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How to stop bullying cold!
Wyatt Earp
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The story at the bottom of this page was on The Blaze. It is of school kids beating up an austistic kid.
It got me to thinking and I think I know a way to stop this kind of thing.
In every group of 10 kids there is 1 or 2 who are not inclined to be bullies, but who are capable enough and willing to defeat the bully. In every group of 100 kids junior high to high school age, I'd guess 1 or 2 of them are accomplished black belts who have fought in dozens of tournaments and are not afraid to fight the bully.
If we could foster a concept in this country that each of those guys who can fight, will "adopt" a kid who's being picked on, the problems would go away. If the bully knows he'll have to fight the tough kid if he picks on the austistic or weak kid, he'd think twice.
I was not a tough guy in school, but I wasn't afraid to fight. That was long before I became a black belt, btw. At least half the fights I got into in school were defending someone who was being picked on.
Our society should foster the notion that fighting is wrong, but fighting to defend a weaker kid against a bully is not only ok, it is to be admired.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beat-the-sht-out-of-him-video-shows-autistic-child-being-violently-beaten-by-busstop-bully-as-peers-watch/
It got me to thinking and I think I know a way to stop this kind of thing.
In every group of 10 kids there is 1 or 2 who are not inclined to be bullies, but who are capable enough and willing to defeat the bully. In every group of 100 kids junior high to high school age, I'd guess 1 or 2 of them are accomplished black belts who have fought in dozens of tournaments and are not afraid to fight the bully.
If we could foster a concept in this country that each of those guys who can fight, will "adopt" a kid who's being picked on, the problems would go away. If the bully knows he'll have to fight the tough kid if he picks on the austistic or weak kid, he'd think twice.
I was not a tough guy in school, but I wasn't afraid to fight. That was long before I became a black belt, btw. At least half the fights I got into in school were defending someone who was being picked on.
Our society should foster the notion that fighting is wrong, but fighting to defend a weaker kid against a bully is not only ok, it is to be admired.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beat-the-sht-out-of-him-video-shows-autistic-child-being-violently-beaten-by-busstop-bully-as-peers-watch/
Comments
That being said, we also explained that they would not be in trouble at home should they become involved in a fight where they were defending themselves. Don't start it, but if it starts, they had our permission to finish it. [^]
I like your idea but unfortunately in todays world the defender would probably get suspended and possibly arrested for assault since he has a black belt. The little tyrant of a bully would all of a sudden be made out to be an altar boy who got beat up over a simple misunderstanding. His no good parents would sue everybody because sweet little Johnny finally got the * beating his father should have given to him long ago. [B)]
It is not just today's world.
In the late 60's I was suspended for fighting after coming to the defense of a kid who was being bullied. The bully was one of the pretty people in a small town, and the kid being bullied was one of the recently mainstreamed Title 1 students. The vice principle was actually angry with me for coming to the kid's assistance.
Brad Steele
quote:Behavior: 48900 Section A: PHYSICAL INJURY TO ANOTHER PERSON
Students are expected . . . to seek non-violent and constructive solutions to conflict.
1) Caused, attempted to cause, or threatened to cause physical injury to another person (Mutual Combat) [Education Code 48900 (a)(1)].
Mutual Combat means two or more students are both actively involved or engaged in a fight. An incident may begin as a battery but end as a mutual combat. For example, if an aggressor hits another student, and the victim strikes back and becomes engaged in a fight with the aggressor, this becomes mutual combat. Aiding and abetting the commission of a fight is also a violation of Education Code 48900(a)(1).
mountmiguel.guhsd.net/index.php/...infoschool.../44-behavior-code
So if your child stands up to a bully, he or she is punished the same as the bully....
Don
every once in a while, one of them would pick the cause back up and find the same result.
violence is unnecessary, unless confronted with violence. getting beat up for your lunch money is violence that begets violence. having spitwads isnt violence. its childish antics thats easier to shrug off than respond too...
They have cops assigned permanently in HS's to keep order.
What has happened to our country begins in our lost schools. Producing lost children.
I despise the laws and BS PC "solutions" that go into how to "stop" bullying...bullying was being handled just fine before the PC crowd and Libs became involved.
It does not matter how "tough" anyone is, that person if bullied has the means to stop the biggest bully cold in their tracks...saw it done all thru school and once in the Marines.
Some bullies are really stupid and pick on folks that are not weak or timid, stupidity knows no bounds.
Big guy picking on little guy, no way little guy can stop the bigger bully square up face to face. So the little guy uses an equalizer and surprise, translation: sneak up or catch the bully from behind, pile drive a pipe/stick or other heavy object onto or up beside the head of the bully...moral of story: when bully has to PAY to "play" they STOP, period.
OR...
With great force drive a rifle butt into face/mouth of bully on forced march when no one can see, then inform said bully if he mentions his "fall/accident" to anyone that he will need to always be looking over his shoulder and around all corners for the next 6 years.
It always works and is simple...[;)]
Perfect!!![:D]
Perfect!!!
interesting that i haven't thought about this in 40 yrs.
i got my * kicked every day for a month by a guy and his big brother. when the big brother wasn't there it was a totally different situation. but i would pay for it the next day when big brother was there. i didn't have a big brother. so i rented one.
biggest kid in the class. i gave him my $2 a week allowance to walk me home. 1st day he kicked the crap out of the big brother. i paid him for the full week.[;)]
tom
With that in mind, with today's schools, it would never fly. Ritalin is now used to numb young minds removing all resistance to Socialist indoctrination.
Wyatt what you say makes perfect sense, would fix a lot of bully attitudes and teach children powerful lessons in getting along.
With that in mind, with today's schools, it would never fly. Ritalin is now used to numb young minds removing all resistance to Socialist indoctrination.
you got that right [V]
Im not excusing the behavior and I believe that if this harassment of this kid has been ongoing then the school has failed to properly notify the parents of the offenders and use their in-house disciplinary procedures effectively.
This thread reminds me of school. We had "Special Education" kids who met the bus to some of their classes in front of the high school. Me and my buddy were walking in one morning and a group of Azzhats were playing keep away with one kids hat. He was crying, and the others were trying to get the hat back. Not to be cruel, but you know how SE kids aren't usually all that coordinated so they
weren't having success.
My buddy, all 5'7" 145 lbs of him hit that group like a bomb. He was swinging, kicking, cussing and when the dust cleared had pretty much put the bullies on their butts. Our Principal had seen what was going on and was headed to help but too late. He just looked at us and said "Carry On". He'd probably get fired today for that.
It was the first time I had ever thought of those SE kids as needing help in that way. I guess Ron opened my eyes that day too.
KC