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Germans Blame Hollywood, Satanism for Massacre

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
Germans Blame Hollywood, Satanism for Massacre
NewsMax.com Wires
Saturday, April 27, 2002
They say in Germany, "Whatever happens in America will be here two to five years later."
Well, it took three yours, almost to the day, for the horror of Littleton, Colo., to be aped in Erfurt, capital of Thuringia, once a celebrated center of Central European culture and learning.

Clergymen, psychologists, politicians and criminologists were aghast Friday over the brutality of the "American-type" massacre committed by a 19-year-old former student of the Johann Gutenberg Gymnasium, one of Germany's finest high schools.

In a country where weapons are by law hard to come by, he went from classroom to classroom with a shotgun and a pistol, mowing down 14 teachers (other reports said one of these was a secretary), two female students and then, when the police arrived, a patrolman. In the end, he killed himself.

Police gave only sparse information about his identity Friday, other than that he had been expelled from the school for unruly behavior earlier in the year. He probably acted out of revenge, a police spokesman suggested, because he committed his crime while the other students were sitting their final exams from which he had been barred.

But that an evident copycat-type bloodbath should have occurred at all in the country, and especially in the former East Germany, was interpreted by media experts and clergymen as a symptom of the globalization of horror.

It was Germany's second school shooting this year. In February, a 22-year-old man who had recently lost his job killed two former bosses and his old high school's principal in a rampage outside Munich.

Blaming the Media

Sources of the violence, some proposed, are in Hollywood and the newsrooms of international cable TV.

"I am certainly not advocating censorship," said the Rev. Johannes Richter, former Lutheran superintendent (regional bishop) of Leipzig, which is close to Erfurt. "However, somehow we have to get a handle on what comes across the Atlantic via television and the Internet.

"Especially here in the East, young people are very vulnerable to the violence that comes gushing over in news reports and in Hollywood films. Remember, we have lost the ground under our feet.

"The Nazis and the communists have had 56 years to destroy our social structures, which had taken millennia to develop. The traditional family is largely gone. Congregational life, too, has vanished for most.

'Virtual Reality ... Without Values'

"The only reality many young people know is the virtual reality they experience electronically. It's a reality without values, a reality where parental neglect has become acceptable, a reality that glorifies brutality, waffles about human rights but disdains human dignity."

Helmut Reinke, former editor-in-chief of * Zu, Germany's equivalent of TV Guide, agreed. "Eastern Germans are more vulnerable to the violent content of garbage programs than their Western compatriots. "For example, the most popular TV network in the East is RTL, a private channel featuring primarily that kind of junk. On the other hand, in the West, ARD, a public channel with predominantly quality programs, heads the charts."

Thus, a dozen years after Germany's reunification, Easterners and Westerners consume and digest information and entertainment in sometimes radically different ways.

In the East, said Reinke, many people still have not learned to make sense out of national and international TV news by reading background stories and analyses in high-quality dailies. Unlike their Western counterparts, Eastern papers tend to concentrate more on local and regional events.

Hence the inability of many young Eastern Germans to tell fact from fiction, right from wrong.

One Eastern German psychiatrist, speaking on condition of anonymity, described this as "a symptom of our warped collective soul.

"Our teen-agers are as helpless in the face of the barrage of violence that comes from the United States as South American Indians are to influenza infection," he said. "Their immune system is simply kaput."

Thus the wave of neo-Nazi violence that shook chiefly eastern Germany in the 1990s was largely inspired by the hate-mongering literature and Internet messages from American fringe groups, German authorities discovered, and eventually managed to jail, Gary Lauck, an American neo-Nazi leader from Nebraska.

Satanic 'Missionary Work'

A spate of satanist incidents, especially in Thuringia, where graveyards and churches are regularly desecrated, had similar origins.

At the time of communist East Germany's collapse, the Rev. Theo Lehmann, then senior youth minister of the territorial Lutheran Church of Saxony, told United Press International that U.S. satanist groups were extremely busy doing "missionary work" among young people in his region.

"Under the noses of communist guards, they have even managed to infiltrate the jails," said Lehmann, one of the leaders of the Christian resistance against East Germany's pro-Soviet regime.

"Don't get me wrong, we are not blaming America for what's happening here," the Rev. Richter in Leipzig told UPI Friday, "nor am I opposed to globalization.

"It's just that we should not only pay lip service to the globalization of values. Our Western values are a commodity that one should be able to globalize like any other commodity.

"That's why I feel that we must give the greatest urgency to glorifying those, rather than murder and mayhem, via the international media."

Analysis by Uwe Siemon-Netto, UPI religion correspondent.

Copyright 2002 by United Press International.

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"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

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    steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting that they look around for someone to blame,(hollywood) anybody but the person who did it. Shows that strict gun control cant stop this kind of thing. Not ALL the crazies are in the U.S.
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    royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes I suppose its our fault for Hitler too. I can't sleep good at nights anymore for all the rotten things I am responsible for in the world. I should never have taught Arafat how to shave.
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    offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, then, obviously the Brady's anti-gun violence group is barking up the wrong tree. They should abandon their interest in gun control, which the Germans had in spades, and go after Hollywood and Satanists (preferably Satanists -- who likes them?).

    The legacy of Handgun Control, Inc., will be that they misguidedly endangered "the security of a free state" called the United States of America.

    Maybe Sarah Brady will go to Hollywood like Billy Jack went to Washington. Only trouble is, her crony Democrat friends live there. Awkward as hell, eh, Sarah? Read my lips: "The Germans think it's Hollywood, not lack of gun control!" This may be my best laugh of the day. D*mn, it's good to have the founding fathers on your side... Pardon my French.

    -- Life NRA Member
    If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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    LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I don't think Sarah'll be going anywhere much longer.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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    AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well once again it is not the crook that pulled the trigger, it was someone else. And (no surpise here) gun control didn't stop them either. When are these gun control people going to wake up and smell the roses. They are wrong. This experiment in social science has ample evidence that they are wrong, and in the end the foundling father were right...."shall not be infringed".
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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    SCREWEDUPSCREWEDUP Member Posts: 60 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    WASN'TIT LESS THAN 6 MONTHS AGO SARAH THE SAINT BRADY MADE A STRAW PURCHASE RIFLE FOR HER SON, YUP, I DO THINK SO. POOR SARAH FORCED TP BREAK THE LAW I BLAME THE NRA & TV. HA,HA.
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