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7x61 Sharpe & Hart

35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
edited April 2014 in General Discussion
Anyone here have a rifle in this chambering? How does it compare to the 7mm Remington Mag? Are dies easy to find? A local pawn shop has a rifle chambered in it, a very nice custom on a VZ24 Mauser action. Asking price is $300.


Very similar to this, including the barrel length, and condition: http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=412623622
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've only seen one in my life. Guide in Cody WY had one built on a Mauser action IIRC. Basically identical performance but NOT interchangeable.
    Compared to 7mm Rem mag the 7x61 case is slightly shorter with a longer neck and more body taper
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    As noted, the case head is the same diameter but it has slightly more body taper and is a little shorter. Norma used to make brass for it and RCBS & Redding at least used to have dies available for it. If worse came to worst, it would be very simple for a gunsmith to run a 7 Rem Mag reamer in it- but I'd much prefer the uniqueness of the S&H.
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  • swearengineswearengine Member Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have one in a Schultz and Larsen. My wife has a custom one built on a Whitworth action. My Mother-in-law has a custom one built on a Whitworth action.
    Comparing to the 7mm Remington Magnum is splitting hairs.
    Hard to find ammo for it now. Best to reload.
    Very unique and well worth the asking price.
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  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ray B
    As noted, the case head is the same diameter but it has slightly more body taper and is a little shorter. Norma used to make brass for it and RCBS & Redding at least used to have dies available for it. If worse came to worst, it would be very simple for a gunsmith to run a 7 Rem Mag reamer in it- but I'd much prefer the uniqueness of the S&H.



    That's what attracted me to it, the uniqueness of it. On top of that, I have numerous boxes of 7mm bullets (kept because of my 7x57 Ruger), and probably 200 once-fired 7mm Remington mag cases.

    I'm assuming that, in a pinch, I could form 7x61 cases from the Remington brass, then?
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    quote:

    I'm assuming that, in a pinch, I could form 7x61 cases from the Remington brass, then?


    I haven't looked-up the forming of S&H brass, but I suspect that all that's needed is to run Rem brass through a full length S&H die and trim to length.
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  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    From The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions by John J. Donnelly.
    Made from factory or 300H&H mag. Do Not Anneal. Run into 7X61 form die. Trim to 2.4". Chamfer. Fire form in chamber.
    He goes on to say he's had good luck using 300 Win Mag cases.
    When I was a kid, about 13 years old, I traded a pretty rough Winchester model 54 in 257 Roberts, for a custom built 1903 Enfield in 30-06. A long story. Anyway, the gunsmith I traded with, re-barreled that model 54 and made it into a 7X61 S&H. That was my first encounter with that caliber.
    W.D.
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "I could form 7x61 cases from the Remington brass, then"
    You need to make double darned sure that reformed brass doesn't find it's way back into a 7mmRem mag. Back in the days when I was doing cartridge contortions, I NEVER used a donor case of a caliber fitting any rifle I had that couldn't be readily noticed as being modified . No 30/06 made into 8x57 or 8mm06 or 6mm into 257 Rob or things like that.
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