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You Dirty, Filthy Citizens You....

tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
No, I don't think that about you but apparently Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer does. By his statement regarding his reason for voting against the 2A giving common citizens a constitutional right to possess firearms, to me he appears to be just one of the many liberal, elitists who think the average citizen is basically an uncivilized brute that cannot be trusted with such "dangerous" objects as guns. Here is his statement:


Justice Stephen Breyer wrote a separate dissent in which he said, "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

Analyze that statement word-by-word and you can see behind his mask what he really thinks about crime, violent criminals and the lawful but common citizen.

For one thing he implies that your constitutional rights can be determined by where you live. He implies that you should not have a right to own a handgun in an urban area, but if you exile yourself to the country then maybe you should be able to own a handgun. Own it that is until he changes his mind about you having it.

He refers to a "crime-ridden urban area." By that reference he admits there are urban areas whereas the police cannot control crime and he admits crime is very high in that area. He is also admitting there has to be a high number of innocent victims in that area that the police were not able to protect. He is also admitting that those numerous victims misplaced any trust they might have given the police because, by the very fact that they DID become victims, their trust was obviously misplaced.

But it appears that Breyer does not want those present and future victims, who the police cannot protect, to try to defend themselves or to have the firearms with which to do so. His laughable advice for those future victims of widespread crime is to continue putting their faith in the police to protect them. That would be like a physician, when he realizes that the medicene he has been prescribing you is not helping but is even hurting you to advise you to continue taking that same medicent.

By his statement and position I believe that he, like most liberal elites, think that all common citizens, even if those citizens are and have been lawful and peaceful, unless firearms are kept from those citizens they at some point will turn into violent, murderous criminals.

If the truth were known, unless Breyer is just a wimp and afraid of firearms, I bet he believes it is fine for people like him, his fellow judges and lawyers and politicians to own guns.

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  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    worse when he says "no constitutional right to bear arms" Hmmm what dat bo smokin?
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    No, I don't think that about you but apparently Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer does. By his statement regarding his reason for voting against the 2A giving common citizens a constitutional right to possess firearms, to me he appears to be just one of the many liberal, elitists who think the average citizen is basically an uncivilized brute that cannot be trusted with such "dangerous" objects as guns. Here is his statement:


    Justice Stephen Breyer wrote a separate dissent in which he said, "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

    Analyze that statement word-by-word and you can see behind his mask what he really thinks about crime, violent criminals and the lawful but common citizen.

    For one thing he implies that your constitutional rights can be determined by where you live. He implies that you should not have a right to own a handgun in an urban area, but if you exile yourself to the country then maybe you should be able to own a handgun. Own it that is until he changes his mind about you having it.

    He refers to a "crime-ridden urban area." By that reference he admits there are urban areas whereas the police cannot control crime and he admits crime is very high in that area. He is also admitting there has to be a high number of innocent victims in that area that the police were not able to protect. He is also admitting that those numerous victims misplaced any trust they might have given the police because, by the very fact that they DID become victims, their trust was obviously misplaced.

    But it appears that Breyer does not want those present and future victims, who the police cannot protect, to try to defend themselves or to have the firearms with which to do so. His laughable advice for those future victims of widespread crime is to continue putting their faith in the police to protect them. That would be like a physician, when he realizes that the medicene he has been prescribing you is not helping but is even hurting you to advise you to continue taking that same medicent.

    By his statement and position I believe that he, like most liberal elites, think that all common citizens, even if those citizens are and have been lawful and peaceful, unless firearms are kept from those citizens they at some point will turn into violent, murderous criminals.

    If the truth were known, unless Breyer is just a wimp and afraid of firearms, I bet he believes it is fine for people like him, his fellow judges and lawyers and politicians to own guns.

    Actually a good post.
    He is protected by armed security 24/7,........when he, like I wrote about Daley give that up, I may give some sympathy to their female side that they display so frequently.

    The last was a joke if you didn't realize it.
    The second amendment is what it is, and the fools need to quit messing with it.
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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now that precedent has been set, I imagine the banners will now all kill themselves with handguns? [;)]
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree we have no constitutional right. We do have an apriory right that the Constitution guarantees shall not be infringed. Wonder if he would change his tune if the crime-ridden urban area open fire on his pampered *.
  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    ...I bet he believes it is fine for people like him, his fellow judges and lawyers and politicians to own guns.


    Whew!

    I was getting worried for a moment!
  • davealddaveald Member Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So, what he is saying is that it is expected that those folks who unfortunatley must live in "THE CRIME INFESTED URBAN AREAS', by law should stay victims?
    That the criminal has the right to expect that when they unlawfully enter a home belonging to the citizens, they have the right to expect that they not be interfered with, that they not be subject to any molestation from the people they are robbing, rapeing, and generally destroying the lives of.
    It's a damn shame when a justice of the supreme court thinks that its unlawful to be able to protect yourself from low life scum when they come to rob you.

    I guess I'm lucky that I don't live in one of those areas. and the crooks are lucky too.
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    what an idiot!
    surely it would make sense for a law abading citizen to have a gun for self defence if they live in a crime ridden urban area than if they live in a nice safe one with hardly any serious crime?
    i appoliagise to you all, i must be stupid to not understand why anyone who lives in a "crime ridden urban area" would want a gun to defend themselves with! [V]
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas

    the majority gave facts and reference to research. his minority opinion does not, as such it should be dismissed from consideration. by anybody.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    X-Ring HeDog!
    The rights enumerated in the Constitution and Bill of Rights are God-given and inalienable; that so many choose to put their faith in Governments' interpretation of such rights baffles me.
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Many, many politicians and most of the Supremes are way out of touch with reality, they have no idea what its like to live day to day in a bad part of town. I was watching some news show tonight and they were interviewing the attorney gerneral of D.C. He stated that there is no evidence to show that when guns are permitted to owned by law abiding citizens, the crime rate drops. What friggin universe is he from??? Can't he read? My guess is that he made his mind up a long time ago, and no amount of evidence is going to change his opinion....just another old, out of touch, white fart that should have retired years ago. (and I say that as an old fart myself...but I at least keep an open mind)

    And oh yeah....keep on counting on the police to be there to save you when the SHTF! They will get there to clean up the mess, but 98% of the time, they are not gonna get there while things are going down!
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    No, I don't think that about you but apparently Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer does. By his statement regarding his reason for voting against the 2A giving common citizens a constitutional right to possess firearms, to me he appears to be just one of the many liberal, elitists who think the average citizen is basically an uncivilized brute that cannot be trusted with such "dangerous" objects as guns. Here is his statement:


    Justice Stephen Breyer wrote a separate dissent in which he said, "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

    Analyze that statement word-by-word and you can see behind his mask what he really thinks about crime, violent criminals and the lawful but common citizen.

    For one thing he implies that your constitutional rights can be determined by where you live. He implies that you should not have a right to own a handgun in an urban area, but if you exile yourself to the country then maybe you should be able to own a handgun. Own it that is until he changes his mind about you having it.

    He refers to a "crime-ridden urban area." By that reference he admits there are urban areas whereas the police cannot control crime and he admits crime is very high in that area. He is also admitting there has to be a high number of innocent victims in that area that the police were not able to protect. He is also admitting that those numerous victims misplaced any trust they might have given the police because, by the very fact that they DID become victims, their trust was obviously misplaced.

    But it appears that Breyer does not want those present and future victims, who the police cannot protect, to try to defend themselves or to have the firearms with which to do so. His laughable advice for those future victims of widespread crime is to continue putting their faith in the police to protect them. That would be like a physician, when he realizes that the medicene he has been prescribing you is not helping but is even hurting you to advise you to continue taking that same medicent.

    By his statement and position I believe that he, like most liberal elites, think that all common citizens, even if those citizens are and have been lawful and peaceful, unless firearms are kept from those citizens they at some point will turn into violent, murderous criminals.

    If the truth were known, unless Breyer is just a wimp and afraid of firearms, I bet he believes it is fine for people like him, his fellow judges and lawyers and politicians to own guns.


    Spot on.
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