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10/22 hicap mag question

foxhoundfoxhound Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
First off what is a good brand? Secondly if I understand this right, you can use mags made before the ban in ANY Ruger. Right? Or does the gun have to be preban too?Thanks
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, you can legally use hi-cap mags in post-ban guns. I like ram-line and eagle. Butler Creek is more affordable but I can't use them in an Intratec. As dad said, you get what you pay for ... if youre lucky. If you just bought this 10/22, you wouldn't believe what hi-cap mag prices have done in the last year.Jeff
    cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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  • foxhoundfoxhound Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yea, its amazing that you pay upwards of $100 for those things that you could buy for $20 just a couple years ago. But I know I will end up paying it =/ I just cant keep loading those little 10 rounders. I just wish I would have bought about 200 of them before that horrible day.
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    cbxjeff is correct about most of that stuff, the Butler Creek will not work in the Intratec and you can use them in post ban firearms. From what I've seen, Butler Creek is a bit more highly reguarded than Ram-Line and a bit more expensive if comparing 25 round versions. And the Butler Creek steel lip is most highly regarded, and the price reflects that. Genuine pre-ban steel lipped Butler Creek mags are scarce as hen's teeth, 'cause they are excellent mags and no one wants to part with them.I did want to caution you, there was a flood of Butler Creek mags and MWG 50 round drums coming in from Canada that some enterprizing con artist had ground the "Export Only" designation and date off of. In other words, they were post ban mags that had been altered to look like pre-ban mags with a grinding disk and polishing wheel. The hi-cap 10/22 mags are still legal in Canada, and are still sold up there. I see these listed in auctions from time to time. They are no bargain, as possession of them is a felony. You have to consider, the legitimate 10/22 pre-ban mags will continue to go up in price, but the altered mags will always be subject to confiscation or possibly worse. So don't run out and bid on the first Butler Creek Steel Lipped mags you come across.Other tips, the red followers in the ram-Line mags are better than the darker followers. The dark followers were an early version that Ram-Line admitted had trouble with high preformance modern ammo. The later ones with the red followers work better. Ram-Line isn't suppose to be quite as good as Eagle or Butler Creek as far as reliability (from those I've talked to). But I wouldn't use anything else in an Intratec, except Intratec mags. Intratec Tec-22 mags will also work in the 10/22.Eagle mags are very good. They have some very nice features, an access door to clean them and the real lock-up pin is steel. But I've seen a few with broke feed lips. Watch out for those, check for cracks or breaks on the lips.Condor made mags which are virtually identical to the Butler Creek mags, with steel lips. In fact, Butler Creek copied the Condor mags. Generally they are pretty good, I have seen a few where the steel housing is loose in the plastic. And they fit rather loosely in the mag wells, compared to most of the others. They seem kinda sloppy to me, and the steel casting used for the feed lips/lock-up lugs is of poorer quality than the Butler Creek steel lip mags. But even with all this, I have never heard anyone complain about them, except they are no good for the Intratec 22.Squires Bingham made an all steel 30 round 10/22 mag! Very scarce, and those I know who use them swear by them. I have one, but am afraid to pull it out of the wrapper as it would hurt the value. Probably the best chance of stumbling across one of those is in an old 10/22 that has one in it. I still keep my eyes open for those in racks wherever I go. I'd like to try one to see if they are as good as they claim.Eaton made mags and drums. The 50 round drums are quite collectable and expensive, compared to the others. The Eaton banana mags are so-so, towards the bottom of the list as far as being desireable.Mitchell made teardrop 50 round drums that are the same as the MWG drums. Same basic design, and I think the parts are interchangeable. I've seen a lot of Mitchell and MWG drums with breaks and chips, which has always made me stay away from them, figuring if I bought one it might suffer from the same affliction. But maybe the owners I've run into just drop them a lot. I've also heard people say they don't feed reliably, but don't know that first hand.I think a lot of the reliability of 10/22 after market mags comes from the particular firearm/magazine combination. Sometimes a particular gun and particular magazine just don't get along. The instruction on the Eagle mags says (on a new mag) to lock it up several times to allow it to seat properly to the particular firearm it will be used in before you load it and use it. That indicates that if you use an Eagle mag as directed in one firearm, it won't necessarily fit a different firearm properly. If you wanted one or two magazines that would last forever and stand the greatest chance of functioning properly in a 10/22, the Butler Creek Steel Lip would be your best choice. But you have to be careful, virtually all I've seen on internet auctions are the altered Canadian varieties. The best place I know of to get them is gun shows from reputable dealers. If you were to buy one, confirm that it comes in the original package, and check the sides for any evidence of polishing the post-ban data off. The same applies to the red "hot lips" (plastic lip) Butler Creek and MWG drums. Beyond that, I'd go with a new Eagle or Ram-Line, in that order.I've probably missed something, oh well, probably nothing important.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Had two Ram-lines, plastic, I think they were 100-rd. They were cheap, had some jamming trouble shooting those rotten Thunderbolts and threw the mags into the woods, PO'd. Wish I could find them now. I usually load up about 10 of the standard Rugers now, and cuss at myself. Live and learn!! Far as I know, as long as they were manufactured before the ban, they are legal. Still have 40-rd mags for Mini-14 and 15-rd for P-89, have been assured they are legal. (by cops)
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  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have two 25 round hot lips Butler Creek mags that work fine, but I sure wouldn't pay the price they are going for now.(around $60.00 per) It sure is a lot of fun though to be able to pull the trigger that many times before reloading. I use to have a web site that rated these mags (can't find it) but as I remember Butler Creek and Eagle Brand were the top rated.
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  • RUGERNUT3RUGERNUT3 Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have 2 Butler Creek 25 rounders I bought off GB two years ago...prior to Y2K. Paid a total of a little less than $40 for both...to my door.Not from the land up north.JUST last week unwrapped them and went to the ranch for a little fun,and it was! My friend had his 10/22 and was like really green at the fact I didnt have to reload near as often as he did. You see, when I purchased mine the seller had several more at the same $$ he offered to me...and I offered to get them for my friend if he wanted them...but, he didnt...at the time! He mumbled the whole time about the mistake he had made...they worked flawlessly. I also bid and won 2 Ramline 14 rounders for my MkII (crazy * 9 round factory)..Cant say how they work as I just look at the prettypack their in from time to time...
    "ANY" EXCUSE IS A GOOD REASON TO BUY "JUST 1 MORE".& VICIE-VERSIE!
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  • foxhoundfoxhound Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yea, its amazing that you pay upwards of $100 for those things that you could buy for $20 just a couple years ago. But I know I will end up paying it =/ I just cant keep loading those little 10 rounders. I just wish I would have bought about 200 of them before that horrible day.
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  • blazeblaze Member Posts: 233 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    fox, I just got an Eagle 30 rounder today, got it off ebay for 60.00 shipped, needs a little cleaning up, but I was happy to only have to pay 60.00, although that still sucks for a 30 round mag to cost that much for a 22
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  • blazeblaze Member Posts: 233 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    by the way, can somebody tell me the logic behind banning these, I mean I cant buy a decent priced high cap mag for a 22, but I can buy them all day long for my ak 47, at 1/3 the price ?[This message has been edited by blaze (edited 01-25-2002).]
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  • foxhoundfoxhound Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yea, I hope I dont buy a postban that has been modified. I will look into the feedback of the seller and specifically ask them so hopefully I wont get stuck. But if I did, would there be any way of pursuing them to get my money back? Either thru GB or authorities?Thanks guys
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the seller says it's preban, and it's not, then He would be sending my money back or I would be making a trip to his part of the country. I don't want to take the chance of loosing my guns over a .22 magazine that Clinton was scared of.
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • foxhoundfoxhound Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heh, true I dont think they would want to piss off a guy they just sold hicapacity magazines to. But yea never know.
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