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Presidential requirements?

RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Years ago a black person and women were not allowed to vote.
What Amendment or law has made it possible for one of these to run for President of the United States today?
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  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Constitution only says you have to be a natural-born US citizen and over the age of 35. No amendment necessary for sex or race.
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by callktulu
    The Constitution only says you have to be a natural-born US citizen and over the age of 35. No amendment necessary for sex or race.

    You also need two years of college too, but that's not written in the requirements section.
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  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What about this?

    CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?
    It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason:
    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986. Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.

    US Law very clearly stipulates: "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after*. In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time. His mother would have to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.


    *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. election law. I think the Gov. of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence.

    Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.
  • callktulucallktulu Member Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grdad45
    Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.




    I doubt it. The media wants him to be president so bad, this will get buried assuming it's all true.
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know a man born in Canada who came here to attend college. He wanted to stay. So he applied for U.S. citizenship. His mother informed him that she was an American who had moved to Canada before he was born (this would have been around 1964 or so). He never knew his mother wasn't Canadian.

    The feds said that having one citizen parent was all it took. He is a natural born citizen even though he was born in Canada and his mother had been out of the country for over 40 years.

    This business about Obama or McCain not be eligible is hokey.
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  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey, I didn't represent it to be true. Just thought it was an interesting angle.[:)]
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
    Years ago a black person and women were not allowed to vote.
    What Amendment or law has made it possible for one of these to run for President of the United States today?



    Fourteenth & nineteenth Amendments.
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Amendment 15 - Race No Bar to Vote. Ratified 2/3/1870. History

    1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

    2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

    Amendment 19 - Women's Suffrage. Ratified 8/18/1920. History

    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

    Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

    ****************************************************************
    This gives black men and women the right to vote, it doesn't say anything about holding the Office of President.

    It's just seems logical that if the Founding Fathers didn't believe the blacks and women should have the right to vote in 1781 they also didn't think they could hold office.
    I sincerely doubt that they were giving them the right to hold the highest office in the land at the time they were giving them the right to vote.
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