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Are we going to be forced to sell guns to everbody

Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,259 ✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
I tell my guys that we don't have to sell a firearm to anybody. If they feel something isn't right just refuse and get me involved. This has only happened a few times with straw purchases and a customer who has had a few drinks but that may change. After the pizza parlor and the cake baker being told they have to sell to everyone and now with the gun shop in Fla. saying no to Muslims are we going to be challenged by the Obama Justice Dept.? I know it sounds crazy but so do the pizza and cake. By the way, would you really want someone you just pissed off making you pizza or cake? Just saying.

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  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    I don't think so. If U go and Shout it from the mountain top,U get what U asked for.
    Just keep on doing BAU and all will be well for U.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can say "We don't sell to Cook County residents." but do not say "We do not sell to Chicago black people".

    Gun control laws have been for of Democrats best Jim Crow Laws that are leagal.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know one big gun store on route 55 just outside of Chicago makes you fill out a paper stating your purpose for buying the gun. Sporting is the correct answer. I looked at it funny and said what the heck is this. the salesman told me the correct answer and explained it was store policy. If I had a Cook County address, I don't know if he would have told me the correct answer. In store policy. It reminded me of the guy who used to put rat poison to kill neighbor on the comments of his checks at Walmart.

    Would I have a hundred percent certainty it was an honest sale to A Arab under the age of 35? Yeah I would have suspicions. I might even lay awake at night worrying I made a mistake if I sold it to such.
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your refusal to sell guns is based on any of these classifications, you are in for trouble:

    Race, gender, religion, ethnicity, age, national origin, sexual orientation and gender identity, marital status, or veteran status.

    Don't think so? Better have an attorney specializing in discrimination laws on retainer.
  • Aspen79seAspen79se Member Posts: 4,707
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    If your refusal to sell guns is based on any of these classifications, you are in for trouble:

    Race, gender, religion, ethnicity, age, national origin, sexual orientation and gender identity, marital status, or veteran status.

    Don't think so? Better have an attorney specializing in discrimination laws on retainer.



    I never understood why anyone wouldn't sell to anybody based on the above criteria.
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my opinion people should be able to do business with anyone they wish...Or not. If I want to sell my house to a veteran instead of a non vet then that is my affair. If I don't want to sell my car to someone who's transgender then Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner can walk home.

    The line is drawn at preventing people from exercising their rights: The right to vote, the right keep and bear arms, the right to a speedy and fair trial, etc. Individual business owners preferences in customers cannot supersede someone's rights.

    By the way; Race, gender, religion, ethnicity, age, national origin, sexual orientation and gender identity, marital status, or veteran status are the federal guidelines. Many state classes are not as far reaching. If you hold an FFL, you are bound by all federal guidelines...If you want to keep that magical piece of paper that allows you to be called a gun dealer.
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    I agree. Most small business owners have put everything they have into the business, including ridiculous hours and endless sweat and blood.

    They should be able to deal with whatever customer they choose. If they choose to be too stringent, it costs them money and sweat equity; it harms no one else.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    I agree. Most small business owners have put everything they have into the business, including ridiculous hours and endless sweat and blood.

    They should be able to deal with whatever customer they choose. If they choose to be too stringent, it costs them money and sweat equity; it harms no one else.


    I agree with both you and Mark, however we now have to live with a justice system that is unpredictable and full of activists and for the most part sympathetic to plaintiffs.
  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 outlawed only discrimination on the basis of: race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

    All of other groups were recently added by Congress, the insidious nature of creeping socialism.

    GCA68 would seem to preclude an FFL from selling a gun to a budding jihadi, so it would be easy to be in a position where you could be prosecuted no matter what you decide to do.

    Anyone in retail must weigh ALL of his words carefully; you can never tell when your conversation is being recorded. The more uncomfortable the customer makes you feel, the more likely it is that his I-phone is set to "record".

    Neal
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