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SHTF body Armor?
Waco Waltz
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Any preppers here own some serious body armor? I always thought it was just too much money but I can see we will lose what we don't spend.
I think the crash will come just as soon as they get all the laws passed they want and I think they only have one or two more to go.
I think the crash will come just as soon as they get all the laws passed they want and I think they only have one or two more to go.
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Any preppers here own some serious body armor? I always thought it was just too much money but I can see we will lose what we don't spend.
I think the crash will come just as soon as they get all the laws passed they want and I think they only have one or two more to go.
I wear a class III kevlar vest. I'd like to get a few more and a plate carrier for some ceramic plates. It isn't just for a SHTF situation it is for everyday protection.
I wear a class III kevlar vest. I'd like to get a few more and a plate carrier for some ceramic plates. It isn't just for a SHTF situation it is for everyday protection.
Where do you live, Mogadishu?
I believe he lives on sesame street. This guy is a nut job.
More ad hominem attacks, how original.
quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
I believe he lives on sesame street. This guy is a nut job.
More ad hominem attacks, how original.
Isn't it a shame that one can cover himself in enough armor to defeat a volley of automatic rifle fire, but still must endure the verbal slings and arrows of his contemporaries?
quote:Originally posted by kwikrnu
quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
I believe he lives on sesame street. This guy is a nut job.
More ad hominem attacks, how original.
Isn't it a shame that one can cover himself in enough armor to defeat a volley of automatic rifle fire, but still must endure the verbal slings and arrows of his contemporaries?
You have not added anything to the discussion except ad hominems. Did you read the posting guidlines? "In general we expect everyone to act like adults and to show respect for each other, just as you would if the other parties were guests in your home."
Also, will you guys knock it off with the fancy words, I'm tired of googling these dnag words just to find out that half the time the person using the word is using it wrong.
If you plan on storing some for SHTF, you should know that.
quote:Originally posted by kwikrnu
I wear a class III kevlar vest. I'd like to get a few more and a plate carrier for some ceramic plates. It isn't just for a SHTF situation it is for everyday protection.
Where do you live, Mogadishu?
[:D][:D]
I say let the Preppers weigh themselves down with 4 guns, 300 rounds of ammo, and body armor. They won't be able to run as fast when we run out of ammo and need to get theirs. [:D]
quote:Originally posted by kwikrnu
quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
I believe he lives on sesame street. This guy is a nut job.
More ad hominem attacks, how original.
Isn't it a shame that one can cover himself in enough armor to defeat a volley of automatic rifle fire, but still must endure the verbal slings and arrows of his contemporaries?
Good one.
quote:Originally posted by kwikrnu
quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
I believe he lives on sesame street. This guy is a nut job.
More ad hominem attacks, how original.
Isn't it a shame that one can cover himself in enough armor to defeat a volley of automatic rifle fire, but still must endure the verbal slings and arrows of his contemporaries?
Nursing is a dangerous occupation....
Don
Oh well. It served it's purpose.
That 5-year expiration life is a result of the manufacturers covering their butts.
Actual use is what compromises the material itself. Sweat, body heat and movement, degrades it.
A protective vest, properly stored, and not used, will last a lot longer than 5 years.There it is.
It's simply that Dupont won't warranty the ballistic material beyond 5 years because they have no control over conditions it'll be exposed to, not that it somehow degrades due only to time.
I'm aware of controlled testing using good condition 10 year old, used soft body armor against NIB stuff. It worked just as well, with the older armor sometimes even outperforming the new.
A big rule - no matter what the armor's age - is if you see darker areas on the material through the panel's carrier. It's an indication of mold, which DOES seriously degrade the material's properties.
Both of my still NIB vests, are stored in their original packaging / box, and stored lying flat, and no way are the vests exposed to any sunlight.
High humidity conditions are also very hard on the materials, which can lead to mold issues. [xx(]
Dano keeps vests like he keeps his women, taped up and in the dark [:p]
High humidity conditions are also very hard on the materials, which can lead to mold issues. [xx(]Which is why the ballistic panels themselves are sealed in envelopes on any quality, modern armor.
Any tears/holes in it can lead to issues from rain or sweat.
quote:Originally posted by BTDT
Both of my still NIB vests, are stored in their original packaging / box, and stored lying flat, and no way are the vests exposed to any sunlight.
High humidity conditions are also very hard on the materials, which can lead to mold issues. [xx(]
Nice.[:D][:D][:D]
Dano keeps vests like he keeps his women, taped up and in the dark [:p]
Little did I understand until after we were out of the Army, his looks and mannerisms, as well as his use of flashy and expensive things like his motorcycle, sometimes leads people to think he is an easy mark. Although he hasn't told me of any situation where his body armor took any hits, he has had to use handguns and knives to defend himself in seemingly ordinary neighborhoods. Once right in front of me. I was unarmed.
So my opinion is that if you need a handgun to defend yourself, you probably would do well to have some armor under your shirt. It also has a slimming effect if that's what you need.
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by kwikrnu
quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
I believe he lives on sesame street. This guy is a nut job.
More ad hominem attacks, how original.
Isn't it a shame that one can cover himself in enough armor to defeat a volley of automatic rifle fire, but still must endure the verbal slings and arrows of his contemporaries?
Nursing is a dangerous occupation....
Don
quote:Originally posted by buckstar
I have a friend who wears body armor all the time. You can't tell it's there under a typical shirt. He looks a bit like that preppy guy named Carlton from the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air show... and that was his nickname in the Army.
Little did I understand until after we were out of the Army, his looks and mannerisms, as well as his use of flashy and expensive things like his motorcycle, sometimes leads people to think he is an easy mark. Although he hasn't told me of any situation where his body armor took any hits, he has had to use handguns and knives to defend himself in seemingly ordinary neighborhoods. Once right in front of me. I was unarmed.
So my opinion is that if you need a handgun to defend yourself, you probably would do well to have some armor under your shirt. It also has a slimming effect if that's what you need.
Maybe a better class of friend might be in order.
He sounds like a poop magnet to me.
He doesn't start the poop, nor does he elevate it with poorly chosen actions. He stands perfectly straight, calls all women ma-am, says please and thank you, doesn't cuss in public. He just looks out of place behaving formal in casual situations... if that makes any sense. Like a businessman from a nicer neighborhood in a more typical blue collar neighborhood.
If that is a "poop magnet" then it is for the right reasons and not because he's causing trouble.
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by BTDT
Both of my still NIB vests, are stored in their original packaging / box, and stored lying flat, and no way are the vests exposed to any sunlight.
High humidity conditions are also very hard on the materials, which can lead to mold issues. [xx(]
Nice.[:D][:D][:D]
Dano keeps vests like he keeps his women, taped up and in the dark [:p]
And the problem with that is.........? [:X]
no problem, you gotta do what you gotta do [:D]
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