo and will my rifle shoot both or should i only shoot the 7mm mag.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i just won an auction for a mak pa-63.

    what ammo would you guys recommend for it?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone know if Ultramax is ok ammo? I've heard horror stories about some ammo and don't want to get 500 rounds of useless junk.

    http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=323015
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ballistically what is this ammo similar to?

    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=124798273
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone know where i can get ammo CHEAP? I dont care what brand, I prefer non corrosive, but i spose corrosive will work, ill just clean it really well.

    7.62x39 is the caliber, Cubslover showed me a sight where i can get a box of 20 for like 3.60 Wolf brand non corrosive or brown bear for 3.50 (thats what i currently shoot) and i think its corrosive.

    Anyone know a site? My gunshop wants nearly 5 dollars for 1 box of some brand ive never heard of corrosive ammo, 20 rounds.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    can anyone tell me anything about this can?
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    anyone ever use this white tip stuff. it is cheap, but is it any good?

    http://www.ammoman.com/images/CZK-3.jpg

    It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Speer 380 90gr HP and it looks good and hits hard but on the box it says Not for LE use Not to be repackaged and Practice ammo. Nickle case and Speer marking by the primer. It was packaged in bulk 250 rds and seems funny it's listed as practice ammo. Shot some and has a strong felt recoil.

    What is it and why listed as stated above
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IS 308 AND 7.62X51MM THE SAME

    THEY KEEP TELLING ME THEY ARE THE SAME
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Need some input on surplus battle packs.

    From Austrailian Defence Ind.

    If anybody has used this brand


    Thanks.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Weekend before last, i tool my .45 out shooting, and when i was putting some corbon, through my gun, it looked like there was some sparks or something shooting out of my gun. Not a lot but a few bright sparks shooting out. What was that?!?


    Dave
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is this stuff corrosive? Is it worth a dern for plinking?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195972736
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  • RUGERNUT3RUGERNUT3 Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IDS..... dont know about the latter two you mentioned....but the Talon is in apperance some bad mojo if on the receiving end what with those expanded "fish hooks"! Dont EVERwant to know if it works like it appears it would! I have seen with my own two little eyes what the the Federal Extreme (PREMIUM?)will do...and it is NASTY. With all the serrations in the nose..it had a near PERFECTequal in size exspansion of nice little "fish hooks"..with NO fragmentation, NASTY. Not the "hooks" the talon had but..very evil looking..keep several loaded in both my carry guns...I say "several" because I stagger each of my mags with glazergrey tip/FMJ..HYDROS and those...my quirky thought for different scenerios which may present themselves...concern for bystanders/richochet..penetration of "hard"cover..and terminal penetration...
    "ANY" EXCUSE IS A GOOD REASON TO BUY "JUST 1 MORE".& VICIE-VERSIE!
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  • pops401pops401 Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rugernut3, you may want to reconcider your last 2 words. Sounds terrorist.
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  • reb8600reb8600 Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a box of ranger sxt 127 gr +P+ that is 9mm. I only paid $18 for at a gun show [should have got more]. They are black and look like the black talon. My understanding is that these are the same as the black talon, they just changed the name. I am going to buy more at the nest gun show.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    RUGERNUT3, You think like I do, In my mags are 8 Black Talons & 7 Hydro-Shocks alternatively.Winchester voluntarily took Black Talons off the market to the General Public because off all the flack they were getting. Then repackaged marked Law Enforcment only. The thing about the Black Talon is the shards are so sharp they were known to cut through three pairs of surgeons gloves. So doctors were overly careful when taking them out for fear of AIDS.
    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
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