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Is this against any laws???

ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
I know a guy who lied on his resume. He said he had a BS in Business Administration. He only finished high school. He said he worked for 3 F 500 companies and he has not. He landed a Job as director of Operations for a company and it pays $75,000 a year. Can he be arrested for this? Is this illegal?

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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    Lieing has become accepted in this country.

    I took a person to court, and had proof that he had lied on statements. the answer I got, whe I ask if he couldnt be charged with purgery was "Everybody lies a little" I won the case, but I was very dissapointed with the Judge.

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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Must be a stupid employer that would hire someone with a BS in Business Administration when a BS is a science degree. Gid you mean a BA?

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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The employer must not check refrences,its not illegal but unethical to do such a thing.It will catch up with him and he will be fired.


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  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He said he had a BA. I know he does not. He has been there for 3 weeks now and they have no clue. He tells me that he can learn any job and it owuld not take him long to addapt.

    If you will blame gun makers for every shooting then blame car maker for every car accident.
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    $75,000 a year and nobody is "checking-up" on his resume?!?

    There's nothing "criminal" about what he's done--he doesn't risk going to jail; but if caught, he'd lose the job and could face some sort of civil action from the firm he lied to.

    Hope he hasn't listed you as a "personal reference"...
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not against any law, but will result in fast termination if found out!

    Allen, I had to dig out my degree to confirm it, but mine in Business Admin is a BSc. I suspect it depends more on the school & their perception of the major's requirements than any objective guideline.
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,463 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been involved in the firing of an individual that did the same thing several years ago. The fool put me down for a reference while trying to land his next job. He did not get that Job

    Sounds like the HR person working for your friend's company needs to be replaced.


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    Edited by - william81 on 08/28/2002 13:01:03
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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    More power to him, if he can in fact learn and perform the required job responsibilities he is doing as well as or better than a lot of college students. I personally have seen college kids that have been trained and hired as engineers that were as dumb as a box of rocks, no common sense and less personality.

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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    "Is this illegal?"
    That depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.


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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I applaud the man for getting the job.
    I read the business section of the paper everyday and articles in there confer that most people lie on their resume.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There have been some recent well-publicized cases of guys losing their jobs because it was discovered that they lied about college degrees on their resumes, and having to apologize in front of a whole lot of microphones. This tends to happen to people in the public eye more than to people in private life, but I sure wouldn't want a fake doctor working on me, and that's been known to happen too. If the man were found to be incompetent, and the amount of damage done could be quantified, he could certainly be sued by his former employer for the amount of loss plus punitive damages. It's not exactly a victimless crime if the company can prove a loss of revenue, or lost good will with customers, things like that. I have a PHD that was conferred upon me by some purported representative of St. Andrews University in England back in the 70s. I've never put that "degree" on a resume, even though I've got the certificate because I didn't feel it meant anything. I recently contacted the university by e-mail and they responded that they couldn't help me because they had no idea what I was talking about -- even though I sent them a .jpg of the "diploma." This is nothing new, whether we're talking about phoney degrees, or outright lying about degrees. I suppose he figures those of us who wouldn't lie are the wimps, because he's the one making 75 big ones a year. Sounds like a used car salesman, or maybe a windows & siding guy, to me.

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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote: Must be a stupid employer that would hire someone with a BS in Business Administration when a BS is a science degree. Gid you mean a BA?

    Allen, I have a BS in Business Administration!!!

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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like common practice to me. I'd be willing to bet that if you researched 10 different peoples resumes, 9 out of 10 probably weren't completely honest.

    But hey, he landed that sweet job, and got away with it. Lucky *.

    Its to bad I'm to ethical to do such a thing, I bet I could get a nice job too.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    Looks like he had a BS in BS!lmao.
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  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Sorta sounds like an accounting firm that hired him.

    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    It's buisness-- When my wife and I found the home we wanted, but found the bank would say we could not afford- I told my boss to work me to death so I could show a paycheck stub to the bank to show I made more than usuall. Well I worked 80+ hours for two weeks (total 166 hours) and the bank thought this was a usuall check. We got the house and after 16 years,we are still here.
    I lie all the time because I know I can pay (and will) for my debts.
    Everyone lies to us- visa-versa, we can do the same- as long as you hold up to it! If you say you can do it- you better do it! Thats the honest part of lieing (oxymoron I know).
    Good for the guy/gal that gets away with it- bad for the guy/gal that doesn't check it out! We don't need any more government laws to tell us too behave- we need people who are competent to do their jobs and check things out to find the lies! Think for yourselves and we smart ones won't have to pay for it with MORE LAWS!
    Everyone wants less government, but, yells-"WE NEED MORE LAWS"- thats an oxymoron from MORONS!
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  • BuckshotBuckshot Member Posts: 54 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can't nail him for perjury..that went out the window with the Clinton Administration...or how do u define IS?..but "Only the Shadow knows"
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  • lokdok1lokdok1 Member Posts: 383 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe this sack of **** can lie his way into politics ,all the way to Capital Hill and help the gun grabbers push their bills, it won't be so cool then. How about the guy whose parents broke their backs to get him $$$$ for college, only to have this guy trump that with his forked tongue.This guy is a thief, unless of course he is a minority, then some people would say it's okay.
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  • 96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ccasey,
    He will have to answer for it one day. It would bother me too but it's something he has to live with. It will catch up to him. Let us know when he gets caught.
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    Does anyone remember the movie, based on a real life character, called "The Great Imposter"? It starred Tony Curtis. The guy he portrayed was Ferdinand DeMara, as I recall. That spelling might be wrong but it's close. I read the real life story of him when I was a kid.

    Actually, he used identity theft and impersonated people who existed. For example, he joined the Canadian Navy as a surgeon, the surgeon he said he was impersonating was actually 70 or 80 years old at the time, he just stold the man's credentials. He served in this capacity during the Korean war and actually was awarded a comendation and acclaimed as a hero for saving several people's lives as a surgeon. It was the publicity from this hero status that forced him to run from that identity.

    He was also a prison warden in Texas, and a couple of priests, using someone elses established credentials. I forget everything he posed as. What seemed odd about him was that he would always do these jobs so well, it would draw attention to him and force him to slip away. He was wanted by the authorities for some of these stunts, probably impersonating a police officer or something. I don't think he was ever caught.

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  • austin247austin247 Member Posts: 375 ✭
    edited November -1
    If lying meant fast and automatic termination, the welfare rolls would soon be full of unemployed politicians.
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  • fergusonmorse392fergusonmorse392 Member Posts: 432 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    YOU COULD EXPOSE HIM TO THE BOSS OR OWNER... YOU COULD SEND AN ANONYMOUS LETTER TO BOSS OR OWNER... DO YOU HAVE A UNION?, YOU COULD TRY THAT ROUTE... BE CAREFULL SOME OF THESE THING COULD COME BACK ON YOU, RIGHT OR WRONG!!!!
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  • n4thethrilln4thethrill Member Posts: 366 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    liar yes .. a bum no.. let the man work

    you can be king or street sweeper but everyone is going to dance with the reaper
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