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Looks like they found part of MH370

bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
Hope they find the rest of it.
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  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like they got it now the flight recorder to see what happend...
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Apparently a part of the wing washed ashore on La Reuni?n Island, a small island near Madagascar. Obviously it cannot be a part of the missing Malaysian jet because we all know from reading countless posts from the GB core group that the plane is sitting on the ground in Iran and waiting (for over a year) to be loaded up with Yellow Cake and flown on a suicide mission to Israel.

    The internet watchdogs must have zeroed in on the landing site in Iran, so this piece of debris was released from a secret Iranian submarine off the coast of Reunion Island as a means of cover up. Luckily, Gun Broker members know the real truth and will refuse to fall for this.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Apparently a part of the wing washed ashore on La Reuni?n Island, a small island near Madagascar. Obviously it cannot be a part of the missing Malaysian jet because we all know from reading countless posts from the GB core group that the plane is sitting on the ground in Iran and waiting (for over a year) to be loaded up with Yellow Cake and flown on a suicide mission to Israel.

    The internet watchdogs must have zeroed in on the landing site in Iran, so this piece of debris was released from a secret Iranian submarine off the coast of Reunion Island as a means of cover up. Luckily, Gun Broker members know the real truth and will refuse to fall for this.



    I was thinking something similar [:D]
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Apparently a part of the wing washed ashore on La Reuni?n Island, a small island near Madagascar. Obviously it cannot be a part of the missing Malaysian jet because we all know from reading countless posts from the GB core group that the plane is sitting on the ground in Iran and waiting (for over a year) to be loaded up with Yellow Cake and flown on a suicide mission to Israel.

    The internet watchdogs must have zeroed in on the landing site in Iran, so this piece of debris was released from a secret Iranian submarine off the coast of Reunion Island as a means of cover up. Luckily, Gun Broker members know the real truth and will refuse to fall for this.


    It is a tiny piece, Mark.

    The Iranians removed it and set it adrift. They are now loading the plane with enriched uranium they are to send to Russia. Once airborne, it will detour to Tel Avive where it will be crashed.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Madagascar?
    It's those damn Penguins!

    [img][/img]Penguins.jpg
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,210 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Apparently a part of the wing washed ashore on La Reuni?n Island, a small island near Madagascar. Obviously it cannot be a part of the missing Malaysian jet because we all know from reading countless posts from the GB core group that the plane is sitting on the ground in Iran and waiting (for over a year) to be loaded up with Yellow Cake and flown on a suicide mission to Israel.

    The internet watchdogs must have zeroed in on the landing site in Iran, so this piece of debris was released from a secret Iranian submarine off the coast of Reunion Island as a means of cover up. Luckily, Gun Broker members know the real truth and will refuse to fall for this.
    [;)][;)]
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    now they can use a map of drift currents to narrow down where the debris field may have originated from, and where it all could have went, so they can look for more.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm not convinced it's from the Malaysian plane. Anyone that believes THAT is the only piece of flotsam that would have surfaced know nothing about the numerous honeycomb panels used in modern aircraft.
    Everyone wants closure on this mystery and are willing to grasp at anything that would solve the disappearance.
    Boeing will make the final determination if this part came from a 777. I'll wait for that.
  • wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    I'm not convinced it's from the Malaysian plane. Anyone that believes THAT is the only piece of flotsam that would have surfaced know nothing about the numerous honeycomb panels used in modern aircraft.
    Everyone wants closure on this mystery and are willing to grasp at anything that would solve the disappearance.
    Boeing will make the final determination if this part came from a 777. I'll wait for that.



    Agreed. It was a mistake to even mention anything before knowing beyond a doubt. Unless there's a data plate and/or a serial number somewhere on it or an attached serial numbered actuator I don't see how they can state it could be from MH370. Kinda jumped the gun here.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i thought there were airport photos showing the plane supposedly lost was actually a different model than what was stated to have disappeared??? supposedly there were about 20 top researchers of military items on board...that makes no sense to have all those types so close to china...love a good conspiracy...now what about hilde and bill starting a foundation to help low info voters learn the truth
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The photo I saw had nothing in it to give a sense of scale, but the piece did not look large enough to be from a Boeing 777. It did look like a wingtip section, but from a much smaller plane.

    Jumping to the conclusion that it's from MH370 is irresponsible.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    The photo I saw had nothing in it to give a sense of scale, but the piece did not look large enough to be from a Boeing 777. It did look like a wingtip section, but from a much smaller plane.

    Jumping to the conclusion that it's from MH370 is irresponsible.


    The photo I saw looked like a trailing edge flap of some sort. The scale seems appropriate for that compared to the people that were carrying it.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That could be, Don. I hadn't thought of a flap section. Thanks.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    That could be, Don. I hadn't thought of a flap section. Thanks.


    CNN said it was a flaperon, so it is nothing original to me.

    My experience is watching them from inside the tube through an oval window, and the shape is very familiar.[:)]
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's my "big jet" experience, too. All my front office jet time was in small planes: trainers and a fighter. None of them had wings as big as that flap!
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BBC is saying that what appears to be suitcase remnants have also been found washed up.

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  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So what? Anyone have a guess as to how many suitcases are floating around in the ocean?
    Lots.
    And one of them has Jimmy Hoffa in it.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,024 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    Apparently a part of the wing washed ashore on La Reuni?n Island, a small island near Madagascar. Obviously it cannot be a part of the missing Malaysian jet because we all know from reading countless posts from the GB core group that the plane is sitting on the ground in Iran and waiting (for over a year) to be loaded up with Yellow Cake and flown on a suicide mission to Israel.

    The internet watchdogs must have zeroed in on the landing site in Iran, so this piece of debris was released from a secret Iranian submarine off the coast of Reunion Island as a means of cover up. Luckily, Gun Broker members know the real truth and will refuse to fall for this.


    No, no, no... It's heading to the US and obama or hilary is going to make it turn around with their mind X-Men style.
  • firstharmonicfirstharmonic Member Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    BBC is saying that what appears to be suitcase remnants have also been found washed up.

    _84568558_06a0eec0-8afd-4405-b3e9-0c6843cb154d.jpg


    That's MY suitcase - Delta lost it two years ago when we were flying to Orlando to visit Disney World!
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by firstharmonic
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    BBC is saying that what appears to be suitcase remnants have also been found washed up.

    _84568558_06a0eec0-8afd-4405-b3e9-0c6843cb154d.jpg


    That's MY suitcase - Delta lost it two years ago when we were flying to Orlando to visit Disney World!




    Definitely not American Tourister luggage.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    I'm not convinced it's from the Malaysian plane. Anyone that believes THAT is the only piece of flotsam that would have surfaced know nothing about the numerous honeycomb panels used in modern aircraft.
    Everyone wants closure on this mystery and are willing to grasp at anything that would solve the disappearance.
    Boeing will make the final determination if this part came from a 777. I'll wait for that.


    If the fuselage remained in tact and the wings ripped off while the pilot was trying to make a crash landing in the ocean then all you would have is floating wings. The fuselage could very well be sitting in tact on the bottom of the ocean with passengers and luggage still aboard.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the number found on it matches the part number to the Boeing 777 and only one Boeing 777 is missing I see no reason to think it belongs to the missing Boeing 777 :)
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    If the fuselage remained in tact and the wings ripped off while the pilot was trying to make a crash landing in the ocean then all you would have is floating wings. The fuselage could very well be sitting in tact on the bottom of the ocean with passengers and luggage still aboard.The wings could also still be attached to the aircraft for the most part as well.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oh Dear Heavens! The collection of fiends known as the GB Core Group has been tried in the Court of Amour Propre, and again found wanting.

    A certain psychology presents itself, and it is fun to watch.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    According to CBS tonight the part does belong to a 777 aircraft. That and one bag appears to have washed ashore.

    Call me paranoid, but consider this:

    That being the ONLY fuselage part to appear and from looking at the 777 control surfaces, it is the ONLY part that the plane could lose and still take off and fly. Two * and two flaperons are on the plane. For it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down. It's position is controlled by the main flap position, not airspeed.
    For the * to be down, the pilot would have had to be making a controlled ditching, but then the question is why if your intention is to crash the plane?

    I may be giving the Muslims too much credit, but if I wanted to eventually use a stolen aircraft and wanted to take the heat off, that's what I would do. Until the aircraft is found, I won't be comfortable that it has in fact crashed.
  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skykingFor it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down. I'd say it's more likely it would have come off if it had been down but it's probably not impossible for it to break off if it wasn't down. Plus, suppose they deploy automatically due to airspeed being too low.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SoreShoulder
    quote:Originally posted by p3skykingFor it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down. I'd say it's more likely it would have come off if it had been down but it's probably not impossible for it to break off if it wasn't down. Plus, suppose they deploy automatically due to airspeed being too low.


    That's specifically why I wrote they are not airspeed controlled.
  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    That's specifically why I wrote they are not airspeed controlled.Maybe the main flap position is controlled by airspeed.
  • bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    According to CBS tonight the part does belong to a 777 aircraft. That and one bag appears to have washed ashore.

    Call me paranoid, but consider this:

    That being the ONLY fuselage part to appear and from looking at the 777 control surfaces, it is the ONLY part that the plane could lose and still take off and fly. Two * and two flaperons are on the plane. For it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down. It's position is controlled by the main flap position, not airspeed.
    For the * to be down, the pilot would have had to be making a controlled ditching, but then the question is why if your intention is to crash the plane?

    I may be giving the Muslims too much credit, but if I wanted to eventually use a stolen aircraft and wanted to take the heat off, that's what I would do. Until the aircraft is found, I won't be comfortable that it has in fact crashed.


    It's the only 777 that's missing.
  • bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All other 777's worldwide are accounted for.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The part hasn't been positively identified yet, but the evidence is mounting that it is probably from the lost jet.

    Even if it is from that jet, it doesn't make it any easier to find the rest of the debris. A year and a half of currents, storms, and winds could have brought those bits from almost anywhere.

    Except of course, from some secret airport in Wherethehellistan.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,508 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    For it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down.That's a pretty broad statement.

    Impact can detach all sorts of things and isn't all that predictable. In addition it was subjected to forces as it sank, then impacted the sea floor.

    For a definitive answer lab analysis would have to be conducted to determine the exact type and direction(s) of force that component was subjected to.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    According to CBS tonight the part does belong to a 777 aircraft. That and one bag appears to have washed ashore.

    Call me paranoid, but consider this:

    That being the ONLY fuselage part to appear and from looking at the 777 control surfaces, it is the ONLY part that the plane could lose and still take off and fly. Two * and two flaperons are on the plane. For it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down. It's position is controlled by the main flap position, not airspeed.
    For the * to be down, the pilot would have had to be making a controlled ditching, but then the question is why if your intention is to crash the plane?

    I may be giving the Muslims too much credit, but if I wanted to eventually use a stolen aircraft and wanted to take the heat off, that's what I would do. Until the aircraft is found, I won't be comfortable that it has in fact crashed.


    A big assumption that it had to be extended to be ripped off. The entire wing could have been sheared off and destroyed if the plane nosed in at a high rate of speed.

    Not that it matters. We know the plane is still intact, less one flaperon that has been replaced by one from the 777 shot down over the Ukraine. Iran has a complete airplane at the ready.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Not that it matters. We know the plane is still intact, less one flaperon that has been replaced by one from the 777 shot down over the Ukraine. Iran has a complete airplane at the ready.
    Why would they have to go through this HUGE cloak and dagger operation just to get their hands on an airliner?

    Iran already has a decent sized fleet of large passenger and cargo aircraft at their diposal.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,685 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Not that it matters. We know the plane is still intact, less one flaperon that has been replaced by one from the 777 shot down over the Ukraine. Iran has a complete airplane at the ready.
    Why would they have to go through this HUGE cloak and dagger operation just to get their hands on an airliner?

    Iran already has a decent sized fleet of large passenger and cargo aircraft at their diposal.



    Because we know of and can identify all aircraft registered to Iran.

    A 45,000 Lb. dirty bomb landing in Tel Aviv, delivered by a ghost airliner could have come from anywhere.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don, you ought to be a Hollywood script writer. Your capacity for fantasy is unlimited.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Because we know of and can identify all aircraft registered to Iran.

    A 45,000 Lb. dirty bomb landing in Tel Aviv, delivered by a ghost airliner could have come from anywhere.
    That makes complete sense.

    Never mind. Carry on. [:D]
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    According to CBS tonight the part does belong to a 777 aircraft. That and one bag appears to have washed ashore.

    Call me paranoid, but consider this:

    That being the ONLY fuselage part to appear and from looking at the 777 control surfaces, it is the ONLY part that the plane could lose and still take off and fly. Two * and two flaperons are on the plane. For it to have been ripped off on impact it would have had to be down. It's position is controlled by the main flap position, not airspeed.
    For the * to be down, the pilot would have had to be making a controlled ditching, but then the question is why if your intention is to crash the plane?

    I may be giving the Muslims too much credit, but if I wanted to eventually use a stolen aircraft and wanted to take the heat off, that's what I would do. Until the aircraft is found, I won't be comfortable that it has in fact crashed.


    A big assumption that it had to be extended to be ripped off. The entire wing could have been sheared off and destroyed if the plane nosed in at a high rate of speed.

    Not that it matters. We know the plane is still intact, less one flaperon that has been replaced by one from the 777 shot down over the Ukraine. Iran has a complete airplane at the ready.


    Since the fuel tanks would have been dry, had the wing been ripped off it would have floated, for awhile at least, long enough to be spotted by someone.
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