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Drinking alcohol with guns in the house

MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,155 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
Hypothetical situation: Cops fail to prove a homeowner shot an intruder in self defense(turns out to be a guy he knows). Cops release "suspect" who returns to his home. Couple of days later, cops return to residence in an unmarked car followed by brothers of the deceased in their private vehicle on the premise of having the relatives remove the deceased's vehicle. Homeowner has been drinking(not an unexpected reaction to fatally shooting someone in your kitchen)and seeing a couple of unknown vehicles approaching, arms himself. Cops go ballistic and arrest the homeowner on being drunk in possession of a firearm(IN HIS OWN HOME).
It seems to me there are numerous aberrations in this scenario. The major problem I see is the cops accompanied the relatives to the residence w/o identifying themselves, calling ahead, or using a marked patrol car. Allowing the relatives to "pick up the deceased's vehicle" in person seems so far wrong as to be a set-up to encourage the homeowner to feel threatened and possibly make the wrong move.
Fortunately, sanity prevailed with the prosecutor's office and charges of pointing a firearm at the LEO was dropped. Whether the homeowner got his "confiscated" firearms returned was not told.
So, my question is: How many of you are violating some sort of "possession while under the influence" statute if you drink in your own home?

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  • Tech141Tech141 Member Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am not sure if that is even a codified(?) offense. Is there even a law against possessing a firearm in your domicile while drinking?
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,038 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tech141
    I am not sure if that is even a codified(?) offense. Is there even a law against possessing a firearm in your domicile while drinking?



    I shore as hell hope not! Don
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,155 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This scenario took place in Colorado.
  • wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We just had a County Commissioner Try to cut down a tree in his yard drunk, couldn't do it, so he put six rounds into the tree!

    He got busted, then it all just went away!

    I don't think anyone is going to get busted for that around here![;)][:D]
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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If having alcohol and firearms in my home is against the law, I should be on death row!
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    Drinking and in possession of a firearm- One can only hope the police stay away from deer hunting camp.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,155 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some of those little known laws that can be used "as needed" may be on the books in lots of places. Need a reason for a search warrant-just get some folks to verify they saw guns and liquor(or make it up).
    Headlines read "Drunk man with arsenal of firearms in custody-stockpile of weapons and ammunition confiscated". Who's going to argue with that process?
  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You and I both Jeff. My ol' dad always told me that whiskey gets blamed for a lot of things it didn't do.
    W.D.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I saw a "reality" TV show tonight with that scenario. I don't always see everything in a TV show, but I didn't see him point a weapon at the cops. Maybe he did.

    The prosecutor didn't charge him with the homicide because he couldn't prove the case. They did charge him with having guns and alcohol in his home at the same time. He is now serving two years in prison on that charge. He is officially a felon. My guess is he won't get the guns back.
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  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like something NRA ILA should look into...

    Could be a big ball of wax for gun owners.
  • DirtyDawgDirtyDawg Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    Sounds like something NRA ILA should look into...

    Could be a big ball of wax for gun owners.


    I wouldn't trust the Negotiate Rights Association to address this issue. They would just craft ANOTHER "sensible gun law" not in the best interest of the 2nd Amendment.
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by Tech141
    I am not sure if that is even a codified(?) offense. Is there even a law against possessing a firearm in your domicile while drinking?



    I shore as hell hope not! Don

    +1[:0][:0][:0][:D]
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What about in your car?
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

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  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
    Hypothetical situation: Cops fail to prove a homeowner shot an intruder in self defense(turns out to be a guy he knows). Cops release "suspect" who returns to his home. Couple of days later, cops return to residence in an unmarked car followed by brothers of the deceased in their private vehicle on the premise of having the relatives remove the deceased's vehicle. Homeowner has been drinking(not an unexpected reaction to fatally shooting someone in your kitchen)and seeing a couple of unknown vehicles approaching, arms himself. Cops go ballistic and arrest the homeowner on being drunk in possession of a firearm(IN HIS OWN HOME).


    Sounds like entrapment to me. Case dismissed.
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have watched the last 2 episodes of that show ""rocky mountain law"".. AND PEOPLE WONDER why there is a growing distrust of the police,,as you said,,last week arrested a guy for having a couple shots of Vodka in his own home because he also had a weapon,,this week they hiked in for miles to harass a couple guys gold prospecting because they were armed for protection. they even admitted they were looking for any reason to arrest the guys and confiscate the scary weapons.
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I never drink alcohol with my guns. They can buy their own drinks.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IF drinking in my home with guns loaded and near, then I am a bad guy.. Done it for decades,,no one ever hurt,,[8)]

    That scenario is how things happen,,cops should have called FIRST, imo.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,155 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hope and bluster won't change obscure laws that are on the books but not commonly known or enforced. Some of those statutes are hilarious but others have serious consequences.
    Here's an example: Recently, I became involved in a disagreement over a used vehicle that was misrepresented. Seller arrogantly says "See you in court". He'll see a courtroom for sure. He failed to provide a simple document that is getting him prosecuted by the state. Here's the kicker. The Prosecuting Attorney, the State Police, and the county LEO didn't know about this law until I presented it to them even though it was on the books for over 20 years.
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