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Reloading question

Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
edited June 2002 in General Discussion
I've been reading the 6th edition ABC's of Reloading book recently. Have thinking of buying a Lee Hand press ($65) to fool around with reloading. It will be awhile before I can get a Dillon.

http://www.leeprecision.com/catalog/browse.cgi?1069707715.856=rlpress1.html

Was wondering if anyone here had any experience with the little handloader?

Here's another pic of it:

http://www.outdoorguides.com/outdoor/relimage/lee90179.jpg


Regards,
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anybody even check out the reloading forum? Are plugs to reloading questions allowed here?

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=462475
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, my new Springfield M1A should be here any day now. I bought some 308 Winchester ammo already, but I like having at least 500 rounds for every firearm I own. When looking for good deals online the best I found was about $0.40 each. If I were to get into reloading, which I have considered since a previous post got me interested, approximately how much would these cost (each) then?Thanks
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    been doing some reloading today, plinkers only. After reading the manuals looking for the best economic loads for the .223 and 30-06 I noticed something,for the most part IMR powders produce more velocity with lower pressures. Why is that?

    Next question, a 30-06 with a compressed load of IMR 4831, is a magnum primer recomended? I know some calibers with compressed loads need magnum primers and others do not. I have never "squeezed" any for the '06 and can find nowhere in my books as to whether I should use magnums. These loads will be used for some LONG range deer blastin tomorrow afternoon, we went out and checked out a farm today and all the deer we saw was 400 yards+, sorry but I know the limitations of my favorite little .223and I have no scope for the 7mm, so it's time to break out old faithfull. Any help ASAP would be appreciated because I need to load and sight in first thing in the morning.

    BTW, I will be using a 150 grain boatail bullet if that helps with the primer question.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was watching the Walking Dead and someone tries to kill Negan. Anyway he picks up the shell and ask who made it. Is there a way to tell a factory shell from a reloaded shell? Pistol round if it makes a difference, looked like a .45.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i am thinking about reloading 9, 40, and 45 what would be the best powder and primer for these? Thanks David
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey reloaders got a question. I am just getting into reloading and wanted to know. Can you clean cases in a tumbler with the old primer in pocket and then remove and clean pocket or should you remove them then clean?
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have never reloaded, I do not know much about it, so, could one start realoading with this kit and some dies??

    http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000449357
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About how many rounds of 45 acp would you need to reload to break even if you had to buy all of your equipment? My son is interested in it and i was wondering if it was worth it. I used to reload shotgun shells in the 80s. I am not familiar with rifle or pistols. Thanks David
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't reload so I'm not 100% sure what I have, I'm pretty sure it is all the needed dies for 32 ACP and 2 shell holders. There are currently 4 of these listed at the auction for $25 - to $49.50.

    I plan on listing them for $5 start and $5 shipping but I wanted to be sure of what I have for an accurate description.

    Any advice appreciated.

    edit = I appreciate the responses and questions but no one has addressed the question of what do I have? Is this all the necessary dies?

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About how many 45 acp bullets can you reload with 1 pound of gunpowder. Thanks David
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As many of you know I have recently started reloading. I have learned alot of different things by reading around on the internet and watching youtube videos. I have one question that i can not find an answer to, and i was wondering if you guys could help me. I have a Lee Colet Dye set for .270 WIN and when i'm done seating the bullet, i can easily push the bullet down inside the case (when i say "easy" i mean with like less than 2 lbs of force). Is this normal?!? I want to get a factory crimp dye, but i dont have any bullets with a cannelure.
    Can you only crimp bullets with a cannelure?? I'm thinking about getting the lee factory crimp dye. But i'm wondering if this will solve my problem.

    Thanks for any advice.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am having trouble finding a good load for a .243 with an 85gr bullet. None of the powders I have tried (4350, 4895, H380) will group any better than 2in. The best I have found was the Federal Premium (1 inch) but even when I use loads that should duplicate the muzzle velocity given on the box they don't group worth a darn. Any Suggestions? I was wondering if anyone has some pet loads. It's hard to find a good load when it costs $20 to try a powder. I have a model 7 with a short barrel.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have an older rcbs rs 3 press. I dont know how to change the cartridge holder it all looks made together. Any ideas. Thanks David
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Check my math here...In the reloading manuals, they always say, "reduce starting loads by 10%". So, just to be sure I have this right, if the lowest listed load calls for 50 grains of XXX powder, then...50 grains x 10% = 5 grainsWhich means 50 grains - 5 grains = 45 grains of XXX powder.Right? Or do I have this completely wrong?
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know you dont need a crimp on rifle rounds when using in a bolt gun but what about in a lever action or semi auto.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A long time ago, I shot a friend's .30-06 with some light weight - mabe 50 grain - saboted rounds which were supposed to fly at about 4000 fps. I remember thinking that they were an answer to a question nobody asked, because they didn't group well - pie plate groups from a rifle that was a MOA piece. I figured they maybe weren't centered in the bore and/or wouldn't stabilize in the rifling twist.

    Are those bullets available for reloaders (yes, I are soon to be one of those)?? Can they hold decent groups now?? Any reason to want to do this?? Are there calibers other than .308 available?? Could a guy build his own??

    Seems like a good idea, now that I are about to start reloading - if they can be made to work. I be's excited, now - ya know what I'm sayin???

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will a Lee Loader in .223 also do 5.56?

    I am asking not for myself but need the info.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am just getting into reloading and i was reading the book that came with the used press. It is Speer manual number 11. It has so many different powders i am confused as which one to buy. I am looking at reloading 9, 40, and 45. Is there one powder that will do all three. Also i am looking for another book because this one does not have any info on 40 cal. Thanks for your help.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What do you think would be the best reloading press. I'm lookin at the dillon 650 progressive press now for about 600.00. Is there better ones out there for the money?
    I don't want to throw money away for a piece of junk, just want a good machine. I'll be loading .45acp,45lc and .223 most.
    Thanks JW
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  • shootinfoolshootinfool Member Posts: 219 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most of the time the need for a magnum primer is when you have a slow burning powder. They require the hotter flame of the magnum primer to get things going. find where the IMR 4831 falls in the range and if it fairly slow check it cross-referenced to say Hodgedon of a similar speed and see if the Hodgedon requires a mag primer. If so, then It might be advisable to go with the mag primer. Keep in mind that the mag primer will change the pressures so start with a say small reduction and work your way up. The numbers in the reloading manuals are well within the safety standards so things should be safe if you go to near max on the numbers. But remember, never go over the max! It's not worth the risk.
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  • The LawThe Law Member Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ..........gosh i feel so much better now that..........idsman75.........7mm.........robsguns........shootin.......are together now.......

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  • reb8600reb8600 Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I shoot 58 gr. of 4831 in my 270 and I dont use magnum primers.

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm,
    Sorry I could not reply to your post in time last night, but its been a heck of a week, I was in the rack by 1830 last night. I'm going shooting soon as I get a shower, I'll look for you on MSN messenger tonight, we will compare notes, hope you have fun, Ryan.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • hunter280manhunter280man Member Posts: 705 ✭
    edited November -1
    7mm I've been using the 4831 for over 25 years in everything from 7mm mag to 270. Never need a mag primer unless the book called for it. Of course I don't mess with the compressed loads either, just the standard loads and I also cross reference with other loading data before I go play.

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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    7MM, interested in hearing what results you get after your unique method of load development. Could be I've been wasting lots of time,powder,bullets over the years.

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  • COONASSCOONASS Member Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm.......Where are you shooting deer at in June ???????????

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