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Germany-Bush=Hitler!

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
Washington-AP -- The White House isn't happy that a Germany government minister compared President Bush to Hitler.

Germany's justice minister (Herta Daeubler-Gmelin) told some labor union members yesterday that Bush was going after Iraq to divert attention from domestic problems.

A German paper quoted her as saying "That's a popular method. Even Hitler did that."

White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer calls the statement "outrageous and inexplicable."

But Fleischer tried to downplay the impact the statement will have on the U-S relationship with Germany. It's taken a hit lately, over differences on Iraq.

Fleischer says the two nations have a "very long and valuable" relationship.

Comments

  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Well, is he wrong to say that?

    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you keep posting this way i will report you to the home security
    SS .....

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Clinton did it- cruise missle attack on aspirin factory to divert attention from Monica. Reagan did it- Grenada war to divert attention from Lebanon foul up. The more the national dialogue is on Iraq the less it is on economic problems or Bush administration security foul ups that led to 9-11.
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    4G&C: Believe the excuse Ronnie used was that the Soviets were building an airport that would accept heavy bombers. We just couldn't accept that. After the war, we found out the truth, didn't we.

    Sort of pointless to hang a label on me since I have a point of view that few of the sheep follow. My point was simply that whenever ANY government has major political problems, one of the first decisions is to go find a war somewhere to get involved in, the divert the attention of the electorate. It works very well. Remember the movie, "Wag the Dog"?

    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    4GodandCountry:

    Save yourself some energy and dont bother. There's a fable about wolves in sheep's clothing. In this case, it happens to be a grade-A Kalifornia-class coward of a Liberal in a set of "independent" clothing.

    Remember, this is the same little puke who insists that a Palestinian who makes a suicide bomb from rusty screws and powdered rat-poison and blows himself up in a pizza shop is utterly justified and honorable.

    I think he'd be happier with a one-way ticket to Iraq (to be with the people he loves so), but he hasnt taken me up on that offer yet. Maybe we can get a board fundraiser going?
  • snake-eyessnake-eyes Member Posts: 869
    edited November -1
    One ladies opinion on Bush will not hurt U.S.-Germany relations. They have bases in our country and we have bases in there country. Our ties with them go far beyond that ladies point of view.

    *If there is one gun for every 7 people in the world, I'm saving alot of people money*
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Well, the wannabe-soldier is back from the playground. Have you gotten all your other little friends wide-eyed about your willingness to sacrifice yourself if you go to war--or are you still "waiting to ship out"? I'm still laughing at that. Thanks for the humor.

    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    Mish Mash-


    Berlin-AP -- Germany's justice minister denies a report that she will step down for allegedly making an indirect comparison between President Bush and Adolf Hitler.

    A German newspaper (Bild) reports that the justice minister plans to announce her resignation after the polls close in today's national election.

    The minister called the report "malicious rumors."

    A newspaper quoted her as saying that President Bush, like Hitler, was trying to divert attention from troubles at home by focusing on international threats.

    She denied making the comparison.


    PATIENCE IS : THE ABILITY TO IDLE YOUR MOTOR WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE STRIPPING YOUR GEARS..
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    W.T.F. My comment to Hairy of "your quite the liberal instigator" got poofed. If crap like this happens again I am history and so are my auctions that generate revenue for this site.

    If your gonna be stupid you better be tough !!
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bush = mabus the anty-christ.....

    Well if it was Hail bush .....

    Now is Hail bush Our savior and God.......

    Is his father truly satan?..well her mother sure looks like a beast!

    Son of the beast!???? only the Pope Knows but he is not telling anyone
    he got alzheimer (Or whatever you pronounce the aluminum in the brain stuff )

    HARRR HARRRR HARRRRR!!!!

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    interstatepawnllc:
    HAIRY can express his opinion that our commander and chief compares to Hitler.......thats O.K.
    You express your opinion that someone that feels this way is a liberal.......thats not O.K.
    I share your concern interstatepawn!!


    "Just my opinion."
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    I was poofed for what I said as well.lol.Oh well. I thought my poem was quite funny though and I hope you all were able to read it. Its invasion of the body snatchers all over again, only its not aliens, its liberal socialist viewpoints and remarks. Concervativism and defence of such, are unacceptable here apparently. Poooooooooooof, up yours.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • lurkerlurker Member Posts: 414 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's really funny is that the witch that made the "Hitler" remark is now being fired! (Not "stepping down" as was reported in Bild).
    Germany needs to get it's head out of its rear and understand how valuable we are to them.
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    One doesn't have to be a "liberal" to dispise war. Apparently, others share the same concept; for example, please read the following:

    THE CHARLESTON GAZETTE ONLINE

    BUSH'S WAR PLANS ARE A COVER-UP, SENATOR BYRD SAYS

    Saturday September 21, 2002

    By Paul J. Nyden
    STAFF WRITER

    Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., said President Bush's plans to invade Iraq are a conscious effort to distract public attention from growing problems at home.

    "This administration, all of a sudden, wants to go to war with Iraq," Byrd said. "The [political] polls are dropping, the domestic situation has problems.... So all of a sudden we have this war talk, war fervor, the bugles of war, drums of war, clouds of war.

    "Don't tell me that things suddenly went wrong. Back in August, the
    president had no plans.... Then all of a sudden this country is going to war," Byrd told the Senate on Friday.

    "Are politicians talking about the domestic situation, the stock market, weaknesses in the economy, jobs that are being lost, housing problems? No."

    Byrd warned of another Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. Passed on Aug. 7, 1964, that resolution handed President Lyndon Johnson broad powers to escalate the war in Vietnam, a conflict that cost 58,202 American lives and millions of Asian lives.

    "Congress will be putting itself on the sidelines," Byrd told the Senate. "Nothing would please this president more than having such a blank check handed to him."

    Byrd said his belief in the Constitution will prevent him from voting for Bush's war resolution. "But I am finding that the Constitution is irrelevant to people of this administration."

    Sens. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., both praised Byrd after he spoke.

    "It is the height of patriotism to ask such hard questions," Clinton said. "No one exemplifies that more than the senior senator from West Virginia."

    Byrd said, "Before the nation is committed to war, before we send our sons and daughters to battle in faraway lands, there are critical questions that must be asked. To date, the answers from the administration have been less than satisfying."

    Byrd repeatedly said Bush has failed to give members of Congress any
    evidence about any immediate danger from Iraq. Byrd also criticized his speech to the United Nations.

    "Instead of offering compelling evidence that the Iraqi regime had taken steps to advance its weapons program, the president offered the U.N. more of a warning than an appeal for support.

    "Instead of using the forum of the U.N. General Assembly to offer evidence and proof of his claims, the president basically told the nations of the world that you are either with me, or against me," Byrd said.

    "We must not be hell-bent on an invasion until we have exhausted every other possible option to assess and eliminate Iraq's supposed weapons of mass destruction program. We must not act alone. We must have the support of the world."

    Byrd said Congress needs solid evidence and answers to several specific questions, including:

    Does Saddam Hussein pose an imminent threat to the U.S.?
    Should the United States act alone?
    What would be the repercussions in the Middle East and around the globe?
    How many civilians would die in Iraq?
    How many American forces would be involved?
    How do we afford this war?
    Will the U.S. respond with nuclear weapons if Saddam Hussein uses chemical or biological weapons against U.S. soldiers?
    Does the U.S. have enough military and intelligence resources to fight wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, while mobilizing resources to prevent attacks on our own shores?

    Byrd said the proposed resolution Bush sent Congress on Thursday would be the "broadest possible grant of war powers to any president in the history of our Republic. The resolution is a direct insult and an affront to the powers given to Congress."

    Byrd also criticized Bush's request for power to carry out "pre-emptive attacks" and send troops to Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, the West Bank and anywhere else in the Middle East.

    "I cannot believe the gall and the arrogance of the White House in
    requesting such a broad grant of war powers," Byrd said. "This is the worst kind of election-year politics."


    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    You should have heard Sen. Byrds speach last year about his dog playing in the fresh toiled earth. The guys so old he couldn't even remember his dogs name and you expect him to be knowledgeable about forein policy and affairs. You better come up with a better example than the distinguished depends poster boy from WV. Personally, I wouldn't trust anyone who wears diapers with issues of national security.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remember the maginot line ,911 ,whats next persian gulf? and $7.00 per gallon of gas .....

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    I don't think either of them look alike!
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On arroganceand,stupidity and gross negligence they meet their mark..
    all of them were preventable just no one tried, what america will do
    as terrorist findout all they have to do is burn all the refinerys
    down to bring a petroleum enslaved world to its knees....???
    a few RPGs miles away and bang! a refinery or fuel depo bites the dust!!!!

    They have not done it because the arabs pay $$$$ money as protection
    to them terrorist but when they see Irak gone the inhibition will be gone as to finish off with the imperialist control on their people,resources .... The reasoning is simple ? why america wants control? Petroleum ! destroyed = america looses control no money-
    no fuel to substain the big satan fires BLA BLA BLA Arab diarretive..
    America cannot run With goat milk and lentills .

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • snake-eyessnake-eyes Member Posts: 869
    edited November -1
    What are lentills?


    *If there is one gun for every 7 people in the world, I'm saving alot of people money*
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    I believe our house pontificator was referring to the "lentil bean".

    If your gonna be stupid you better be tough !!
  • snake-eyessnake-eyes Member Posts: 869
    edited November -1
    Maybe we can't run our cars on middle eastern oil if they hold it from us, but I'll invest money in a Southern moon shine still for fuel for my car.

    *If there is one gun for every 7 people in the world, I'm saving alot of people money*
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Amen snake eyes, the government should mandate that the U.S. automotive industry become oil free by 2010. Then we could watch the parasitic middle east try eating sand and drinking their prescious crude. They can all go to hell as far as Im concerned, none of them appreciate the fact that men and women in this country go to work every day and work for money that is taken from us and given to people like them. Piss on them!

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    My goodness, 4G&C, you are one very angry person. Why?

    It's not what you know that gets you in trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so!
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GodandCountry- before the Gulf war a Saudi prince was quoted as saying that his countrymen would not have to die to defeat Iraq because American "slaves" were coming over to do the fighting. I agree, let's get off the oil and let the middle east go f### themselves, including Israel. I read several years ago that we have natural gas supplies in America which would supply all of our power needs for 200 years. In 1978 I converted a pickup to run on propane. My boss got a little conversion kit and it took a day or two, and I am not a mechanic. This was a Ford F150, it ran well on propane, not quite as much power. By 2010 we switch from middle east oil to US oil and natural gas. Like Rush says, the Gulf war was fought over "free flow of oil at market prices." Fine. We should increase the mpg of our cars and get off mideast oil. It isn't worth another American life.
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