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Got Jesus in the mail today

TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
No he did't say I get better looking every day.
Found a video of Jesus in the mail box. It has a sticker that says 9-11 Remembrance Edition. Did any one else get this today? I have seen this movie before. It is not to bad. Thay stick very much to the story as told in the Bible. But it is kind of dry.
TOOLS

When I was a child, I thought as a child. But now that I am growen, I just wish I could act like a child and get away with it.

Comments

  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Might just be a SC phenomenon; I got one too.

    Of course, being a diehard atheist I won't have much use for it.

    Maybe I should copy something X-rated onto it and donate it to some church garage sale....help open-up new neural networks in the brain of some poor unsuspecting "follower"--help to turn him (or her) into a leader...

    ...SHOCK THE MONKEY TO LIFE!
  • TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
    edited November -1
    Competentone some day your going to be suprised.
    TOOLS

    When I was a child, I thought as a child. But now that I am growen, I just wish I could act like a child and get away with it.
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I already was...

    ...when I figured-out that there was no God.
  • mkirklandmkirkland Member Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    UH-OH this doesn't sound good....
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Jesus in the mail?? All I got was a water bill!!
  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Psalm 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They
    are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thunderbolt,

    The realization that "There is no God" is not a "heart" thing, it's a "head" thing.

    A man can live his life, guiding his action by rational thought, or he can spend his life "hoping", guiding his actions with blind emotion.

    I choose the rational thought approach.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    competentone: the logic of the Atheist and the Christian is the same; both start with imponderable claims. Therefore, the Atheist is no more rational than the Christian.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • bhayes420bhayes420 Member Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "The Jesus Project" was sending out several million copies to different states. Remember reading that South Carolina was one of them. Don't know how or why they picked the states they did. The Jesus movie is not bad. Follows Matthew's Gospel nearly verse for verse, or as well as a movie could. Been out in release for several years, mainly for show on college campus's though "Campus Crusade for Christ."
  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    Of course, being a diehard atheist I won't have much use for it.


    If you do not want it send it to me I didnt get one.

    If you will blame gun makers for every shooting then blame car maker for every car accident.
  • susiesusie Member Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When we were living in Georgia, a house in our neighborhood had been up for sale for a long time. One day as my husband and I were driving home we passed the house and it had sold. We wondered who had bought the house because we never saw anyone. About a month later we drove by and there was a sign in the front yard that said "Jesus lives Here". I looked over at hubbie and said "Well now we know, Jesus bought it".

    ***There's a difference between living and living well!***
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    What, nobody like my water bill joke? Geez, lighten up people.
  • The firearms consultantThe firearms consultant Member Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only difference between an Atheist and a Christian- The Atheist better be right!

    I might not always tell you the truth, but I will never lie to you!
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interstatepawnllc: I walked on my water bill.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    TFC: Didn't say there is no difference; only that there's no difference in logic.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    D.W.S., whaddya tryin to compete with Moses?
  • pantera7974pantera7974 Member Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i want a jesus porn tape !!!!!whose name do they call out in them????hmmm, i wonder???
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pantera: "OH...OH...OH non-existent, all-knowing being!!!"

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • STEERZ@NDSTRIPESSTEERZ@NDSTRIPES Member Posts: 370 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you guys got beef with Jesus,
    I wish you the best,
    The day is comming.
    Christ Is King!

    JUSTICE WITHOUT MERCY
    IS TYRANY, MERCY WITHOUT
    JUSTICE IS WEAKNESS

    CHRISTIAN,AMERICAN
    HETEROSEXUAL,PROGUN
    CONSERVATIVE
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...debating whether I should keep this going since Nunn will delete it soon...

    Oh, what the heck.

    DancesWithSheep,

    There is no such thing as an "Atheist" with a capital "A"--although some would like it that way. Being an "atheist" says nothing about what one believes in; atheist is simply a word that says one does not ascribe to a theistic philosophy.

    There are atheists who are extremely irrational (no logic) in their general "life philosophy"--"communists" are often a good example of the "irrational atheist".

    More common though, are people who have arrived at an "atheistic" philosophy by scientifically examining the world around them. (PLEASE don't give me a list of "famous scientists" who believe in "God" as a response to my comment.) The "scientific approach" has everything to do with logic (the non-contratictory integration of facts).

    Religion, generally, rejects logic--it is a philosophy based upon mystical or supernatural premises. Religion generally does not rely on logical argument, but instead requires "faith", on behalf of its followers, in accepting its tenets.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Competentone: Sir, you are playing word games, i.e., redefining a term to suit your needs (FYI, this is known as the "conventionalist's strategem" in philosophical circles; see Karl Popper's "The Poverty of Historicism"). I suggest you instead consult any dictionary; the convenient definition you provided will not be found. Instead:

    - one who denies the existence of God.

    Aetheism is not not ascribing to a theistic philosphy; it is simply not believing in God. That is why it is no more logical than theism.

    As for the scientific approach (read: "scientific method"), the results of such application has nothing to do with whether there is or is not a diety; it is merely a tool for ordering and explaining what is ponderable.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    I suggest you instead consult any dictionary; the convenient definition you provided will not be found. Instead:

    - one who denies the existence of God.

    Aetheism is not not ascribing to a theistic philosphy; it is simply not believing in God. That is why it is no more logical than theism.



    Talk about "word games"! LOL

    I suggest you use your dictionary to look-up the word "theist". You might also want to use your dictionary to examine the prefix "an-"; it means "against" or "opposite" (when used before a word starting with a consonant the "n" is left off; it just becomes an "a"--such as in "atheist")

    The word "atheist" means "opposite of a theist".

    As for "scientific approach"--I am talking about using a "scientific like" method in formulating one general philosophy. (One's "general philosophy" can be described as the "system software of one's brain"--and NO, you won't find that in a dictionary!)
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Competentone: You are correct that 'atheist' means the opposite of 'theist'. That is the point I have been unsuccessful making with you until now. And because the atheist and the theist take up two sides of the same imponderable argument, one cannot be more based in logic than the other.

    You've also now gone from "scientific approach" to "a 'scienfitic like' method". I suppose blood-letting and isolating humors embrace a "scientific like method"; but then, that is not the same thing as science.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is getting good- can't last, though

    Nothing very, very good or very, very bad lasts for very, very long.
  • TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
    edited November -1
    Competentone
    I respect your beliefs. As I hope you will mine. I did not start this thread with the intent of a theological debate.
    But there is one thing I would like to know. Whenever I meet a Christian I ask them to share with me what brought the to Christ. Since you stated that you were suprised when you found out there was no God, I want to know how you came to that realization.
    Thanks TOOLS

    When I was a child, I thought as a child. But now that I am growen, I just wish I could act like a child and get away with it.
  • txnhntrtxnhntr Member Posts: 136 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JESUS SAYS AS JESUS DOES, SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

    glen e nuinez
  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wasn't going to read this thread because I knew where it would eventually go. I was right....it went right where it always has and always will.

    Mudge the opposite of theist

    DWS....I liked the "water bill" quip. You left out the "rim shot" though.

    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!

    Edited by - mudge on 09/10/2002 21:54:04
  • txnhntrtxnhntr Member Posts: 136 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jesus must love all of us or the world would be coming to an end, the lord jesus sasys let there be kight and there was light and let therre be sun and there was sun so let there be evil and there was evil; then let there be usa and the evil was gone i said gone from the face of the earth, the jesus must exist, f+++ the terrost.,

    glen e nuinez
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi TOOLS,

    Contrary to what most might like to believe, I have no problems with others' religious beliefs--so long as they don't attempt to force me to accept those beliefs.

    I sometimes enjoy challenging believers--that's the "SHOCK THE MONKEY TO LIFE" comment above--I think those who choose to live their lives using a 4th century (or earlier) philosophy sometimes need a few intellectual challenges.

    Other thinkers/writers (one name that comes to my mind first is Ayn Rand) helped to "shock my brain" to life years back; and leading to an answer to your question: It was a process of learning, of awakening, of enlightenment.

    What I've read about the human brain and how we "gain knowledge", I'd say my realization that "the world is not controled by supernatural forces, but is knowable--and that I can understand it" represented significant new neural networks "openning up" in my brain. That's what happens when we learn new things--our brains actually change.

    It wasn't all a "sudden event". I had been raised in religion--you could have describe me as "devout". My religious beliefs were not something that "changed instantly"; it was a process of "reprogramming" my brain. But once I realized there were massive contradictions in my religious beliefs, I knew I had to built, and live by some different philosophy which didn't require I close down my intellect and just accept its tenets on "faith".

    It was a process of requiring proof of what I believe in.
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought Elvis was the King?

    Merc



    quote:If you guys got beef with Jesus,
    I wish you the best,
    The day is comming.
    Christ Is King!

    NO! You may not have my guns! Now go crawl back into your hole!

    ****************************************

    "Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt
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