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n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
I believe these are Mosan Nagant , head stamped with a Lion , 1936 and a B with a small o with a line through the o Couldnt find anything with the Lion on it though..

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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    i see in different posts tailgunner has a pretty good collection of individual cartridges, i enjoy gun collecting but i really enjoy buying old ammo and even individual cartridges. i have around 175 different calibers in my collection along with alot of old boxes of 22's , shotgun shells and anything unusual. does anyone else have this hobby? i am sure there are alot of you out there that have collections bigger than mine, i would be interested to see some pics of your guys ammo collections. how many different calibers do some of you have?
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Case length 50 or 54mm? Bullet .310 or .323-.329?
    If the case is 50mm long, look at both the 8x50R Austrian/Hungerian and also the 8x50R Siamese Type 45
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  • BlckhrnBlckhrn Member Posts: 5,136
    edited November -1
    I suspect TG is right, although I am no expert. The cases look shorter than 7.62 R and all my Russian rounds have a thick, beveled base and rim.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bulgarian headstamp. They used the 8x56R in WW2, but may have loaded 8x50R, which is the appearance of these rounds. What do they measure, Classic?

    TG54 - Siamese is more tapered between neck and rim . . . plus all specimens I've seen sport headstamps with Thai / Siamese characters. Kropaschek also has a different case profile, amigo.

    Definitely not Nagant - the Russians opted for a Spitzer bullet type before the Revolution. The only Nagants with the round nose were made before 1910, possibly earlier (also being too lazy to look up the exact date).
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    overall length is 3 inches case at base is 1/2 inch, bullet diameter is 5/16 inch and 1 5/16 long including the part seated in the caseing.

    I can only do inch measurements cause I dont have a metric caliper and I is too lazy to look up the conversion table..[;)]

    The lion is standing on its back legs could even be a griffin??
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Classic, I can do the conversions readily enough, use your inch graduated caliper. The rampant lion is seen on Bulgarian ammo until they were swallowed up by the CCCP at the end of WW2.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast
    TG54 - Siamese is more tapered between neck and rim . . . plus all headstamps I've seen sport headstamps with Thai / Siamese characters.

    Being to lazy to get up and walk the 30' to eyeball them side by side[B)].......and mine has Thai writing also. At least I didn't throw the 8x56R Kropatschek into the discussion[:)].

    Classic
    The 8x50R Austrian-Hungerian I have carries a M.8 1937 headstamp, and measures Rim .553, Base .491, Shoulder .471, Mouth .354, Bullet .324, Base to shoulder 1.52, Case length 1.983, OAL 2.95
    Hope that helps you.
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