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Gunsmith pushing questionable scopes on me

idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
Okay, I have a couple of minutes here so I want to throw this on the floor. I was looking to buy a handgun scope for a S&W 686. I took it to the most reputable gunsmith I know in my area and he's trying to push me to buy one of the scopes on his shelf. One is a Swift and one is a Sightron. I've never used either of these scopes but my gut instinct tells me they're junk. However, the gunsmith sings their praises. I told him that he'd have a customer if he could get me a Burris. Any comments?

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  • vol fanvol fan Member Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For handguns, Burris or Leopold.

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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DITTO, burris or leupold. He may have seen some accuracy from those other scopes, but what will they be like in 10yrs?

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can tell you that Leupold stands behind their product 100%.



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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    idsman,
    Do NOT get a scope for your handgun if you plan on hunting with it, you will not like it, that is my opinion. Go with the Holosight. Groundhogdevastate has one for sale I believe, I havent gotten around to buying it from him yet. I had a Leupold on my SRH .44mag, and did not like it, it cost me a deer, eye relief really plays an important part, soemthing you can not control easily when making shots at an angle to your body, rather than straight out in front of you. Please, ask around before buying a scope for your handgun, others will support this opinion of mine, I believe. I dont want to see you buy something you will regret. If possible borrow someone elses first, and see for yourself.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • dobieman0690dobieman0690 Member Posts: 148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Idsman remmber its your money if you dont want it dont buy it get what you want its you that have to use the pistol not your gunsmith
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  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    Read what Roberts said again. Remember, it's your money if you do get one.


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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Burris is my favorite....Sighting in on a game animal is hampered with magnification and eyerelief, have missed a few opportunities because of that....for hunting close distances I'd go with a dot or open sights.
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  • PupPup Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ids....I'd vote for a red dot myself. I once had a 2X Burris on my SRH and found it was just too difficult to hold on a running deer. The quality was outstanding though. I've been completely satisfied with my Millett red dots, and would recommend them to anyone.

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We can use red-dot/electronic sighting systems in Iowa? Hmm...maybe I am thinking about archery hunting laws. I'm leaning towards a Burris. I already have 2 Leupolds. I figure I'll give Burris a shot. The local sporting goods store refers ALL of their customers to this particular dealer/smith for smith work. The guy that I spoke with at the local store is a very accomplished shooter and shoots competitively in league shoots. I trust his referrals.
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  • The LawThe Law Member Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm glad that you could find a couple of minutes.........I called the ft. hood number and they don't have 5 digit ext. numbers............

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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As I understand the rules, you can not hunt with a "light", therefore a laser which projects a beam of light is illegal....but a dot scope does not project a beam of light, so it is legal.
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  • buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Swift that has been used very hard and is still a great scope.
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  • 4wheeler4wheeler Member Posts: 3,441
    edited November -1
    I put a scope on my ruger super redhawk for hunting purposes,used it for one season,removed it. Field of view was not what I wanted,too cubersome to carry. Scope was a simmons 2.5 to 7 power. I know this scope is not a expensive scope but it held up well and I had no problem with the quality of the scope. Just my 2 cents worth.

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Law Dog--You were supposed to call the Ft. Leonard Wood number that robsguns gave you. Attention to detail. They'll teach you that if you decide to enlist someday instead of blowing hot air.

    Rembrandt--Thank you for clearing that up. As I understand it, archers may not use red-dot or "holo-sight" type aiming devices or even laser range finders that can be affixed to bows. I guess I errantly assumed that this was applicable to firearms as well. Thank you.

    4wheeler--I don't mind cumbersome handguns so long as the grip fills my hand. I have never handled a Super Redhawk but, traditionally, the Blackhawk/Redhawk/Vaquero Ruger lines do not fill my hand the way I would like them to. This isn't a problem when it comes to plinking but I am now veering away from the Super Blackhawk Hunter that I was once considering. Modern Rifles are not allowed for deer hunting in the state of Iowa. However, I would easily take a shot at a deer with my .357 during shotgun season where it is allowed. My philosophy revolves around the idea that the deer is within range of my 686 if it is in range of a bow so long as I am using a bullet that is appropriate for such hunting applications. I am quite accurate with my 686 using iron sights out to about 25 yards. I think that I can be equally or more accurate with a scope.

    Edited by - idsman75 on 05/29/2002 00:15:56
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  • jager22jager22 Member Posts: 197 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    order a leupold from bearbasin.com.....i did today
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would order my own scope through a local dealer that I know. However, I am trying to build a bit of rapport from this newly-discovered gunsmith. I get the scope, mounts and any other materials needed on an at-cost basis. All I pay for is the labor.
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  • martzkj@msn.commartzkj@msn.com Member Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know a few guys using the sightron on rifles, they really like them. I don't think that they are cases of I bought one so I will say they are good. Three guys I know Have bought two or more, so they must like them. I would suggest to take a look at them (sightron). All companys must start somewhere.
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