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black national anthem?

bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
edited December 2003 in General Discussion
hey guys, i dont usually post here in order to keep my blood pressure in check, but i was watching local news about the beginning of quanza and as the reporter was taping, they introduced the beginning of the 'black national anthem' at a church service. now correct me if im wrong, but isnt this america? and too, ive never heard of the africa national anthem simply because africa consists of numerous countries, so how can these 'blacks' in america invent a national(racial) anthem? is it just me or is my 'lets have a riot' fur going up on others backs besides me? give me some insight guys. thanks.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I willing to bet most Blacks think Africa is a Country instead of the Continent that it is.

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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Its been said over and over, Ifn your of an ethnic background, ya cant be racist, however ifn your White, and want anything white, ya be a racist, cant have any White organizations, or Pagents, or anything, OH well, I once posted in here a list of ethnic organizations, and it numbered in the hundreds, and only 4 National white organizations of which three were considered EXTREME and Racist,
    Its a darn shame that a FEW can Change all the things that this country stands for and OUR heritage as well.
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I'll be dipped in dew, bob, it's been a long time since I've seen your name. Welcome back and use something for your BP, cuz nothing's changed much here.

    Per your topic:
    They've invented all kinds of crap, a language (ebonics), a holiday, (quanza), so why not a national anthem? Next logical step for those who think like that is their own country. I'd suggest Atlantis.

    What the hell ya doin' in East Pakistan? (I'm old fashioned.)

    Clouder..
  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    LIFT EV'RY VOICE AND SING
    also known as "The Black National Anthem"
    by James Weldon Johnson
    Hear It!

    Lift ev'ry voice and sing,
    Till earth and heaven ring.
    Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
    Let our rejoicing rise,
    High as the list'ning skies,
    Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
    Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
    Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
    Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
    Let us march on till victory is won.

    Stony the road we trod,
    Bitter the chast'ning rod,
    Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
    Yet with a steady beat,
    Have not our weary feet,
    Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
    We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
    We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
    Out from the gloomy past,
    Till now we stand at last
    Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.

    God of our weary years,
    God of our silent tears,
    Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;
    Thou who has by Thy might,
    Led us into the light,
    Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
    Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
    Lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee,
    Shadowed beneath thy hand,
    May we forever stand,
    True to our God,
    True to our native land.

    Here this crock of BS here

    http://www.black-network.com/anthem.htm



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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hi whiteclouder! folks, whiteclouder and i go back to gb's beginnings. if i had kept up on my posting i'd be up in the 1,000's like he is! but, when you get married and buy a 21 room house, life changes, and so does everything the wife wants in each room! oh, and i left when gb starting charging, that was the other reason i left! just remembered! man....ive been out of action on this computer for 4 years! anyway, im back and i hang out over in the expert room. come on by and talk guns anytime w.c! thanks for all your answers. so quanza is a celebration. ok, and it was created in 1978. ok. why wasnt american celebrations good enough? see, my take is if equal rights means equal, each side cant have something the other side doesnt have. if they want a historical african, irish, polish, italian day fine. so why do blacks get a week? im sorry...another week? they already have black history week, or was it a month! holy cow. just give them the whole year!~ see, its not equal. is there anyone who is a negro on this website that can help us understand? i say negro because there is no such thing as an african american. africa is a continent. either pick a country and drop the african thing. its like me saying im a european american. heck, lets all just say we are all from one of the 12 tribes of isreal and get it over with!
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bob:

    Ya still didn't say what you're doing in Bangladesh. I mean, nobody goes there on purpose. Or are you pullin' our chains?

    Clouder..
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    im in the state of bliss! lovin it! gotta keep low pro on my whareabouts! hehe. regards.....
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  • Chaser11Chaser11 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D] Don't forget the BET (Black entertainmant TV)what would happen if we had a WET ??[:D]

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  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey, we can't possibly be racist,
    We all own color TVs[:o)]

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Well, I know another Black National Anthem that I learned back in the sixties but I'm sure I'd get kicked out of the club if I wrote it down here. [:D]

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  • old single shotsold single shots Member Posts: 3,594
    edited November -1
    I think that if the blacks want their own national anthem then they should have it.I also think they should have a one way ticket to Africa.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    They were given Lybia and look at the mess they made of that.[:o)]

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  • love2shootlove2shoot Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When is the last time you saw a white woman in a Black Expo beauty pagent? Never, it not allowed, it is for blacks only. Now, try keeping a black out of the Miss USA or Universe pagents. Here comes Jesse!
  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Blame it on Political Corectness. Which really means going for the
    minority and ethnic votes. Time was we were "a Nation Indivisible".
    But now a well divided Nation into groups. Each of these "splinter
    groups" are well catered to by politicians.
  • knucklehead14knucklehead14 Member Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I changed this reply, I may have views that are wrong to have
    due to a mixture of being raised and personal experience.
    I go through life with a lack of trust for groups of people and
    I don`t generally give some the time of day, being honest about it.
    I didn`t like that I typed a remark that I wouldn`t say to someones face because I`m not that extreme. and also I like my nose just fine the way that it is. I`m not appologizing for my behavior yet I`m not
    proud of it. It`s just the way I am.

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  • DIRTYRATDIRTYRAT Member Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just realized all my guns are black[:0]

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  • RancheroPaulRancheroPaul Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here, Let me set it to music: "Fugem, Fugem, Dum Dum Dum DA Dum! Fugem!" (Repeat the above until you've finished your ebonics lession!)


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  • 96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    [blue]Well I dont' know. The other night I got to watching an HBO show called "Color Purple" the story line was a sorrowful cituation about a young black girl who had a pretty rotten life when she was young and even after she matured. She got a bad rap but it was all colored folks giving her a rough way to go.

    My son-in-law brought a movie to the house and I got in on part of it. Martin Lawrence and Will Smith. There was more vulgarity and use of foul mouthed lines than you can count and they even called one another the "N" word, dare I even mention it. My son-in-law apologized for the movie and said he didn't know there was going to be so much trash in it. It almost appeared as though they like being called the "N" word. Now if I used the "N" word, which I don't, I would be a racist, clan hopp'n, skin headed white supremist. [blue]

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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
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    When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    Nice warm night here in the south. Good time for a meeting! Bring your hoods and sheets!! We'll light one up somewhere!!! GHD
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    There are some truly great black people in the world and there is at least one I know of here on GB.com. But I wish the good ones would try and get the others under some kind of control or at least give them some negative feedback. In my view of the world many black people seem to go out of their way to cause under the radar scope racial friction.

    When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
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    When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,541 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would that be an Ebonics National Athem.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 22WRF
    LIFT EV'RY VOICE AND SING
    also known as "The Black National Anthem"
    by James Weldon Johnson
    Hear It!

    Lift ev'ry voice and sing,
    Till earth and heaven ring.
    Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
    Let our rejoicing rise,
    High as the list'ning skies,
    Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
    Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
    Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
    Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
    Let us march on till victory is won.

    Stony the road we trod,
    Bitter the chast'ning rod,
    Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
    Yet with a steady beat,
    Have not our weary feet,
    Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
    We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
    We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
    Out from the gloomy past,
    Till now we stand at last
    Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.

    God of our weary years,
    God of our silent tears,
    Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;
    Thou who has by Thy might,
    Led us into the light,
    Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
    Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
    Lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee,
    Shadowed beneath thy hand,
    May we forever stand,
    True to our God,
    True to our native land.

    Here this crock of BS here

    http://www.black-network.com/anthem.htm




    Is this the music (!) from "Soul Train"? Don't worry guys, they WILL mature.

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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I live in scenic IN. We are a big basketball state although you couldn't tell it by watching the IN/KY game a few weeks ago! For 10 years or so, Indy has hosted the "Black Coaches Conference". Can you guys imagine what would go down if someone wanted to host the "White Coaches Conference" here?

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  • tin22tin22 Member Posts: 731 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nunn I believe you should erase this board. It's very offensive.
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    I have said it before and will say it again. Blacks ARE NOT a minority. They may be a minority in this country but worldwide blacks far outnumber whites as do the oriental persuasions and and a few other races.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Watch it!! Somebody's OFFENDED!!!! [xx(][xx(][xx(]

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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bobski
    Is there anyone who is a negro on this website that can help us understand? I say negro because there is no such thing as an african american. Africa is a continent. Either pick a country and drop the african thing. It's like me saying I'm a european american.

    I am currenly enrolled at a major university. I hate to tell you this, but the politically correct textbooks already use the term "European American."

    As for the term Negro, it is the Spanish word for black. I'm sure many of us remember when this was not a negative term, it was what black people were called. I was chastised by my history teacher for using this term in my writings. I certainly didn't mean any disrepect by using this word, it was the correct nomenclature during the period of history we were discussing. Never-the-less I used the term black in my final exam essay.

    In the Marine Corps we were taught that Marines are green. Some are light green, some are dark green, but all are Marines. Too bad we can't just all be Americans.

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  • Ruger22Ruger22 Member Posts: 385
    edited November -1
    There is only one national anthem, anything else is treason.

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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    quote:They were given Lybia and look at the mess they made of that.



    That's Liberia.

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  • RancheroPaulRancheroPaul Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm Offended TOO! Just have to sing! You can Join me if you like --- "Fugem, Fugem, Dum Dum Dum DA Dum! Fugem!" Ah Yes, I feel the Offending SH** going away...... "Fugem, Fugem, Dum Dum Dum DA Dum! Fugem!"

    I Miss The World I Grew Up In!
  • Travis HallamTravis Hallam Member Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let me express a different opinion.

    They do have whites only clubs. They are called Country clubs. How many black NASCAR drivers do you see?

    Whites do have a BET. It is called TNN. And Vin Diesel was voted in as one of Ebony magazines top 50 influential people. Some of the black girls in the beauty contest are probably more white than black.

    This anthem is not going anywhere so why sweat it. If a few people use it as a way of helping them cope with 400 years of oppression, let them.

    Blacks have never achieved the promise of "all men being created equal" in this country. When one group has a 400 year head start, it takes more than 40 years to level the playing field.

    America still is not safe for blacks to walk in white neighborhoods. The only thing that has changed is that it is now dangerous for whites to walk in black neighborhoods as well. This is not progress for anyone. Non acceptance of other races differences is not healthy for our country. I am still waiting for the day that America accepts 5 black cops kicking the crap out a white man. If OJ had killed a black man and woman, would America had been so divided by it? If this was a Billy Graham group trying to change the national anthem to be more Christian, would you be upset?

    I like David Allen Coe but he says working like a * on one of his songs. How many of you can honestly say you have not used that word in private (Mark Fuhrman swore he never said it). One of my friends adopted a black baby. Another friend of mine referred to the kid as a "*". The guys at work think it is funny. To me it is sad that a very sweet 2 year old child is already being judged by his skin.[V]

    I do not care if they have a black national anthem anymore than I care about the KKK. They both exist and I won't listen to either one. That is just part of the Freedoms of being an American.

    Mad Dog
  • timinpatiminpa Member Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think this, since we (whites)can not separate ourselves from them(blacks),or we are racist ,let them separate themselves and then we will have a clear and defined target. It's like they're doing us a favor. TIM
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well, since i started this, i will put in my 2 cents and thank you all for your responses. my goal wasnt to spin up the gang, nor to offend, but our marine hit the point i was trying to make. no matter what shade we are, we are suppose to be americans. thus my beef. america isnt suppose to be in splinters, its suppose to be united. race color creed is all set aside by the one uniting force. the force of america. so, am i disapointed with all this black this and black that? yes. if negros,(yes negro's because they are from africa decent and tell your professor he's liberal and tell em a post grad from a liberal university told him he was (me),) want to be americans, shed the roots thing and be americans. embrace the american culture and yes you can still enjoy negro/black cultures just like irish and germans do with octoberfest and st pats day. just dont cram it down our throat and make it mandatory that we bow to your celebration. allow us to sample it as any other group would expect. the history of american negroes is a violent one, im sorry it happened, but its time to put it aside and stop remembering it. stop putting nose rings in your noses, youre not slaves anymore. you are americans. and if you have to evolve thru this, having to have your own quanzas and anthems, do it. hopefully youll evolve beyond it and see that you have higher worth and will receive higher respect if you just blend in with the rest of us americans and be truly americans. learn from the chinese americans. do you see them complaining about the way we used them as pack mules in the 1800's? no, they put it behind them and now they are sucessful and contributing to americas success. im sorry you were slaves in the south. really, but dont blame us, your fellow african countryman sold you out to the portigese. which will always leave me wondering why you would want to link yourself back to your african heritage. why would you embrace the people and culture that sold you out? and then when you are given a chance to prove your worth, you bring cultural gang/tribal violence to america in your ghettos. and you wonder why the others look at you funny. duh. thanks guys. i spoke my peace.
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  • trstonetrstone Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There's no such thing as merely being "American". In fact, in this country, you're harped at for "submerging your ethnic or cultural heritage" if you don't distinguish yourself as a African-American, Asian-American, Mexican-American or whatever other semantic bilge our Great Society insists you recognize yourself as. Let's face it: our schools, from the earliest possible moment, do their damnest to indoctrinate children and young adults that being conscious of one's "ethnic background" is of paramount importance so one doesn't lose one's "cultural identity". You're not supposed to take pride in being an American---may the gods forfend! Revisionist history shows that the country was started by rich white slaveowning males who made their wealth exploiting non-white peoples, so why would you want to take pride in being a mere faceless member of such a poisonous society? No, that won't do at all. It's bad enough you were born a person of non-white ethnicity here---no need to compound the indignity by submerging your "ethnic roots" and regarding yourself as simply one of the herd. That's turning your back on your "cultural and ethnic heritage"; that's being an "Uncle Tom". Nope, if the children of this country are to have ANY chance at the American Dream for themselves, they first have to reject the idea of merely being an "American" to begin with, and insist upon differentiating themselves from other Americans through maintaining a conscious awareness of their "cultural" or "ethnic" or "racial" diversity. So what if it creates divisiveness between themselves and others? That divisiveness is purely the fault of the whites, NOT the teachers who drum the doctrine of "you're different and should be proud and never forget it, not for a single moment" into the heads of children from one generation to the next. Who needs or wants "unity" if it ends up costing some poor child his or her "racial identity"?

    Yes, I'm being sarcastic, because this PC "ethnic diversity" crap really annoys me...
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    again i will say, diversity is fine, but unity as one nation must take place. you dont come to america dragging your baggage. you leave your baggage wherever you came from and be american. my mother use to be scolded by my great-grandmother for speaking german in america. she brought them all here to escape the german huns and she got it right. if youre in america, act american. speak english! if you want to enjoy your cultural heritage, do so at home and allow the govt to honor you once a year, then get back to being american. not........lets change america by making our culture king of the hill until someone bumps us off. and i see nothing but a lot of bumping being attempted by a lot of groups. mexico lost. you want to be american? learn the language, dont bring it here. are you a russian? great, youre american now. learn english. did i hear you say youre suadi arabian? great? leave your left wing kill jews attitude in U.A.S. and be american. dont like it? leave. i dont hear arabs singing their national anthem here. heck, i can remember once when i was in russian school at my church as a boy, i drew a soviet flag paper poster for the russian teacher. he got so mad at me, i thought he was going to kill me. he tore my flag up and in a rage he told us all...'you are americans! dont ever make this flag in this church ever again!' we never did. come to find out his family was murdered in russia and he escaped here with his life. if you are a negro reading this, learn from the russians. i did, and thus my bitterness towards the black movement. they have no aim and no pride in being american. being american isnt good enough. imagine that. respond if you must. im out of here. i have guns to identify for some americans.
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  • jsergovicjsergovic Member Posts: 5,526
    edited November -1
    As I understand it, Kawanza was invented my militant blacks in Philadelphia.
    They would march West on South Street and dump fruit into the Schuylkill River,
    calling it significant to their roots.

    A friend who lived on a block near the river had an unusual description of the whole affair...

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  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i know you guys miss me over here. here i post one little post and it gets the flaming topic and 440+ posts on page one. ahh, just like the good ole old days. now you know why i stick to gun topics. i'll pop in if i have any more questions. in the meantime, see yaaaa!
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    X-RING...Mrmike!!!! But I do have a serious question regarding flag etiquette during the playing of the black anthem...do you grab your crotch and slouch while facing the flag or do you instead simply scratch your butt and flash gang signs continuously during the song. These are things I have seen young blacks doing during the playing of their REAL country's anthem and I wondered if they had incorporated that into their new song. Beach

    P.S. To be perfectly fair I have seen a few young white Americans behaving disrespectfully during the National Anthem....but it sure doesn't seem to be as many. Beach
  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    quote:i am an AMERICAN of IRISH descent.
    i an not an IRISH-AMERICAN.
    i was not born in IRELAND.
    i have never been to IRELAND.
    i do not fly the flag of IRELAND.
    i would rather live here than in IRELAND

    Do you celebrate St. Patricks Day?

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