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New to Inline Muzzleloaders

mackcranemackcrane Member Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
I've got my Pyrodex 50Cal. Pellets, Triple 7 209 Primers & T/C Cheap Shot Sabots. Two Pellets is Equal to 100 Grains of Loose Pyrodex, put the Slug in the Plastic Sabot & Seat on the 2 Pellets, Prime & I'm Ready To Go. Correct? I used to shoot Traditional but It's been 40 years ago. Thanks.

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  • jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You should have bought a real one.
    jwh5-15-17-rs.jpg
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds good. I use 3 pellets in my Knight .45 Cal with a 195 grain power belt hollow point.

    Tack driver out to 250 yds.

    2 pellets in my Knight 50 Cal with a power belt 225 grain, good to 150 yds.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mackcrane
    I've got my Pyrodex 50Cal. Pellets, Triple 7 209 Primers & T/C Cheap Shot Sabots. Two Pellets is Equal to 100 Grains of Loose Pyrodex, put the Slug in the Plastic Sabot & Seat on the 2 Pellets, Prime & I'm Ready To Go. Correct? I used to shoot Traditional but It's been 40 years ago. Thanks.


    That pretty much covers it.

    Good luck this fall![:D]
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
    You should have bought a real one.
    jwh5-15-17-rs.jpg


    Pure class right there!
    Simply beautiful!!
  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You might try a few different combos of pellet charges with a few different sabots, and or powerbelts.

    Two identical rifles may not like the same loads. Just need to experiment until you find the combo that your rifle likes.

    They make different grains of pellets, like 30 grains, so you can experiment.
  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,768 ******
    edited November -1
    I hate the pellets because if they are hanging around for several years, they are iffy at best to ignite.

    I also agree with Jerry that when it comes to muzzle loading rifles, traditional is BEST!

    Real black powder is good for a hundred years if it is stored properly.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use 100 grains, (two pellets) in both our Thompson Encores and work real well. We don't shoot over 125 at most, just cause.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,375 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought a inline muzzleloader last year at a flea market, I have not got around to shooting it, so I am in the same boat .
    I do have three TC's more traditional style 50 54 and 58 cal but have not shot them for 20 years [:(]

    jerrywh818 that is one awesome flintlock you posted a photo of I would be proud of also congrats on a fine looking rifle [:p][:p]
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
    You might try a few different combos of pellet charges with a few different sabots, and or powerbelts.

    Two identical rifles may not like the same loads. Just need to experiment until you find the combo that your rifle likes.

    They make different grains of pellets, like 30 grains, so you can experiment.

    +1
    My T/C Thunderhawk loves 2x 50gr pyrodex pellets with 240gr saboted hollowpoints (XTP does best). 5 shots at 100yds makes a 3/4" hole, and would probably do better than that if I was a better shot.

    Never was a fan of powerbelts personally though. My dad has had several deer run a ways after being shot, All mine have been DRT (Down or Dead Right There)
  • mackcranemackcrane Member Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This 1 came in a Rossi Trifecta I won on the Auction Side. I'm in a Wheelchair for now & I've got an Electric Scooter that I go about 2 miles down the Tracks, out of Town & shoot in a Holler. It did pretty good with 2 Pellets & the Sabots. I turn my seat around to the side & shoot Offhand at a Dead Tree. Checked the Pattern with Binoculars & It Weren't Bad. Plan to get a Traditional Setup too. Glad to get out & shoot some.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Savage muzzleloader. Shoots smokeless powder.
    I have killed 3 deer with the 250 XTP. Good God!

    Now, I am shooting at about 3,100 foot pounds, a little more energy than a 30-06.
    But the performance is unreal. I get a 3 inch ENTRANCE wound on a lung shot.
    The bullet does blow up but a big fragment, about 150 grains, stays together and penetrates to the far side of the deer.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mackcrane
    This 1 came in a Rossi Trifecta I won on the Auction Side. I'm in a Wheelchair for now & I've got an Electric Scooter that I go about 2 miles down the Tracks, out of Town & shoot in a Holler. It did pretty good with 2 Pellets & the Sabots. I turn my seat around to the side & shoot Offhand at a Dead Tree. Checked the Pattern with Binoculars & It Weren't Bad. Plan to get a Traditional Setup too. Glad to get out & shoot some.


    There is a guy in my neighborhood that I see fishing in the pond behind my house. And he is in a wheelchair. OK,... Then I see him yesterday on the sidewalk heading towards the lake and he is CRUISING. Then I notice it only has 2 wheels. It is like a segway but a wheel chair. I'm going to go talk with him next time I see him out there.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ANY muzzle loader is great. I have flint locks, percussion caps and in-line. The best one depends on what you want to do with it (and possibly how you want to look when doing it!)

    Yup, two 50 grain pellets are about the same as 100 grain loose BLack Powder or substitute. Myself, I use triple seven most of the time ... real easy clean-up! I'm obviously not a purist!
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andersk
    ANY muzzle loader is great. I have flint locks, percussion caps and in-line. The best one depends on what you want to do with it (and possibly how you want to look when doing it!)

    Yup, two 50 grain pellets are about the same as 100 grain loose BLack Powder or substitute. Myself, I use triple seven most of the time ... real easy clean-up! I'm obviously not a purist!


    Not a purist here either. I look at it as one more season that I can use to put mean in the freezer before they get skittish. I'm lazy and don't like to track and the meat isn't as good either if the animal runs, and around here meat spoils quick since I have to use a thermacell all the way to December,assuming we get a fall. I prefer DRT whether smokeless or smokepole
  • BikerBobBikerBob Member Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just don't neglect constant cleaning in hot soapy water, of seating the 5th or so shot becomes kinda difficult to push it down a fouled tube.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    "LOOSE" is way more accurate.I do not like pellets at all.
  • lksmith03lksmith03 Member Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd strongly recommend stainless, unless you're into looking period accurate. You still have to clean it, but it gives you a little leeway on cleanliness
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    I'd strongly recommend stainless, unless you're into looking period accurate. You still have to clean it, but it gives you a little leeway on cleanliness


    Right.[;)]
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
    "LOOSE" is way more accurate.I do not like pellets at all.


    Right.
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lksmith03
    quote:Originally posted by diver-rig
    You might try a few different combos of pellet charges with a few different sabots, and or powerbelts.

    Two identical rifles may not like the same loads. Just need to experiment until you find the combo that your rifle likes.

    They make different grains of pellets, like 30 grains, so you can experiment.

    +1
    My T/C Thunderhawk loves 2x 50gr pyrodex pellets with 240gr saboted hollowpoints (XTP does best). 5 shots at 100yds makes a 3/4" hole, and would probably do better than that if I was a better shot.

    Never was a fan of powerbelts personally though. My dad has had several deer run a ways after being shot, All mine have been DRT (Down or Dead Right There)


    Same here and never will be. I'll shot rock first if need be.
  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Brookwood
    I hate the pellets because if they are hanging around for several years, they are iffy at best to ignite.

    I also agree with Jerry that when it comes to muzzle loading rifles, traditional is BEST!

    Real black powder is good for a hundred years if it is stored properly.


    Any safe way to restore the ignition effectiveness of Goex 2f black powder??
    I have about 3 cans that have been sealed good and store din a controlled environment and it's slow to ignite and when it does it burns slow. Appears as though it might have adsorbed little bit of moisture, maybe?????
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Black powder is supposed to last just about forever. So I bet you are right, it has gotten damp.

    An a/c will dry stuff out, so you could lay the powder out on a sheet of newspaper in a room with the a/c on.

    You can buy a bunch of oxygen absorber packs for $13.

    https://pleasanthillgrain.com/oxygen-absorbers-500-cc

    Put several of these in a sealed container with your powder and I bet it would dry out.

    These packs contain super dry salt, and iron filings. We all know that salt will absorb moisture.
    The iron filings are the work of a genius. Get oxygen around iron and the iron gets rusty. It oxidizes. The iron absorbs the oxygen.
    Well, if you have moisture in there, and you absorb the oxygen all that would be left would be hydrogen and black powder.
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