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Ban Cars, NOT GUNS!!!!!
ironjohn929
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I recently researched the incident of GUN DEATHS verses AUTO DEATHS. On the CDC website under "National Vital Statistics Report 2001", I found the following STATS:
Auto Related Deaths: 42443
Firearm Related Deaths: 29573
The interesting thing is that of the 29573 gun deaths, 16869 were deemed suicide. That means over half CHOSE to take their own life by firearm. I wonder if in the event that they didn't have a gun, they would have found another way to end it.
My point is this: There are far more deaths from auto accdents than guns, so why aren't we trying to ban cars instead of guns?
Auto Related Deaths: 42443
Firearm Related Deaths: 29573
The interesting thing is that of the 29573 gun deaths, 16869 were deemed suicide. That means over half CHOSE to take their own life by firearm. I wonder if in the event that they didn't have a gun, they would have found another way to end it.
My point is this: There are far more deaths from auto accdents than guns, so why aren't we trying to ban cars instead of guns?
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Roger2fan
Thomas Jefferson, of Virginia:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
I recently researched the incident of GUN DEATHS verses AUTO DEATHS. On the CDC website under "National Vital Statistics Report 2001", I found the following STATS:
Auto Related Deaths: 42443
Firearm Related Deaths: 29573
The interesting thing is that of the 29573 gun deaths, 16869 were deemed suicide. That means over half CHOSE to take their own life by firearm. I wonder if in the event that they didn't have a gun, they would have found another way to end it.
My point is this: There are far more deaths from auto accdents than guns, so why aren't we trying to ban cars instead of guns?
It gets worse. As you say, over half of American firearms related deaths (58%) are suicides, and about 38% are homicides. (The rest presumeably being "accidents").
But of the 38% that are homicides, more than 1/3 of those are drug/gang related murders (sadly, mostly minorities are involved, too).
Take out suicides and deaths secondary to the black market for drugs and America is left with only about 10,000 gun homicides per year. So more people die every year in the USA from influenza than from non gang/drug-related murders.
For all the talk of high American gun death rates, if you look at the "big picture" America doesn't do very badly:
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvintl.html
This article isn't specifically about guns, but its really a very nuanced look at the subject of American homicide:
http://www.haciendapub.com/stolinsky1.html
Ban cars ? That is ridiculous. Of course so is banning guns. You want to ban something ? Ban zippers. Only those who tried to zip up to fast after relieving themselves would understand.[:0]
OUCH!!
Done that a few times in my life[:(!]
In the 40 odd years my father-in-law has been a gun dealer he has only had one gun sold
that was used in a crime. That crime was a suicide.
Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution does it state: "Seperation of Church and State".
"Those who beat their guns into plow shares; will plow for those who don't."
"Isaiah 5:20 ?Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
OUCH!!
In the 40 odd years my father-in-law has been a gun dealer he has only had one gun sold
that was used in a crime. That crime was a suicide.
That right there says something, I don't care who you are.
quote: he has only had one gun sold
If you want to be a creative writer, and make up stories, go work for the New York Times.
Point taken. Well made, also!
If you want to be a creative writer, and make up stories, go work for the New York Times.
Greg
Former Marine
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Wayne LaPierre drew a better comparison between guns and cars in one of the books that he wrote. He made an even better case for banning cars over guns even though it was completely satirical.
Then they would have chosen to die of asphyxia in their garages and the new count would be:
Auto Related Deaths: 59312
Firearm Related Deaths: 12704
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NRA LIFE MEMBER, COP, AND PRO-GUN!
Do you know what that book is titled?
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/BookSearch/results.asp?TTL=&ATH=Wayne+LaPierre&WRD=&PRU=ALL&FMT=ALL&PDF=Y&grade=ALL&CID=ALL&userid=SR2etCKAln&SearchBooks.x=41&SearchBooks.y=8
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SUBMARINE SAILOR,TRUCK DRIVER,RUSTY WALLACE FAN AND AS EVERYONE SO OFTEN POINTS OUT PISS POOR TYPIST e-mail alisonandwalt@charter.net