POLITICALLY CORRECT BIBLE

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If this has been posted before.. I do apologise... but this is ridiculous

I was surfing the other day and came across a web site, that left me laughing at first till I read a bit more... Seems they just released a politically correct Bible.. I thought someone had a bit too much time on their hands and revised the Bible to be "politically correct" as a spoof... Boy was I wrong.. its been released...
Some examples are: Jesus no longer sitting at the right hand of God.. seems its not politically correct for the "lefties" of the world.. now its just sitting beside God...
But sometimes the translation is almost ludicrous... Remember the verse in Mark..."Come, follow me, and I will make you fishers of men?"
Well now it seems it has been translated to "Come, follow me, and I will send you out to catch people." Almost makes the apostles like slave traders..
"Sons of God" is not allowed... its now Children of God..
The word Dark is not allowed... its now absense of light..
These are just a few examples and I for one am totally fed up with all the "political correctness" that is being forced on us...Yes I do believe in equality, fairness.. etc.. but changing the Bible is almost the same as changing the flag because someone finds the colors offensive...

Just my opinion.

n4thethrill

i wish all of those politically correct people would be sent to a deserted island. where male and female free and bond no matter their race,creed,colour,religion, or nationality could all live in harmony untill they starved to death....just my2 cents

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joe4348

pig, I take it that you are an expert in cannonization and translations of the Bible?

joe4348

pig, would you like to share with us the dates of those councils and the changes in theology that were involved that better fit their beliefs? thanks,

trooperchin

Sick sad demented world.Political correctness *

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96harley

The original was Greek. The Greek language has severl words that, unlike Engish, have meanings the same but to stree a point may be used differently. Example the word "love". In English I might simply say, "I have a love of God." The Greeks would call this agape love.
Felio love is love of a spouse. When the Bible is translated so as not to offend it loses it's effectness. Why the omission of male or female in this Zonderman travesty? We don't want to offend the perverts or homosexuals. I suppose they might say for "Thou shalt not steal." "Thou shalt not committ unauthorized borrowing." How bout, "Honor the two adults you live with." Insteaf of, "Honor your father and mother." We are creating a generation of Sodomites. Hope I nor my prodigy is around when the wrath of God visits this place.

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I thought Martin Luther was German and the "DIET OF WORMS" in WORM,s Germany was the place that he did most of his Bible changing .

I have sat on the bench that he used under the big tree there.

LR

thunderbolt

God has a warning for those who would deliberately alter His holy word. Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words
of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Pastor Dewey Williams has an excellent book on this topic. You can contact him at: 619 Wagner Road, Bristol, VA
24201 or call at 1-703-669-4023. Ask for a copy of "The NIV Infection".

bhayes420

I have no idea who Pastor Dewey is, and don't really care. I am a pastor, and have my M.Div. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT saying that a degree "makes the man" so to speak. BUT, I did have to take (and pass, I might add) 3 years of Greek and 2 years of Hebrew in seminary. The Bible text you quoted is from the King James version of the Bible. That is an absolutely beautiful translation. The poetry and language is wonderful, but from a theological stand point, it is about the worst translation out there today. The reason is that in the 400 years since it was translated numerous texts have been found that are older, better and more complete than the texts it was taken from. Also, more has been learned about the New Testament Greek. It is NOT the Greek spoken today. Outside of spending years learning acrostic Greek, and reading the oldest manuscripts for yourself, the best, most literal translation out today is the NASV. You can take it and the Greek will just about translate word for word. Don't take this wrong. If you use the King James, good for you! I was raised on that version, and some passages are just "better" in it. I am not in ANY way supporting the new "politically correct, non-gender" version. That is wrong. You can't change gender in Greek without losing a lot of meaning in the translation. Guess all I am saying is that the King James is not the end-all, be-all translation that some people make it out to be. I have had church members tell me before that "the King James bible was good enough for St. Paul, so it is good enough for them." I just shake my head and move on! BTW...most members of my church (Presbyterian) use the NIV, so that is my pulpit Bible. Anyway...time to step down.....God bless.

thunderbolt

It would take more typing than I can handle right now to list all the defects of the NIV version. The NIV deletes many references to God, Jesus and Lord. The NIV questions the Virgin birth of Christ. The NIV destroys the meaning of many verses by deleting key portions. For instance, look at Luke 4:4 In the King James version: "And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God." Now check the NIV Version: "Jesus answered, "It is written: Man does not live on bread alone." The NIV conveniently leaves out, "but by every word of God." What true Bible would delete a reference to God? I make no pretense to understand Greek, but I know that it will not translate word for word into English as easily as you claim. NIV omits whole verses.
Try to find Luke 17:36, Mark 9:44 and Mark 9:46 in your NIV. Those verses are omitted in the NIV. The NIV is a false Bible, not a better
translation. Again, the book THE NIV INFECTION by Pastor Dewey Williams is well worth reading. Contact him at 619 Wagner Road, Bristol, VA 24201 or call 1-703-669-4023. The defects of the NIV are too many to list here (LITERALLY A BOOK FULL OF ERRORS) but are easy to see when written side by side with the King James version.

magnumcreekranch

Go to a Christian book store and you will find many different translations of the Bible. Think about how many languages it has been translated into. Use what ever is the easiest for you to understand. It is FAITH in his word that is important.

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idsman75

magnumcreekranch--THANK YOU! I grew up in the Christian Reformed denomination. I grew up in some of the rockiest times for that denomination and the bitter divisions and devicive speech and actions did more to harm the body than it did to purify it. To this day my FAITH has become more of a personal walk even though I belive in the communion of saints. Spiritually speaking, I know that I have disintegrated as a result of the conflict between this belief and the life that I have led over the course of the last nine years. Whether your church has the NIV or the KJV or the RSV it doesn't matter. The "Politically Correct" Bible was created, not to focus on improving the accuracy of the text, but to focus on making the Bible more appealing to a broader spectrum of "Christians". I'm sorry if you disagree but this is a simple case of man creating God in his own image. Yes, man has tinkered with the language of the Bible over the years but the overall message remains the same. In the end, your denomination does not matter. Your walk is what matters. My walk no longer includes other believers. I know that this has killed me but I am so sick and tired of the divisions that create more spiritual destruction than spiritual growth. I can't dedicate myself to a body of believers while there is still a possibility that I will be run through the spiritual wringer that I was run through as an adolescent. Screw that. I'll just be a visitor bouncing from church to church before I let that happen. FAITH. That's the key phrase here. Whether Christ sits with God or sits at the right hand of God it does not matter. We must be more concerned at why the change was made. In this instance, I believe it was made in an attempt to create God in the image of man and not the other way around. Was I raised with a Bible in which the same things probably occurred? I'm certain of it. However, it is my faith that saves me--not insignificant semantics. I do not have the ability to go back to the original text and rewrite the NIV for myself so that I have some personal security in knowing that I have the "true" text. I can, however, discard that which I am capable of discerning to be blasphemy and this new Politically Correct Bible is exactly that IMHO.

bhayes420

THunderbolt, I never claimed that the NIV was the end-all, be-all translation. I don't particularly like it myself, but if you want to use it more power to you. At least you are reading the Holy Bible. Like I said, the NASV is the best translation available today if you want to compare it to the original Greek, that coming from someone who does know Greek. It does follow nearly word for word. While you are comparing scripture references, look at the Lord's Pray in the King James, specifically Matt. 6:13. In the KJ, the prayer ends with this benediction: "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever, AMEN. Did you know that that sentence is NOT found in the most ancient of manuscripts? Therefore, it is not in the NASV. How did it get there? Somewhere, down through the centuries, a scribe added it on his own. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so. The Word of God still speaks to people, still gets a response from people. This scribe just happened to think it fit, so wrote it in. I can take my Greek NT and tear apart the King James. I won't do that, because the KJ is an important tool for the church. Lots of people love it. That is great. I am proud they read their Bible. That being said...Of all the translations out today, the KJ is probably the worst about following the original. Scholars and science have discovered lots of things since 1610.

Idsman, sorry you went through what you did. The church can be a cruel place. Remember, the church isn't perfect. It is run by humans. And you are exactly right in your take on the politically correct Bible. It is about discernment.

thunderbolt

You can't fix a broken Glock 22 with the repair manual for a Smith & Wesson Model 10. The NIV deletes or alters many verses of the Bible that refer to Christ, God and Lord. The NIV is based on translations using the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Vaticanus (faulty Alexandrian Greek text preserved by the church of Rome). These texts were used in the 1870 Revised Version. One of the authors of this so called Bible (Dr Westcott) was involved in the "channeling" movement.
Channeling is talking to "spirits". The King James Bible clearly states in Leviticus 19:31 "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God." Using a false bible written by a man who clearly defied God's word is senseless. Yes, bookstores carry many false bible versions. These bookstores are interested in profit, not saving souls.
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thunderbolt

Bhayes: As a pastor, shouldn't you be more concerned about being a witness for Christ than in touting your own knowledge and accomplishments? Why haven't you been using your knowledge to spread Christ's teaching in this forum? I applaud your knowledge of Greek. Pseudodidaskalos?

twins

Somewhere it says not to throw your pearls before swine, or something like that. Not meaning that people are swine, meaning that at some point, they need to decide, you need not preach to them forever. * or get off the pot.

The Roman Catholics helped to sever the religions when they started to change things to fit their needs. Take a look at Eastern Orthodox for more on that topic.

He Dog

Actually some of the books of the Bible were written in Greek, but some in Aramaic and some in Hebrew as well. In the third century AD the Council of Nicosea convened and edited the bible. The items removed were largly what are now called "the gnostic gospels." Basically, they said one can have direct knowledge of god without the interpretation of the church. "The church," of course, being the Holy Roman Church, which had little use for gospels that said you don't need the church or its' beauracracy to figure out what the bible is about. As far as I know this was the first editing of the bible that was direct, intentional and did not envolve the vagaries of translation. Each of the removed gospels has at least an equal historic claim to inclusion that the remaining gospels have, and some are very interesting, including the Gospel of James, the Gospel of Peter, and the Gospel of the Child.

96harley

I'm a Christian and I recently heard this among believers. You may have heard it already but for this forum it seems fitting.

A young priest was copying manuscripts when he suddenly realized he'd made a slight mistake with his pen and ink. He took the paper on which he was writing and crumpled up and tossed it aside. He then worried about his mistake and realizing he had made a mistake but caught it, wondered who in the past had transcribed by mistake and not realized it. The young priest was haunted by what an effect a slight mistake ,ever so innocent, might have upon humanity.

He approached the oldest priest in the church ,Father Marcus, and told him of his concern and what he had done. Father Marcus said if it would make him feel any better that he would take it upon himself to search the old manuscripts hidden in the catacombs beneath the chruch. This being said Father Marcus went to search the catacombs.

Father Marcus emerged a week later after laboring over the old manuscripts. When he approached the young priest he was sobbing bitterly and uncontrolably. The astounded young priest asked, "Father Marcus, what is the problem?" Between agonizing cries Father Marcus replied, "It says CELEBRATE not CELEBIT."