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ammo = size

lawnmotorlawnmotor Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
edited June 2002 in General Discussion
i have a 40.cal glock is 10 mm or 9mm ok to shoot from my gun ?

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    no and no

    However, you can get a .357 SIG conversion barrel for that gun so you can fire .357 SIG ammo through it using the same magazines since the .357 SIG was created using a necked-down .40 S&W case.

    Edited by - idsman75 on 06/21/2002 00:09:56
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Some people just do not need to own guns.

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."
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  • lawnmotorlawnmotor Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks to all

    lawnmotor
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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just got some 357-mags for my 22 will it work?Boomer; I could not agree more.

    If I knew then, what I know now.
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  • austin247austin247 Member Posts: 375 ✭
    edited November -1
    Depends...do you value your hand, or would you be willing to do without?

    I'm still trying to figure out how to cram those .50 BMG rounds in my Jennings .380.

    10-ring Boomer.
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  • airborneairborne Member Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    pickenup,

    Highly recommended to get a .357 Sig barrel to go with that .357 Sig ammo. New magazine not necessary.

    B - BreatheR - RelaxA - AimS - SightS - Squeeze
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    lawnmotor, the third rule of safety, after 'never point your muzzle at anything you do not intend to shoot' and 'at all times treat every firearm as though it was loaded' is 'never fire any ammo in any firearms for which it is not specifically chambered.'

    To amplify idsman's response, sometimes it is possible to fire larger bore diameter cartridges in a firearm - once. For example, somewhere I have a photo of the remains of a 1903A3 Springfield action (.30-06) after some idiot tried to shoot a 7.92x57 round in it. There's "only" .015" difference between bullet sizes and the action would close on it because the 8mm is shorter. Now the 10mm & .40 are the same bore & bullet diameter, but the 10mm is a longer case. In all likelihood, you would not be able to make the action close on the 10mm. But if you could, shooting the more powerful cartridge would, at best, produce much higher pressures and horrendous recoil. At worst, you wouldn't be around to file a follow-up report.

    I do have the remains of a .303 Savage case fired in a .303 British chamber - same bullet diameter, smaller case. The reason brass is used for shells and why we can reload brass cases, but not steel, is the elasticity of that metal. After firing, it will spring back (some) so that it is easy (usually) to extract from the chamber. Using something like a 9mm in a .40 caliber chamber allows it to expand past its max elasticity, resulting in a case failure. At best, you would have a real mess in the action. Even if it were safe to do so, the smaller bullet would not be stabilized in the barrel and accuracy within even a short distance wouldn't be much better than throwing the bullet by hand.

    There are many variants I've not discussed. Bottom line: every modern firearm barrel is marked as to the proper cartridge to be used in it. If not, find out. Anything else will produce unwanted results in some degree, ranging from not good to deadly.

    By asking this question, you demonstrate a lack of familiarity with firearms. Unlike some others, I will not castigate you for that. Far better to ask a question than do something stupid. There are no stupid questions. But I would - sincerely and respectfully - suggest you take a firearms training course (even a hunter safety course will cover such basic information as this) and be sure you clearly understand the operating procedure for your handgun, plus the principles of safety . . . for your sake and that of others in the vicinity . . . because at the level this demonstrates, you could easily cause some serious problems. There is no 'second chance' involved once the trigger is pulled.
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  • Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ids is on the money,you may also need a new guide rod ,recoil spring.

    "If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Alot of you remind me of truck drivers, just like when the rookie asked what the red button was for on his shifter. Poor guy didnt know what a 13 was and the other drivers tore him up.

    Now when a "dumb" question is asked, should we tease the person asking it or should we help? Remember now, not everybody was born with instan gun knowledge, some people have to ask questions, and there is nothing wrong with that. If you read in the news that somebody blew their head off because they made a mistake would you pass judgement or would you ask if anybody ever showed that person how to load the gun safely?

    Yes there is a chance somebody is yanking the chain here, but then again maybe this guy is serious.

    Dude, like a couple others stated, use only ammuntion that clearly matches the marking on the barrel, or on the side of the gun in your case. The results from using wrong ammo can and most likely will be very ugly.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boomerang and Pickenup- At least he asked before he tried it. Show a little patience; you may have been born experts, but a lot of us remember when we did not know it all. a question is usually only dumb if you don't ask it.

    That said, lawnmotor would be well advised to get some basic books.
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    True, I was not born an expert on guns, nor do I think any of us were. The first thing I do when I get a gun is read the owners manual. This critical bit of info has been in every owners manual I have ever read, and usually reads something like this "WARNING - USE ONLY THE AMMO SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THIS GUN.", or something to that effect.

    Although owning a gun is a right granted to us under the U.S. Constitution, if someone elects to buy a gun and then does not take the time to read the owners manual, I have no patience with them. They are an accident waiting to happen, and it is what gives all responsible gun owners a bad name. Not meaning to be pissy about it, but Geez!

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, let me ask you this, have you gotten a manual for each and every gun you bought? Have you bought used from someone and never recieved a manual? Too bad nobody's perfect then we wouldnt need to share info and try to help other.
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    I truly can not believe this question is being defended. I will admit I should be more patient on certain things, but when it comes to weapons in the hands of the uninformed, I do not take it lightly. How many times have we countered criticisms from the "anti-gun culture" with the phrase "Guns don't kill People, People kill People". It is the spirit and the belief in this statement that provoked my first post.

    BTW, there is nothing wrong with sharing information, after all that is how we all learn. However, there should be a modicum of knowledge prior to the use of a gun. That information is obtained by the first-time gun owner via reading the owners and safety manual. If a weapon does not come with one, then it can be obtained free of charge from any manufacturer. Think about this a minute, what would next questions be? Should I clean it? How do I strip the weapon? What kind of cleaner should I use? Do I really need to put the magazine in to shoot it? Should I take the safety off? What will that do? The list goes on and on, but I think you get my point.

    7mm - To answer your question: NO. Not every gun I have purchased has come with the owner's manual, but most did. However, before I used that gun I had read several other owner's manual from similar guns. That gave me the basic operational knowledge I referred to earlier this person or anyone should have with firearms. I am sure this is the case with you and other experience gun owners also.

    BTW, I have the feeling that after all this dialogue the Lawnmotor guy has got the idea to get and read the manual for his and others own safety. What do you think?

    Boomer
    My moto - Safety first!


    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."
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  • SUBMARINERSUBMARINER Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BOY A BRAND NEW MEMBER AND YOUVE ALREADY FIGURED OUT HOW TO STIR THE POT......CONGRATS!!!


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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    lawnmotor;If this was a serious question, I'm sorry for my first post. I thought this post was a joke. If you were serious then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take a course as another suggests, or talk to clerks at a gun store, or ASK questions here, or go to the library and read up on firearms. Most everyone here takes shooting VERY serious, and does not want to see ANYONE get hurt, from lack of knowledge or unsafe firearm use. We always put SAFETY first. Don't be scared off, ask questions, sometimes we forget that there are people who are just getting started, and who do ask questions about things that we take for granted. With the collective knowledge of the people on this board you can get an answer to any question about firearms.

    If I knew then, what I know now.
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  • SUBMARINERSUBMARINER Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    supermonkey can you tell the court your whereabouts on 6/21/02 at 0534??just fishing

    SUBMARINE SAILOR,TRUCK DRIVER,RUSTY WALLACE FAN AND AS EVERYONE SO OFTEN POINTS OUT PISS POOR TYPIST e-mail:WNUNLEY@USIT.NET
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