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.223 vs 22-250

diver1diver1 Member Posts: 502 ✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
I am looking at the new Remington 700vtr. I have a 22-250 remington in the 700bdl that I have had for years. I am looking for comparisons on these two calibers. The only opion that I have gotten is that the 22-250 is better at longer distances. I will probably will limit my shots to 300yds or less but would like the option to take longer shots if neccesary. Thanks For all comments. Vince
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  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    I personally dont think the .223 could hold the 22-250's primer. But many on here will make the argument about cheap .223 ammo. If you want to shoot at 300 yards go with the 22-250. Much more gun.
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you can get a 22BR barrel you will get very close to a 22-250 and burn a lot less powder and barrels doing it. The 22BR accuracy is astounding.
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  • use enough gunuse enough gun Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I went from a .220 Swift to a 25/06. Much better long range ballistics. Dave
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  • 204targetman204targetman Member Posts: 3,493
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by use enough gun
    I went from a .220 Swift to a 25/06. Much better long range ballistics. Dave

    The 25-06 does seem to be an all around cartridge. But I've always wanted a 220 swift. Thats what I was going to get when the .204 came out. I decided on the .204.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get the .22-250[:)]. Much better ballistics than the .223[:0]. Ammo for the .22-250 is more than plentiful.....which is probably one of the only reasons I don't have a 220 Swift[:(]!! Beach
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  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yep, 22-250 is better for long dx but wears out barrels faster, .223 has more used brass and cheaper ammo available. all said above. my expertise in that field is dated. I don't even know what a 22BR is.
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  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Better terminal ballistics are achieved by the 250, but for paper work (factoring in cost of ammo) the 223 would be my choice.

    Either cartridge can be more accurate, but bullet choices are primarily the same. A fast twist barrel on a 223 could give you an advantage as heavier bullets could be used which will have a higher
    BC.


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  • bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IMO, If you're only shooting 300 yards .223 is plenty of gun w/heavy bullets in a fast twist (1:10 or faster) barrel. Use the .22-250 for longer shots and .223 out to 1/4 mile. You'll get lower recoil, burn a lot less powder and get longer life out of the barrel.

    * Well hell, three other people said the same thing while I was typing [:p]
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  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigcitybill
    IMO, If you're only shooting 300 yards .223 is plenty of gun w/heavy bullets in a fast twist (1:10 or faster) barrel. Use the .22-250 for longer shots and .223 out to 1/4 mile. You'll get lower recoil, burn a lot less powder and get longer life out of the barrel.


    Barrel life is an issue I forgot to mention.
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  • texaswildmantexaswildman Member Posts: 2,215 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you aren't into reloading, you will be much happier at distances over 300 yd with the 22-250. I have a couple and a couple of 223's. ammo is cheaper with the 223. An average shooter will probably never shoot out the barrel of a 22-250. My most used 22-250 is over 15 years old and will still drive tacks or drop a critter at 600+ yds.

    Now, if you have a 22-250 and just want a 223, i am sorry, but there is not a cure for that.... Welcome to the "Affliction".... We met every night at gunbroker.com.....
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  • diver1diver1 Member Posts: 502 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My last questions is That I am an average shot, I do reload alittle
    but am more of a novice. If my shots were 300 yards or less and I switched to the .223 would I notice a sever reduction if recoil? Thus improving my abilities with pratice. Thanks Vince
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  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    diver1,

    First and foremost, the .22-250 Rem. and the .223 Rem. are the same caliber because they both use .224 diameter bullets. They are different .22 caliber cartridges.

    Second, the .22-250 Rem. is a superior cartridge to the .223 Rem. in all aspects. The problem that you run into in your comparison is the rifle design. The Remington M700 VTR has a 22" barrel from the factory. With the integral muzzle brake, the barrel essentially has a usable length of approximately 20". The .22-250 Rem. really could use more barrel length to make it both efficient and exhibit the velocities that it's capable of providing. The other drawback to this rifle and barrel is that the .22-250 Rem. comes with a twist rate of 1:14" which limits you to just the lighter bullets which makes this cartridge even less efficient.

    With this model rifle and the short barrel, I'd go with the .223 Rem. which also has a faster twist rate (1:9") to handle heavier bullets and higher BCs.

    Will you notice a severe reduction in recoil? I don't know about severe because I don't think the .22-250 Rem. has a significant amount of recoil. The .223 Rem. does have less recoil though. Practice is a good thing.

    Best.
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