scopes

jdb123

Just kinda kickin around some ideas and wanted your guys and gals opinion on a good varmint scope. I was looking at the Nikon 4.5X14X40 Buckmasters scope and it seemed pretty decent for the price. Any input would be appreciated. I'm looking to get a varmint rifle in the spring and wanted a good piece of glass for the top.

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jdb123

For the money what is the best scope

jdb123

What is the best scope for a 300 win mag.

jdb123

i have a friend who is as accomplished a hunter as anybody and he contends a $150 scope will perform {under the same conditions} as a $500 scope. he says that a tasco 3x9 or bushnell 3x9 is just as good as a leupold or redield. i thinks he's wrong but tell me why?

jdb123

Went to the ranges yesterday and now
kind of believe the sight picture:
clarity and realized magnification is
better with my busnell 3200 5-15
than with my leupold 6-18

jdb123

Question: which would you want for a .308 on an AR platform? A Weaver Grand Slam 3-10 by 40 1/10 Mil/Mildot OR

a Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40 1/8 moa MilDot

Both at Midway in the $300 to $350 range. Can't afford better now.

jdb123

I would like to know the best scope for a S & W 460 mag. I would like a good one but I don't want to spend a ton of cash?? thanks Mike

jdb123

[8D]Yo shooters, has anyone had any good/bad experience with SIGHTRON scopes -Rifle- Thanx[xx(][xx(][xx(][:D] JIMBO

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jdb123

Im geting a new gun here in the next few days [}:)] and it coming with a Leuplod VX-II 9-18 X 40. I dont know much about scopes should I leave it or get some thing else?.... oh and its coming on my ar-50

jdb123

What scope would fit on a Rem. 700 PSS, and how do I know what scope mounts or rings to put on?

I know almost nothing about mounting scopes what parts I need and how to find out what size I need, so I need help.

4wheeler

I agree with your friend for normal hunting situations. I have a cheap simmons on my muzzleloader and a Leupold on my 30/06. I just do not see a difference between the two scopes other than $300 more for the Leupold. I will probably stir up a hornets nest with this reply,just my opinion.

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deadeye08

me and 7mm has been haveing the same argument over the years and i found out a little secret about the scopes..FACT..the lenses that are in tasco and the lenses in leaupold are made by the same company..thats not the difference between the scopes..the difference is the coating on the lenses...that is the only difference in the glass..yes some scopes are clearer than others BUT...if you have a scope that makes you happy then thats all that matters as long as it shoots true...but i have used tasco for many years now and 7mm will tell you that i have a hard time spending the extra money for the big named scopes..because i have never had any trouble with tasco scopes and the one i did have trouble with i sent it back and they sent me a scope better than the one i had free of charge..most scope companyies charge you a s&h fee but tasco dosent..but thats just my opinion..but i think its a good opinion..as many others will..

Big Sky Redneck

Would you care to enlighten these folks as to why I do not like tascoe anymore?

Boomerang

For general hunting purposes the 3x9x50mm Leupold Vari X II class scope is as good as it gets ($250). I agree that for most hunting situations one does not need the expensive Vari X III class scope ($500). Further, the Nikon Monarch series 3x9x40mm is a great scope for hunting ($300). I really like the eye relief and reticles on these Nikon scopes. Believe it or not the Weaver 3x9x38mm is also a great scope ($140). To me, this scope is the best scope for the money. The Weaver Grand Slam series are not worth the extra money.

Lastly, sorry fellows the glass and reticles in a Simmons, Tasco, and other similar scopes are just inferior to the above scopes.

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martzkj@msn.com

Look at a good scope and a cheap scope side by side, you will see the difference. The question is do you want to spend the extra money for what you get? I rather buy a good used scope than a cheap new scope.

n4thethrill

you can really tell the diff. when you are looking into the sun or when it is getting dark i have no proablem with hunters putting a $100-$150 scope on a gun but when push comes to shove i would rather have a nikon monarch than a tasco

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groundhog devastation

If you guys want to see the difference in scopes, go to your local gunshop and ask to see a Nikon Buckmaster 3x9 and a Nikon Monarch 3x9. Same company,same power, 100.00 difference in price. After looking at both at the same objects at the same distance if you can't tell the difference then you need to leave the gunshop and go to the eye doctor!! GHD

Old hickory

Having owned one good Leupold and many,many, cheaper bushnell etc. I'll say the leupold was fantastic - BUT - it probably isn't 3 times as good so I sold it. I have several older Weavers from the 60's and they were expensive scopes in their time. Compared to a $100 dollar Tasco or Bushnell the modern day cheap scope is a steal.

He Dog

The primary difference in the scopes of various prices lies in the design, manufacturing, and in the coatings. If you put a decent cheap scope next to a top of the line model on a sunny afternoon, you are unlikely to detect much difference. In the first or last 10 minutes of the day, when the light is poor, then you will see the difference. When the cheap scope doesn't hold zero, then you will see the difference. You can likely get by with a Bushnell for years, if just getting by is what you want to do.

4GodandCountry

I cannot believe some of you people would even put tasco, bushnell and.
Leupold in the same sentence, I sure cant. I have all three and I cant believe anyone could even begin to compare them realisticly. I know that if the * hit the fan and I had to disappear into the mountainside I sure wouldn't stop to wander which optics I wanted to trust my life with. Tasco, Bushnell, BSA, Norinco, Leepers ect. ect. just dont compare to the quality of a.
Leupold, Burris, Swarovski, Steiner, Nikon, ect ect. Ever see a swat team member sporting a tasco world class, give us a break. Dream on Alice, wonderland is right around the corner.

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varmit hunter

The main statement you made was(Under the same conditions). High noon at the range they are all great.Take one from a warm hunting camp into below freezing conditions. Sit in the rain all day. Try to see a Elk back in the dark timber.

Most of you know my love for Burris scopes. Before Burris I had Leupolds.Lost in a fog one morning on my four wheeler, And running late.I hit a very large rock,Launching my rifle from the rack.It had a Leupold on it at the time. I ran over the rifle, And scope length ways. Thirty minutes later I killed a very good eight pointer. On returning to camp, I test fired it. Zero had not changed.

It is when conditions get bad, That you find out why good scopes cost more.

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JustC

I have found that the average, pull it out of the closet once/yr and go sit at camp with the guys, hunter, will not ever have to experience the difference in optics. This is the guy who rides the desk all year, and finally takes his leave of the city and goes to , well.......my county. then he drinks all night, has trouble getting to the stand on time, all the while pissing on his way across the field, then sits down and begins to move around, until finally falling asleep or having to return to "the facilities" with a hasty departure. This guy, needs a tasco or leepers etc. The guy, who like most of our members, who has shot consistently all year, at paper and other things, at different distances, and who has the ability to pull the long shots with a degree of success, knows the difference. This is the guy who appreciates the advantage his optics have provided, for he is the guy at camp who always gets a deer.

My problem with the junk, oooops, I mean lower priced optics, is that of clarity over distance. Good scopes filter heat waves (illusions) and are crystal clear when focused at max power on a target at 500+yds. These will allow the shooter, if he has the ability, to pull a clean shot. The cheap scopes, won't filter heat waves, and are often therefore, shooting off center, as well as having half the sight picture blurred around the outside of the picture, which takes away from range estimation as well as wind doping.If it is only a guess, it is still affected. Then there is the issue of retaining zero. The tubes are made of different thicknesses of metal, and the gears are as well. tactical scopes, undergo extreme testing on their gears to ensure they will come back to zero after multiple adjustments. Can you imagine a police sniper killing the hostage because the scope company put big knobs on a cheap scope and called it a tactical model? The high end scopes are priced as such, for a reason. It is lens quality and adjustment/zero consistency. The average 100yd shooter, can get just about anything to do what he needs, how far off can you be at 100 yds anyway?

A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.

He Dog

JustC and I agree completely on scopes. His signature line says all you need to know about buying a cheap scope.

Josey1

Bushnell has a 5-15X50mm objective model Elite 3200 which is an awesome scope for the money.The lens are fully coated,scope is fog proof and it just doesn't get much better for $225.I put it on my Remington 700 PSS in .308 and have fired hundreds of sub MOA shots without it shooting loose.The only drawback is that the Windage and elevation adjustment knobs are not in sniper scope design,thus you have to remove the caps to turn the tabs on the knobs.I thought I could get away buying an aftermarket siper knobs from butler creek,but they do not make them for the Bushnell scopes.They only make them for Tasco,Burris,Leupold,Josey

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Boomerang

If a scope has good clarity and contrast, and is consistent shot after shot, then it is good enough for general hunting purposes under 2-3 hundred yards. Simmons, Tasco, and similar scopes just don't possess those qualities.

BTW, one does not have to spend a fortune to have a good hunting scope. Conversely, there is truth to the statement "You get what you pay for." This is especially true when it comes to tactical and benchrest scopes. I have found that when it comes to hunting scopes, the Weaver 3x9x38mm and 1x3x20mm are the only exception to that statement. Fellows I promise, these two scopes are worth checking out for the budget minded hunter. BTW, I don't care for nor think much of their other variable scopes (3x10), or their Grand Slam Series scopes.

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pigeoncreek1

Let me start off by saying I totally agree with Varmit hunters post...I have had experiences with cheap scopes, tasco,bsa, and the like..problems from not metering correctly to fogging up under hunting conditions. When your in the field, that scope is much more important than alot of guys think... It doesn't matter if your new rifle that cost you a paycheck shoots 1" groups at 200yds at the range. Picture this...Its daybreak and you step out of a warm truck, Its 15 degrees outside and that trusty $100 Kmart special is mounted on your weapon, You get on stand, its just breaking daylight and here comes that trophy buck youve been scouting for 2 months...You pull the gun up and see nothing but an eyeball full of fog...bet that scope that costs $200 more would look awfully good right now...I have taken game in just about every adverse condition imaginable using Leupold scopes without a failure! I would rather have one less gun in the cabniet in order to have a quality scope on my hunting rig.....

You get what you pay for.....

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