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Which lever action?

RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
...Been thinking about a lever action chambered in .44mag to compilment existing handguns in that caliber....no intention of scopes, just a plinker....any recommendations?...
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  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Marlin Mod 1894. Works, accurate, and just looks like a lever gun should.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ahh...the old debate between Marlin and Winchester. If I had the money to spend, I'd go with the Marlin. It's a great gun but so is the Winchester 94. If I was just buying a "plinker" I'd stick with the Winchester. Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont believe you can fire non-jacketed bullets (i.e. cast bullets) through a Marlin micro-groove barrel. I may be talking out my rear end but it may be an issue. Set me straight if I'm wrong.
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  • 4wheeler4wheeler Member Posts: 3,441
    edited November -1
    GOOD CHOICE I HAVE A MARLIN CHAMPERED IN 45/70,GUIDE GUN CARRY IT ON MY 4-WHEELER
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  • instrumentofwarinstrumentofwar Member Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt-Personally I'm a bit biased towards Marlin. I picked up one of their guide guns in .45-70 when they were fairly new. I LOVE HER. I have been thinking along the same lines (in .44mag or .45lc)with their 1895(I believe it's the same series#) and a Ruger Super Blackhawk. Lot's a fun.Jerm- Yes you can fire cast bullets out of Marlin guide guns. Mine has ballard type rifling (don't know if that's the same as micro groove?). The lands and grooves are just wider than most rifling now days and the grooves aren't as deep either. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, that was the predominant type of rifling when the .45-70 reigned supreme.
    When in doubt...."FRAG OUT!"
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe I'm thinking about the Marlin .22's with the micro-groove rifling. Can't fire unjacketed bullets in them.
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  • BoltactionManBoltactionMan Member Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't for an absolute fact, but I believe that the lead fouling effects accuracy quicker because the micro-groove is shallower. Just need to clean more often.The micro-groove is not the same as the Ballard rifling. I think the Ballard is a cut rifling.KC
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Micro-Groove and Ballard Cut rifling are completely different. I heard of someone purchasing a Marlin in 45/70 and sending it back to Marlin to have a Ballard-rifled barrel installed in place of the micro-groove barrel which was originally installed so that he could shoot cast lead bullets. Apparently Marlin did this for free.Sorry to dilute your thread Rembrandt. It's just an issue that could be important if you are considering either a Winchester or a Marlin.
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  • Norman DogNorman Dog Member Posts: 470 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FWIW Rembrandt, I bought a used Winchester Model 94 Trapper chambered for .44 Mag and I really enjoy it. I chose Winchester because I happened to find a nice one for a nice price. My Winchester is light, handles quickly, shoots straight, and looks good. I haven't owned a Marlin, though, so I can't compare them directly.
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  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    Rembrant: I would go with the Marlin, I've had both Win. and Marlin never a problem with the Marlin while the Win. jamed all the time , both where new guns at the time. I took the Win. in to have it check out and the gunsmith told me they had more problems with the Winchester because they are made on the same receiver as the rifle size ie 30-30 . 32 and 35 rem which are really to long for pistol size , anyways thats what i was told also the marlin has a solid top so less dirt gets into the action , marlins also come drill and tapped for scope and receiver sights. Right now I have 2 marlins in 44 mag one is a 1894P which has a 16 inch ported barrel and is just loads of fun and the other one is the 1894s which is their 20 inch version and has the micro- groove barrel. oh and by the way if you're interested I thinking about selling the 20" so I can buy one in the cowboy version
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a marlin and love it, I also have a rossi that shoots great also, just alittle less money.
    ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • michael minarikmichael minarik Member Posts: 478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt, I am actually surprised, bewildered, shocked, amazed, baffled and in a stupor...how could you ask suck a asinine question like that when you know in the deepest recesses your mind, in fatherest realm of your heart the answer to that age old question which one should I buy?You sadden me the answer is obvious: B-O-T-H, the Marlin to shoot on odd days of the week and the Winchester for the even days of the week...come Rem...you knew this...duuuhhhhhh....LOL LOL LOL[This message has been edited by michael minarik (edited 03-28-2002).]
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ....I must admit that I don't own one lever action, been thinking it was about time to acquire one. Of course no purchase should be pursued unless proper research is done....I can think of no where else to get a more diverse anyalsis than right here on Gun Broker. I've always thought the Marlins action seemed tighter and more solid than Winchester or Browning. I do like the looks of the classic straight stock over the pistol grip style. Owning a couple of .44 mag handguns tends to sway me toward that caliber...already have the reloading equipment and plenty of brass. I have thought about a vintage collectible model, but not sure what caliber would be a good choice.I do appreciate the imput and suggestions....
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  • michael minarikmichael minarik Member Posts: 478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rem., I had a couple of collectibles Marlin's and the prblm w/collectibles is parts availability. If you're gonna be a shooter stay with current...I suggest current, sell the collectible stuff what good does it do to sit in safe hidden...ya can't enjoy'em if one does not have the $ to maintain them...a family heirloon is another matter. Got my Grandfather's Model 12, 12 ga, 3", full solid rib wich has not been fired in 30 yr's..but it's an heirloom...[This message has been edited by michael minarik (edited 03-29-2002).]
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I go with Winchester, just because I love them! But mine are old, newest the first year of the "Big Bore" .375, others are from the '40's and older. Ain't got a .44 in lever, but a friend has a Marlin in .357, and it's sweet!!
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here is a thought Rembrandt: I have a '94 and it is just fine. I got all turned on over the Marlin 336 in Stainless and was all set to sell the 94 and buy one. Then I got a chance to handle the 336 and found to my surprise I did not like the feel. It just was not comfortable for me to handle. Don't get me wrong here-I think it is a fine rifle, perhaps better made than the '94. But it I did not like handling it, I was certainly not going to do much with it but let it sit in the corner. So, since it would be hard to go to far wrong with either rifle, go feel 'em!
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  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I, too, would go with the Winchester Model 94. My experience is that they look great and shoot great. I have a Marlin 336, and I do not like it nearly as well as all my Winchesters. Only problem might be that you do need an AE (angle eject) on the Winchesters, if you want a serious scope mount.
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  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nobody likes Ruger's 96/44?
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  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    WHAT WRONG WITH THE 92 ROSSI?? SHOOTS WELL AND LESS MONEY.
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  • michael minarikmichael minarik Member Posts: 478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Duckhunter, you sick Mallard....Did ya ever know a dealer to give you what you want when you want to sell'em back a Rossi?By the way the 63's have been sold...I think!How was KC...any more here...this year?mike
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  • legn4legn4 Member Posts: 481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrant here is my 2 cents worth. The Marlin 1894 pre safety in 44 mag would be a good choice. So would a Browning B-92 if you can find one. I got a 94 AE in 45LC its ok but not my first choice. And no Iam not working tonite!
    Work'n like a dog all nite
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any comment on Ruger's lever-44's? I've never known anyone that has owned one.
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  • texshootertexshooter Member Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    just my 2 cents worth: Have a Win 44 mag, ok maybe, had a Browning 44 ( wish i had it back)...going for a Marlin Cowboy this time in 44 mag to go with my Marlin cowboy 45 colt.
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