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quote:Originally posted by fideau
Stop and listen to yourselves, some of you. You * about regulations made to save your lives. The regulations are mostly Federal mandated to the states to enforce. When Motor Carrier Safety Regulations were instituted in NC, accidents with big rigs went down 25% the first year. If you could have seen some of the junk running down our highways at 75 MPH weighing 80,000 lbs. you would never have driven the Interstates.
Before the states began enforcing MCSR there were only a couple of Federal inspectors in the state. They checked maybe 3 or 4 trucks a day. But not every day.
At an Interstate weigh station it was not unusual to have 250 trucks an hour come thru during the prime time, 10 AM to 4 PM. It's not possible to check every single vehicle on the road. If you want that to happen, you would * about the cost. It would be astronomical. But it ain't going to happen. Fear is the only deterrent, fear that you might be selected, and put out of service or fined. The program has made trucking companies not want to take the chance, and take better care of their equipment. Saving drivers and motorists lives and billions of dollars.
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Under this new system my MC# can become useless over something as simple as a marker light out, my trailer alone has 53 lights on it, if one of those lights go out and one of these paper happy revenue rangers sees me th writeup on my CSA is every bit as damning as driving with no brakes!! These DOT cops today are brainwashed and programmed that everything is wrote up and more warnings are written than fines because warnings cannot be challenged and stricken from the record. Me with my light out falls under the same catagory as a dangerous defect, there is no more inbetween. The rules are now written to put people out of business, blanket policy for all!!
With the current system I as a single truck MC am scored the same as a 10,000 truck MC. So let?s say I get two out of services in a years time and those are the only two inspections I get, I am placed in a high risk even if those out of services were for a license plate light. Here comes Swift, they have the same writeups but it doesn?t even make a blip on the radar due to the offset of truck numbers. Why is Seift still in business you ask? They can have one fatal at fault accident every day and thier percentsge never gets close to a red flag but just one hit on me and I?m done.
Look at the statistics posted after Safety Week, all the post is the bad reports but they never break down what those bad reports are. And yes one single light out is Out Of Service and that gets recorded the same as someone with no brake shoes left.
Allens episode is bad news for him and his company, Allen now has CSA points and an OOS on his record (did you know truckdrivers have two driving records now?) his company also has the same and this targets his company (depending on how many units on thier MCS 150) for audits and inspections!
I just went through a DOT audit, do you know how invasive that is? I had to provide more documents than if I was buying a Class III weapon and it was all geared towards whether or not I kept my MC#. Even the officer conducting my audit told me the new system is geared to eliminate small companies and single truck MCs while protecting thier donors of the ATA.
The DOT went from being about safety to being a effin tool for the ATA! You folks have no clue how crooked the politics are in trucking, it is worse than Wall St.
It would seem prudent to check the rig before shoving off rather than sweating getting pulled over for a minor problem like light bulbs...carrying extra bulbs would solve that problem.
Motorists down here sweat the junk rigs hauling out of Mexico and local freighters that are a little thin on maintenance...I sweat it out every time my daughters and grand kids come up from Houston through Dallas for a visit.
Freighters that play by the rules are to be commended, those that don't should be sidelined. At the same time Paper Happy DOT inspectors that pull a rig off because of a light bulb need a class in common sense.
I would be hard pressed to view my grandson, who works for the Colorado State Troopers as an inspector, as a Domestic Terrorist...he gets paid by the hour , not by the number of tickets he wrights.
quote:Originally posted by austin20
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
quote:Originally posted by fideau
Stop and listen to yourselves, some of you. You * about regulations made to save your lives. The regulations are mostly Federal mandated to the states to enforce. When Motor Carrier Safety Regulations were instituted in NC, accidents with big rigs went down 25% the first year. If you could have seen some of the junk running down our highways at 75 MPH weighing 80,000 lbs. you would never have driven the Interstates.
Before the states began enforcing MCSR there were only a couple of Federal inspectors in the state. They checked maybe 3 or 4 trucks a day. But not every day.
At an Interstate weigh station it was not unusual to have 250 trucks an hour come thru during the prime time, 10 AM to 4 PM. It's not possible to check every single vehicle on the road. If you want that to happen, you would * about the cost. It would be astronomical. But it ain't going to happen. Fear is the only deterrent, fear that you might be selected, and put out of service or fined. The program has made trucking companies not want to take the chance, and take better care of their equipment. Saving drivers and motorists lives and billions of dollars.
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Under this new system my MC# can become useless over something as simple as a marker light out, my trailer alone has 53 lights on it, if one of those lights go out and one of these paper happy revenue rangers sees me th writeup on my CSA is every bit as damning as driving with no brakes!! These DOT cops today are brainwashed and programmed that everything is wrote up and more warnings are written than fines because warnings cannot be challenged and stricken from the record. Me with my light out falls under the same catagory as a dangerous defect, there is no more inbetween. The rules are now written to put people out of business, blanket policy for all!!
With the current system I as a single truck MC am scored the same as a 10,000 truck MC. So let?s say I get two out of services in a years time and those are the only two inspections I get, I am placed in a high risk even if those out of services were for a license plate light. Here comes Swift, they have the same writeups but it doesn?t even make a blip on the radar due to the offset of truck numbers. Why is Seift still in business you ask? They can have one fatal at fault accident every day and thier percentsge never gets close to a red flag but just one hit on me and I?m done.
Look at the statistics posted after Safety Week, all the post is the bad reports but they never break down what those bad reports are. And yes one single light out is Out Of Service and that gets recorded the same as someone with no brake shoes left.
Allens episode is bad news for him and his company, Allen now has CSA points and an OOS on his record (did you know truckdrivers have two driving records now?) his company also has the same and this targets his company (depending on how many units on thier MCS 150) for audits and inspections!
I just went through a DOT audit, do you know how invasive that is? I had to provide more documents than if I was buying a Class III weapon and it was all geared towards whether or not I kept my MC#. Even the officer conducting my audit told me the new system is geared to eliminate small companies and single truck MCs while protecting thier donors of the ATA.
The DOT went from being about safety to being a effin tool for the ATA! You folks have no clue how crooked the politics are in trucking, it is worse than Wall St.
53 trailer lights? Wow. How many are required?
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Very true. I keep forgetting it has been 25 years. I am sure it's not much like I remember. Most of the people I trained are not there anymore either. I don't think I could even comprehend the regulations now. I just know we tried to be fair and did more to help people than punish them. I've always had respect for truckers. Good luck to you.
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Very true. I keep forgetting it has been 25 years. I am sure it's not much like I remember. Most of the people I trained are not there anymore either. I don't think I could even comprehend the regulations now. I just know we tried to be fair and did more to help people than punish them. I've always had respect for truckers. Good luck to you.
quote:Originally posted by austin20
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
Sorry Austin, I was wrong.
Each side has 9 on the bottom and 9 on the top, 18 Xs two sides is 36.
Then top front and top rear have 10 each, 20 total.
36 + 20 is 56
Then 6 taillights, 3 on each side.
56 + 6 is 62
License plate light, 1.
62+1 = 63
ABS light on trailer , 1
63 + 1 = 64
2 turn signals, 1 each side
64 + 2 = 66
And finally my light bar on the back, 1
66 + 1 = 67
Trailer alone 66 lights. [:D][8D]
Required, 2 clearance lights on the front corners.
Midship 1 light each side, 2 total
Midship turn signals, 1 each side, 2 total
Most trailers have 6 taillights, 3 each side but some only have 4, 2 each side
3 clearance lights on the rear
1 license plate light
So roughly 14-16 required lights on a van trailer over 40? long.
have you ever been sidelined for a burnt bulb?
Not recently no but in CA once was placed OOS for a taillight out. Some states will let you fix it depending on what bulb it is and others won?t without writing it up.
quote:Originally posted by fideau
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Very true. I keep forgetting it has been 25 years. I am sure it's not much like I remember. Most of the people I trained are not there anymore either. I don't think I could even comprehend the regulations now. I just know we tried to be fair and did more to help people than punish them. I've always had respect for truckers. Good luck to you.
Once upon a time DOT would work with us, give us a chance to fix things or make corrections. Now it is all about paper. DOT has gone from being decent cops who understood crap happens and only hammered those who needed hammering to just a bunch of Jackbooted thugs hell bent on writing as many trucks as they can like it?s a contest.
I was placed OOS by a VA cop, the vent hole on one of my brake cans was rusted to about the size of a dime. I knew it and had a brand new chamber to replace it with but was not changing it in the snow. He found it, I showed him the new one, told hom I?ll have it swapped in 10 minutes (piggy backing it), he said get busy.
That can was not leaking or in danger of failure, it just looked bad but it was safe. I got it swapped, he handed me my writeup which was Out Of Service. I asked him why even though I fixed it, he said sign it and you can leave. I protested saying that would destroy my record, he smiled and said ?that?s my job?.
Screw him, I lost all respect for DOT that day. Totally unfair and when I got audited the inspector even said he was wrong, it was NOT an Out Of Service because I only need 70% brake and that one rust hole did not meet the criteria. A warning was all that was needed.
So now my MCS150 shows me 100% Out Of Service, I?m already paying $16K for insurance, guess what happens when I renew in Jan [:(!]
Comments
Stop and listen to yourselves, some of you. You * about regulations made to save your lives. The regulations are mostly Federal mandated to the states to enforce. When Motor Carrier Safety Regulations were instituted in NC, accidents with big rigs went down 25% the first year. If you could have seen some of the junk running down our highways at 75 MPH weighing 80,000 lbs. you would never have driven the Interstates.
Before the states began enforcing MCSR there were only a couple of Federal inspectors in the state. They checked maybe 3 or 4 trucks a day. But not every day.
At an Interstate weigh station it was not unusual to have 250 trucks an hour come thru during the prime time, 10 AM to 4 PM. It's not possible to check every single vehicle on the road. If you want that to happen, you would * about the cost. It would be astronomical. But it ain't going to happen. Fear is the only deterrent, fear that you might be selected, and put out of service or fined. The program has made trucking companies not want to take the chance, and take better care of their equipment. Saving drivers and motorists lives and billions of dollars.
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Under this new system my MC# can become useless over something as simple as a marker light out, my trailer alone has 53 lights on it, if one of those lights go out and one of these paper happy revenue rangers sees me th writeup on my CSA is every bit as damning as driving with no brakes!! These DOT cops today are brainwashed and programmed that everything is wrote up and more warnings are written than fines because warnings cannot be challenged and stricken from the record. Me with my light out falls under the same catagory as a dangerous defect, there is no more inbetween. The rules are now written to put people out of business, blanket policy for all!!
With the current system I as a single truck MC am scored the same as a 10,000 truck MC. So let?s say I get two out of services in a years time and those are the only two inspections I get, I am placed in a high risk even if those out of services were for a license plate light. Here comes Swift, they have the same writeups but it doesn?t even make a blip on the radar due to the offset of truck numbers. Why is Seift still in business you ask? They can have one fatal at fault accident every day and thier percentsge never gets close to a red flag but just one hit on me and I?m done.
Look at the statistics posted after Safety Week, all the post is the bad reports but they never break down what those bad reports are. And yes one single light out is Out Of Service and that gets recorded the same as someone with no brake shoes left.
Allens episode is bad news for him and his company, Allen now has CSA points and an OOS on his record (did you know truckdrivers have two driving records now?) his company also has the same and this targets his company (depending on how many units on thier MCS 150) for audits and inspections!
I just went through a DOT audit, do you know how invasive that is? I had to provide more documents than if I was buying a Class III weapon and it was all geared towards whether or not I kept my MC#. Even the officer conducting my audit told me the new system is geared to eliminate small companies and single truck MCs while protecting thier donors of the ATA.
The DOT went from being about safety to being a effin tool for the ATA! You folks have no clue how crooked the politics are in trucking, it is worse than Wall St.
Motorists down here sweat the junk rigs hauling out of Mexico and local freighters that are a little thin on maintenance...I sweat it out every time my daughters and grand kids come up from Houston through Dallas for a visit.
Freighters that play by the rules are to be commended, those that don't should be sidelined. At the same time Paper Happy DOT inspectors that pull a rig off because of a light bulb need a class in common sense.
I would be hard pressed to view my grandson, who works for the Colorado State Troopers as an inspector, as a Domestic Terrorist...he gets paid by the hour , not by the number of tickets he wrights.
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
quote:Originally posted by fideau
Stop and listen to yourselves, some of you. You * about regulations made to save your lives. The regulations are mostly Federal mandated to the states to enforce. When Motor Carrier Safety Regulations were instituted in NC, accidents with big rigs went down 25% the first year. If you could have seen some of the junk running down our highways at 75 MPH weighing 80,000 lbs. you would never have driven the Interstates.
Before the states began enforcing MCSR there were only a couple of Federal inspectors in the state. They checked maybe 3 or 4 trucks a day. But not every day.
At an Interstate weigh station it was not unusual to have 250 trucks an hour come thru during the prime time, 10 AM to 4 PM. It's not possible to check every single vehicle on the road. If you want that to happen, you would * about the cost. It would be astronomical. But it ain't going to happen. Fear is the only deterrent, fear that you might be selected, and put out of service or fined. The program has made trucking companies not want to take the chance, and take better care of their equipment. Saving drivers and motorists lives and billions of dollars.
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Under this new system my MC# can become useless over something as simple as a marker light out, my trailer alone has 53 lights on it, if one of those lights go out and one of these paper happy revenue rangers sees me th writeup on my CSA is every bit as damning as driving with no brakes!! These DOT cops today are brainwashed and programmed that everything is wrote up and more warnings are written than fines because warnings cannot be challenged and stricken from the record. Me with my light out falls under the same catagory as a dangerous defect, there is no more inbetween. The rules are now written to put people out of business, blanket policy for all!!
With the current system I as a single truck MC am scored the same as a 10,000 truck MC. So let?s say I get two out of services in a years time and those are the only two inspections I get, I am placed in a high risk even if those out of services were for a license plate light. Here comes Swift, they have the same writeups but it doesn?t even make a blip on the radar due to the offset of truck numbers. Why is Seift still in business you ask? They can have one fatal at fault accident every day and thier percentsge never gets close to a red flag but just one hit on me and I?m done.
Look at the statistics posted after Safety Week, all the post is the bad reports but they never break down what those bad reports are. And yes one single light out is Out Of Service and that gets recorded the same as someone with no brake shoes left.
Allens episode is bad news for him and his company, Allen now has CSA points and an OOS on his record (did you know truckdrivers have two driving records now?) his company also has the same and this targets his company (depending on how many units on thier MCS 150) for audits and inspections!
I just went through a DOT audit, do you know how invasive that is? I had to provide more documents than if I was buying a Class III weapon and it was all geared towards whether or not I kept my MC#. Even the officer conducting my audit told me the new system is geared to eliminate small companies and single truck MCs while protecting thier donors of the ATA.
The DOT went from being about safety to being a effin tool for the ATA! You folks have no clue how crooked the politics are in trucking, it is worse than Wall St.
53 trailer lights? Wow. How many are required?
10 [:D]
Each side has 9 on the bottom and 9 on the top, 18 Xs two sides is 36.
Then top front and top rear have 10 each, 20 total.
36 + 20 is 56
Then 6 taillights, 3 on each side.
56 + 6 is 62
License plate light, 1.
62+1 = 63
ABS light on trailer , 1
63 + 1 = 64
2 turn signals, 1 each side
64 + 2 = 66
And finally my light bar on the back, 1
66 + 1 = 67
Trailer alone 66 lights. [:D][8D]
Required, 2 clearance lights on the front corners.
Midship 1 light each side, 2 total
Midship turn signals, 1 each side, 2 total
Most trailers have 6 taillights, 3 each side but some only have 4, 2 each side
3 clearance lights on the rear
1 license plate light
So roughly 14-16 required lights on a van trailer over 40? long.
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Very true. I keep forgetting it has been 25 years. I am sure it's not much like I remember. Most of the people I trained are not there anymore either. I don't think I could even comprehend the regulations now. I just know we tried to be fair and did more to help people than punish them. I've always had respect for truckers. Good luck to you.
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Very true. I keep forgetting it has been 25 years. I am sure it's not much like I remember. Most of the people I trained are not there anymore either. I don't think I could even comprehend the regulations now. I just know we tried to be fair and did more to help people than punish them. I've always had respect for truckers. Good luck to you.
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
Sorry Austin, I was wrong.
Each side has 9 on the bottom and 9 on the top, 18 Xs two sides is 36.
Then top front and top rear have 10 each, 20 total.
36 + 20 is 56
Then 6 taillights, 3 on each side.
56 + 6 is 62
License plate light, 1.
62+1 = 63
ABS light on trailer , 1
63 + 1 = 64
2 turn signals, 1 each side
64 + 2 = 66
And finally my light bar on the back, 1
66 + 1 = 67
Trailer alone 66 lights. [:D][8D]
Required, 2 clearance lights on the front corners.
Midship 1 light each side, 2 total
Midship turn signals, 1 each side, 2 total
Most trailers have 6 taillights, 3 each side but some only have 4, 2 each side
3 clearance lights on the rear
1 license plate light
So roughly 14-16 required lights on a van trailer over 40? long.
have you ever been sidelined for a burnt bulb?
Not recently no but in CA once was placed OOS for a taillight out. Some states will let you fix it depending on what bulb it is and others won?t without writing it up.
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
You have been out of it for awhile, you need to read up on the new CSA scoring system and see it for the devil it is.
Very true. I keep forgetting it has been 25 years. I am sure it's not much like I remember. Most of the people I trained are not there anymore either. I don't think I could even comprehend the regulations now. I just know we tried to be fair and did more to help people than punish them. I've always had respect for truckers. Good luck to you.
Once upon a time DOT would work with us, give us a chance to fix things or make corrections. Now it is all about paper. DOT has gone from being decent cops who understood crap happens and only hammered those who needed hammering to just a bunch of Jackbooted thugs hell bent on writing as many trucks as they can like it?s a contest.
I was placed OOS by a VA cop, the vent hole on one of my brake cans was rusted to about the size of a dime. I knew it and had a brand new chamber to replace it with but was not changing it in the snow. He found it, I showed him the new one, told hom I?ll have it swapped in 10 minutes (piggy backing it), he said get busy.
That can was not leaking or in danger of failure, it just looked bad but it was safe. I got it swapped, he handed me my writeup which was Out Of Service. I asked him why even though I fixed it, he said sign it and you can leave. I protested saying that would destroy my record, he smiled and said ?that?s my job?.
Screw him, I lost all respect for DOT that day. Totally unfair and when I got audited the inspector even said he was wrong, it was NOT an Out Of Service because I only need 70% brake and that one rust hole did not meet the criteria. A warning was all that was needed.
So now my MCS150 shows me 100% Out Of Service, I?m already paying $16K for insurance, guess what happens when I renew in Jan [:(!]