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Antiques vs Moderns
uftwms
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Why do some sellers feel its necessary to transfer an obvious antique handgun that doesn't fire modern ammo thru a FFL? Have encountered this situation a couple of times and would like someone to offer a reasonable explanation for it. I can afford the fee but now my FFL holder has raised his cost, its adding an additional 50 bucks. It just "rankles" me! Thanx, TWms
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Get a C&R license if you have problems with high transfer costs.
Find a new transfer FFl, mine charges $15 and I give him $20 because most charge $25 - $35 around here. $50 is indeed excessive.
If the guns you like are older, but not antique, get a C&R ffl, and for $30 you can have guns older than 50 years, or on the C&R list and sometimes newer, sent to you directly with no transfer fee and no more rankling.[8D]
Remember the recent story of the guy in NJ who was charged with possession of a firearm when all he had was an antique flintlock pistol?
As roswellnative said, better safe than sorry. Same goes with getting a C & R. Some sellers will insist upon going through a real FFL because they do not want to go through the process of learning the hard way what is and what is not eligible.
Brad Steele
"and move to a civilized state."
But that might be overdoing it a bit.
The puzzling thing to me was, the receiving FFL insisted on recording it in his books and calling it in. Conversation went a bit like this:
"Look, I'm happy to pay you your $20 for receiving it, but do you really have to call it in?"
"Yes."
"If I bought that inline muzzleloader you have on the shelf, would you call that in?"
"No, that's not a gun as per the ATF."
"Well neither is this."
"Maybe so, but I just feel like I need to call it in."
So what's next? Calling the ATF next time I buy a pocket knife?
I know what you mean,,but, ,,,and 50 is WAY to much..Buddy up to another FFL, mine charges 15,,,,course, I do business with him-
Just be grateful you don't live in the Demokratik People's Republik of Kalifornia. The cheapest transfer dealer I have found wants $75 & Turner's wants $125.
I note that all the auctions call for a transfer dealer but for many auctions that is merely boilerplate language they have in all their auctions. If you ask they will usually reply that it is not needed for the guns that don't require it.
I haven't bought any yet but I have managed to raise the final price of some. With the transfer costs the only modern guns I could ever consider would have to be close enough to me to be able to pick them up from the seller.
quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
I know what you mean,,but, ,,,and 50 is WAY to much..Buddy up to another FFL, mine charges 15,,,,course, I do business with him-
Just be grateful you don't live in the Demokratik People's Republik of Kalifornia. The cheapest transfer dealer I have found wants $75 & Turner's wants $125.
I note that all the auctions call for a transfer dealer but for many auctions that is merely boilerplate language they have in all their auctions. If you ask they will usually reply that it is not needed for the guns that don't require it.
I haven't bought any yet but I have managed to raise the final price of some. With the transfer costs the only modern guns I could ever consider would have to be close enough to me to be able to pick them up from the seller.
That really stinks. Not to make you feel bad, but my new dealer will transfer up to five guns for $25.00.
I hear you man. I got a Dutch Beaumont off the auction side, clearly dated 1878, clearly an antique, with known production ending well before the 1899 Jan 1 cut off date. Ammo nigh impossible to get. No laws in Ohio about antiques having to go to an FFL. Seller wouldn't budge, insisted it go to an FFL. Which I did.
The puzzling thing to me was, the receiving FFL insisted on recording it in his books and calling it in. Conversation went a bit like this:
"Look, I'm happy to pay you your $20 for receiving it, but do you really have to call it in?"
"Yes."
"If I bought that inline muzzleloader you have on the shelf, would you call that in?"
"No, that's not a gun as per the ATF."
"Well neither is this."
"Maybe so, but I just feel like I need to call it in."
So what's next? Calling the ATF next time I buy a pocket knife?
I won't buy anything from people that's to stupid or to lazy to know the laws of the business they're in.
"Obvious antique" has to be manufactured prior to 1899.
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OR A replica of, OR designed to fire black powder OR uses an ammo not widely commercially available.