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We received a letter in yesterday's mail...
retroxler58
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It was very much 'OFFICIAL' looking, computer generated and addressed:
" TO THE RESIDENT OF:
'censored street'
WAXHAW, NC 28173 'censored-zip' "
From the United States Department Of Commerce... U.S. Census Bureau
So I started doing a tad bit of research...
Rep. Ron Paul, TX (R), has commented on this gub'ment 'request' in this online article... LINK
quote:You may not have heard of the American Community Survey, but you will. The national census, which historically is taken every ten years, has expanded to quench the federal bureaucracy's ever-growing thirst to govern every aspect of American life. The new survey, unlike the traditional census, is taken each and every year at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's not brief. It contains 24 pages of intrusive questions concerning matters that simply are none of the government's business, including your job, your income, your physical and emotional heath, your family status, your dwelling, and your intimate personal habits.
The Rutherford Institute of Charlottesville, VA...
"Issues Final Warning to Census Bureau Over Forcing Americans to Complete Highly Invasive Surveys Unrelated to Census" LINK
John W. Whitehead, founder and president of The Rutherford Institute in Charlottesville, VA remarked in a letter dated 22-Mar'2012 to Robert M. Groves, Director U.S. Census Bureau... LINK
ref: "Legal Concerns regarding the American Community Survey (ACS)"
quote:"There is no way that those who founded this country would have authorized the federal government to incessantly or perpetually demand, under penalty of law, such detailed information from the American people," said Whitehead. "Indeed, the American Community Survey contains some of the most detailed and intrusive questions ever put forth in a census questionnaire, concerning matters that the government simply has no business knowing, including a person's job, income, physical and emotional health, family status, place of residence and intimate personal and private habits."
In response, Robert Groves explained that the authority to carry out the ACS was covered by a congressional directive to his agency to carry out a decennial census program and to quote:"obtain such other census information as necessary."
Whitehead continues with a clear and concise comment that the Rutherford Institute would counter with a lawsuit on behalf of the American Citizens if the Census Bureau continues upon this path...
And as noted on yet another website... LINK
quote:In the end, however, the Census Bureau has no authority to enforce the laws that require the ACS be answered. The Census Bureau can press formal charges for non-compliance, but this is somewhat impractical given the number of forms that are not returned, or that are returned incomplete. A lawsuit would likely draw media attention and a public outcry that would very probably bring an end to the survey or end mandatory compliance. As of early 2007, no legal action has been taken against anyone for refusing to answer the ACS.
And finally... It seems that in May-June of this year... Congress voted to defund the American Community Survey... One of several LINKS to this information.
quote:The House voted to cut all funding for the Census Bureau's annual collection of data on the economic, demographic and housing characteristics of U.S. households. Backers of the plan called the annual survey of 3 million random households "unconstitutional" and "an invasion of privacy" and balked at the relatively modest price tag of $2.4 billion a decade. This action, along with a current move in the Senate to enact "compromise" legislation that would make the American Community Survey (ACS) voluntary, works against laudable efforts by Congress to eliminate ineffective programs and curtail government waste.
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So... They can jus'kiss my * where the sun don't shine... [;)]
And if they want it back... Voluntarily...
I'll use it to wipe that same said * first and send it back... "Filled In Completely".
Damn gub'ment.... [}:)]
" TO THE RESIDENT OF:
'censored street'
WAXHAW, NC 28173 'censored-zip' "
From the United States Department Of Commerce... U.S. Census Bureau
So I started doing a tad bit of research...
Rep. Ron Paul, TX (R), has commented on this gub'ment 'request' in this online article... LINK
quote:You may not have heard of the American Community Survey, but you will. The national census, which historically is taken every ten years, has expanded to quench the federal bureaucracy's ever-growing thirst to govern every aspect of American life. The new survey, unlike the traditional census, is taken each and every year at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's not brief. It contains 24 pages of intrusive questions concerning matters that simply are none of the government's business, including your job, your income, your physical and emotional heath, your family status, your dwelling, and your intimate personal habits.
The Rutherford Institute of Charlottesville, VA...
"Issues Final Warning to Census Bureau Over Forcing Americans to Complete Highly Invasive Surveys Unrelated to Census" LINK
John W. Whitehead, founder and president of The Rutherford Institute in Charlottesville, VA remarked in a letter dated 22-Mar'2012 to Robert M. Groves, Director U.S. Census Bureau... LINK
ref: "Legal Concerns regarding the American Community Survey (ACS)"
quote:"There is no way that those who founded this country would have authorized the federal government to incessantly or perpetually demand, under penalty of law, such detailed information from the American people," said Whitehead. "Indeed, the American Community Survey contains some of the most detailed and intrusive questions ever put forth in a census questionnaire, concerning matters that the government simply has no business knowing, including a person's job, income, physical and emotional health, family status, place of residence and intimate personal and private habits."
In response, Robert Groves explained that the authority to carry out the ACS was covered by a congressional directive to his agency to carry out a decennial census program and to quote:"obtain such other census information as necessary."
Whitehead continues with a clear and concise comment that the Rutherford Institute would counter with a lawsuit on behalf of the American Citizens if the Census Bureau continues upon this path...
And as noted on yet another website... LINK
quote:In the end, however, the Census Bureau has no authority to enforce the laws that require the ACS be answered. The Census Bureau can press formal charges for non-compliance, but this is somewhat impractical given the number of forms that are not returned, or that are returned incomplete. A lawsuit would likely draw media attention and a public outcry that would very probably bring an end to the survey or end mandatory compliance. As of early 2007, no legal action has been taken against anyone for refusing to answer the ACS.
And finally... It seems that in May-June of this year... Congress voted to defund the American Community Survey... One of several LINKS to this information.
quote:The House voted to cut all funding for the Census Bureau's annual collection of data on the economic, demographic and housing characteristics of U.S. households. Backers of the plan called the annual survey of 3 million random households "unconstitutional" and "an invasion of privacy" and balked at the relatively modest price tag of $2.4 billion a decade. This action, along with a current move in the Senate to enact "compromise" legislation that would make the American Community Survey (ACS) voluntary, works against laudable efforts by Congress to eliminate ineffective programs and curtail government waste.
.
.
.
So... They can jus'kiss my * where the sun don't shine... [;)]
And if they want it back... Voluntarily...
I'll use it to wipe that same said * first and send it back... "Filled In Completely".
Damn gub'ment.... [}:)]
Comments
I'll never believe the government collecting information on its people is for the peoples wellfare so i mailed my last census by the slow brown pipe.
[;)]
The Post Office must have mis-delivered mine.
It was very much 'OFFICIAL' looking, computer generated and addressed:
" TO THE RESIDENT OF:
'censored street'
WAXHAW, NC 28173 'censored-zip' "
From the United States Department Of Commerce... U.S. Census Bureau
So I started doing a tad bit of research...
Rep. Ron Paul, TX (R), has commented on this gub'ment 'request' in this online article... LINK
quote:You may not have heard of the American Community Survey, but you will. The national census, which historically is taken every ten years, has expanded to quench the federal bureaucracy's ever-growing thirst to govern every aspect of American life. The new survey, unlike the traditional census, is taken each and every year at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's not brief. It contains 24 pages of intrusive questions concerning matters that simply are none of the government's business, including your job, your income, your physical and emotional heath, your family status, your dwelling, and your intimate personal habits.
The Rutherford Institute of Charlottesville, VA...
"Issues Final Warning to Census Bureau Over Forcing Americans to Complete Highly Invasive Surveys Unrelated to Census" LINK
John W. Whitehead, founder and president of The Rutherford Institute in Charlottesville, VA remarked in a letter dated 22-Mar'2012 to Robert M. Groves, Director U.S. Census Bureau... LINK
ref: "Legal Concerns regarding the American Community Survey (ACS)"
quote:"There is no way that those who founded this country would have authorized the federal government to incessantly or perpetually demand, under penalty of law, such detailed information from the American people," said Whitehead. "Indeed, the American Community Survey contains some of the most detailed and intrusive questions ever put forth in a census questionnaire, concerning matters that the government simply has no business knowing, including a person's job, income, physical and emotional health, family status, place of residence and intimate personal and private habits."
what are the intimate personal and private habits? Do you have electric, water, a stove and refrigerator. Can you hear even if you have a hearing aid, do you wear glasses? Do you have problems getting up and down stairs, can you go out shopping alone?
In response, Robert Groves explained that the authority to carry out the ACS was covered by a congressional directive to his agency to carry out a decennial census program and to quote:"obtain such other census information as necessary." Congress gives the Census Bureau the authority each year and approves the questions.
Whitehead continues with a clear and concise comment that the Rutherford Institute would counter with a lawsuit on behalf of the American Citizens if the Census Bureau continues upon this path...
And as noted on yet another website... LINK
quote:In the end, however, the Census Bureau has no authority to enforce the laws that require the ACS be answered. The Census Bureau can press formal charges for non-compliance, but this is somewhat impractical given the number of forms that are not returned, or that are returned incomplete. A lawsuit would likely draw media attention and a public outcry that would very probably bring an end to the survey or end mandatory compliance. As of early 2007, no legal action has been taken against anyone for refusing to answer the ACS.
No lawsuit filed yet but they are right in that no one has ever been arrestedor prosecuted for not filling out or failing to send back the manditory survey.
And finally... It seems that in May-June of this year... Congress voted to defund the American Community Survey... One of several LINKS to this information.
quote:The House voted to cut all funding for the Census Bureau's annual collection of data on the economic, demographic and housing characteristics of U.S. households. Backers of the plan called the annual survey of 3 million random households "unconstitutional" and "an invasion of privacy" and balked at the relatively modest price tag of $2.4 billion a decade. This action, along with a current move in the Senate to enact "compromise" legislation that would make the American Community Survey (ACS) voluntary, works against laudable efforts by Congress to eliminate ineffective programs and curtail government waste.
If congress cut the funding it hasn't filtered down to the payroll clerks as I got paid for last months work and the new list of contacts comes out on Thursday for the month of November.
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.
.
So... They can jus'kiss my * where the sun don't shine... [;)]
And if they want it back... Voluntarily...
I'll use it to wipe that same said * first and send it back... "Filled In Completely".
Damn gub'ment.... [}:)]
Someone will be around in about a month to personally contact the residence and ask that you fill out the survey or answer the questions you don't think are too personal or intimate. You answered at least one here, you have electric unless you have a squirrel in a cage to power your computer.
NASDA/NASS collects totally anonimous information that is used to help promote and improve agriculture. Unfortunately, we are sometimes confused with ag census or other census type data collection which is also used for agenda furthering information.
How an individual responds to such requests is usually understandable considering past or current political conditions and/or the possibility of personal info reaching the wrong hands.