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Now THAT is a bear!

thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
edited June 2002 in General Discussion
Pucker factor 9.9




The attached pictures are of a guy who works for the
forest service in Alaska. He was out deer hunting. A
large world record Griz charged him from about
50 yards away. The guy unloaded a 7mm Mag Semi-auto
into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The
thing was still alive so he reloaded and capped it in
the head. It was over one thousand six hundred pounds,
12'6" high at the shoulder standing up. It's a world
record. The bear had killed a couple of other people.
Of course, the game department did not let him keep
it. Think about it. This thing on it's hind legs
could walk up to the average single story house and
could look on the roof at eye level.

Don't worry about the bullet with your name on it, worry about the fragmentation grenade addressed 'To Occupant'.



Edited by - thesupermonkey on 06/24/2002 15:27:07

Comments

  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Awsome bear, I posted the same pics on hear awhile back, still cant get over the size of that thing each time I see it. Like I said before, I bet his 7mag isnt all he unloaded...

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I suppose it had to be, but it's a shame to see it dead.

    Clouder..
  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994
    edited November -1
    What's the story, LTS?

    I'm not afraid of the dark...the dark is afraid of me!
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Ye, Im interested to hear the story as well LTS, as it came from a friend of mine originally that works for the DNR.... I suppose my friend is a liar huh, and you are the one I can trust to tell me the real story..lol..


    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Also, in case you would like to check, the captioning is the same as my original post.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    LTS:

    How often do we see this on the internet?

    Suddenly the story is theirs; gory details, sweaty brow, palpitations and all. Amazing!!

    Clouder..
  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GodandCountry -

    Don't blame me for this, I'm just the messenger, but .......

    According to Snopes (the Urban Legend reference site), the photos, and the size of the bear, are real but the story is not.

    They say that the bear was shot by a deer hunter, not by a Forest Service employee, in November, 2001. It was shot with a .338 Mag, 250 gr. Nosler handloads, once in the head, followed up with two shots to the vitals.

    This info, and more, can be found by going to Snopes.com and typing "World record bear" into their search engine. (That's how I found this information.)

    Apparently, there were several large bears killed in a rather short period of time and several of the stories got co-mingled the way stuff that gets passed around the Internet tends to do.
  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Geez, LTS, ya beat me to the punch, again!
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard it was shot with a .223 round.
    Is that round good for other animals beside Bear?
    stir, stir

    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994
    edited November -1
    hehehe

    I'm not afraid of the dark...the dark is afraid of me!
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seeing a bear that size makes one respect those mountain men who only had one shot from their blackpowder rifles.....
  • squeakycsqueakyc Member Posts: 204 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quite an animal. I think I would have lost control of my * functions if I felt that bears breath on my face. As urban legends go I bet it will always keep changing. This is one scenario.
    Ten years from now they'll say a teacher was out for a walk in the woods, startled this record size bear having a dump, blinded it with his laser pointer, then killed it with a pen knife that he jabbed in its temple as it started to stand up from the log it was sitting over. The rabbit escaped unharmed. Love a good story.
  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You guys will beleve anything.This bear was killed when Bullzeye shot the tree down, And it fell on his head. Unlike bulz, These guys own a chain saw. They just cut the tree off of the bear, And took the credit from our boy Bulz.

    The most important things, Are not things.
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nah, it just looks like a bear, its really a baboon, that was in the tree that was shot down, yeah, yeah, thats it. Darn UGLY baboon.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    It was shot by an Airmen stationed at Eilson Air Force Base. It was 10'6" and yes, with a 338 win mag.And is not a world record. Live weight roughly 1200 pounds.

    AlleninAlaska aglore@gci.net

    Free men are not equal and equal men are not free
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    What kind of idiot would hunt deer with a 338 anyway? It would be like hunting a groundhog with a 25-06. Nice special effects perhaps, but exactly what I would deem an appropriate round.

    New Story:

    CAPTURED:

    Three Al quada terrorists were captured this morning while trying to enter the United States from Canada dressed like a giant teddy bear. Unfortunatly for them it was bear season and a local hunter opened fire upon the three would be terrorists with his semi automatic Barret 50 BMG. The hunter realised it wasn't a real bear when he spotted what appeared to be toilette paper hanging from the animals *. After further inpection he realised that what he thought was TP was in fact the turbins of the terrorists and they were all that was left of the terrorists.
    " They must have all three been wearing belly bombs to have blown up like that".

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    What kind of idiot would hunt deer with a 338 anyway? It would be like hunting a groundhog with a 25-06. Nice special effects perhaps, but not exactly what I would deem an appropriate round.

    New Story:

    CAPTURED:

    Three Al quada terrorists were captured this morning while trying to enter the United States from Canada dressed like a giant teddy bear. Unfortunatly for them it was bear season and a local hunter opened fire upon the three would be terrorists with his semi automatic Barret 50 BMG. The hunter realised it wasn't a real bear when he spotted what appeared to be toilette paper hanging from the animals *. After further inpection he realised that what he thought was TP was in fact the turbins of the terrorists and they were all that was left of the terrorists.
    " They must have all three been wearing belly bombs to have blown up like that".

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey quit crapping on my thread LTS.

    The caption isn't mine it came with the pictures.
    Regardless, that's STILL a Big Bear!


    Don't worry about the bullet with your name on it, worry about the fragmentation grenade addressed 'To Occupant'.
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    LTS,I stand corrected, apparently my DNR buddy must have recieved the formentioned version of the tail in question. I would still not say he is a liar, just ilinformed. You better jump down off that high horse before you fall and get hurt...lol...

    280 freak, thanks for the info. Pretty interesting site, lots of different info. Good post.

    Supermonkey: I agree, whatever the story behind the bear is doesnt detract from the fact that it is one awsome specimine and would cause uncontrollable bowel movements if it were to charge anyone...

    PS, I still like the terrorists infiltrating version best...lol...

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • ccasey612ccasey612 Member Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dosent matter to me what the story is. That is just one very big bear.

    If you will blame gun makers for every shooting then blame car maker for every car accident.
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    From the guys story, he said he killed the bear in Prince William Sound, not exactly trophy brown bear country by his own admission. Also from his post he said it was during bear season and the guy that shot the BEAR was hunting BEAR and his friend was hunting DEER. Must of been a boy scout going prepared for (what he was hunting).




    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    I think we're missing the bigger issue here!

    That bear might be the biggest, or he might not be. He might have been shot with a .338 Win, or he might have been shot with a 7mm Mag. He might have been shot by a forestry worker, or he might have been shot by a deer hunter.

    But whether it's the biggest or not, it's got my vote for the ugliest!
    Damn thing looks more like a baboon that's been pumped full of steroids and mutated into a Super-Baboonr.

    Which means that our very own supermonkey has found his only living relative!

    quote:This bear was killed when Bullzeye shot the tree down, And it fell on his head. Unlike bulz, These guys own a chain saw. They just cut the tree off of the bear, And took the credit from our boy Bulz

    Not to be mean, but you shoot a bear that big (or any bear that has a pain tolerance higher than your average pre-schooler) with a .223 and he will almost certainly become extremely angry and tear your head off with one paw.

    Bears have very thick skulls. You'd need a very large round and you'd need to shoot it directly in the head (probably a couple of times) to guarantee you killed it.

    This is what rounds like the .416 Rigby, the .45-70, and the .458 WinMag are made for.

    Not to say a 7.62x54mm soft-point wouldnt do the job, but unlike some of our members I prefer to use the correct round for the animal. Especially when just wounding it is going to cost you your life.
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...a little known bear factoid....a bear's heart beat is roughly 25 beats per minute. That's why a bear can slow it's metabolism down during periods of hybrination. A vitals hit may not immediately drop the bear since he has not had enough blood loss to go into shock and keel over. Many a mountain man made leathal shots only to be mauled to death by the bear they had killed.
  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GC.What kind of idiot would hunt deer with a .338?. Come to Texas, We have people who hunt them with .458 &.460.Most off them are from out of state, But we are not about to run low on home grown idiots.

    The most important things, Are not things.
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Personally, I feel comfortable enouph with my Browning 7mm mag that I could kill any North American game animal with it. I bet I could even kill the big beasties with a 223 cal. Yup, 800 rounds per minute from a stoner would definately do the trick.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Assuming you could change mags 27 times in under a minute.


    Don't worry about the bullet with your name on it, worry about the fragmentation grenade addressed 'To Occupant'.

    Edited by - thesupermonkey on 06/25/2002 14:46:24
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Im talkin about the belt fed stoner that had the 100 round box feed. Dont remember off the top of my head the actual rate of fire, but think it would be more than adequate.lol...and fun too...

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe ya could make him dance a little bit with the stoner before you shot him

    "Just my opinion."
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Or maybe the bear would just laugh at you and bite your spine in half?

    When a bear is mad enough to charge, the only thing that will stop it is to immediately and unequivocably kill it.

    Wounding it will not make it stop. No matter how much your rifle cost or how cool you think you are being.
  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Ouch" Bullzeye,,ain't you ever heard of dancing bears??
    I was just kidding, being silly, just like going bear huntin' with a full auto stoner

    "Just my opinion."
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GodandCountry,
    I'm the kind of idiot that shoots deer with a 338, why you ask yourself? Well, thats easy. I'm the kind of idiot that knows how to reload, and I know how to reload a light bullet that travels very fast in my 338. That makes me the smart idiot. Ya know what makes me even smarter? Not being the dead idiot that went hunting deer where there are big * bear like this one with a deer rifle that wouldnt even begin to stop a bear. My 338 also happens to be stainless and synthetic stocked, the only one I have like that, which would be good in an area where there are bear like this one. I take comfort in knowing that if I were to hunt deer in an area like this one, the first two shots would be for the deer, and the last one would be for self preservation if needed, in a caliber that will stop anything I would come across. I know you werent attacking anyone of us 338 idiots in particular, but sometimes it pays not to use such a broad stroke of the brush when describing what you believe to be an idiot. You may offend some of your friends someday.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Robsguns, no offense intended, I didn't mean to sound like I was passing judgement. I think its amazing that the mountain men were able to kill bear like that with a 50 cal. Hawkin Rifle and the Indians used bows and arrows and spears. I guess I feel comfortable with less power because I have faith in my shot placement and know that its more gun than the old timers had. I have never been in grizzly country or Alaskan brown bear, we only have black bear in WV. Biggest bear I ever saw was at Anchorage Airport. It was a gigantic polar bear, it had a plaque at the base that told the story behind its demise. It was the world record at the time and was well over 11 feet tall it made you feel little standing next to it. Best airport I was ever in. They had bison, wolves, parmegan, caribou, elk and just about every other native critter you could think of.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    4GodandCountry,
    No problem, you werent aiming at anyone personally, I know. I use to think that I had an ideal rifle in the 30-06, which was the only one I owned at the time. Then I went to Bass Pro down the highway in Springfield, and I stood next to a big Grizzly Bear mount. It was then that I decided it didnt make a darn bit of difference what I was hunting, if an animal this size could possibly be in the same vicinity that I may happen to be in, size does matter, and my 30-06 wasnt going to impress the girls, or the bears. For anyone that has the cahonas to shoot at a bear like the one I saw, for sport, with a gun smaller than a 338, except for some of the high power 300 magnums, knock yourself out, but I'm going to be right behind you, way, way, behind you.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Robsguns, I was watching the discovery channel awhile back and they had this guy on the show who was developing a bear proof suit. He had different models that he had developed and he was testing some of his newer versions. They were hitting him with a pickup truck at thirty miles an hour, it was funny as hell. The guy couldnt stand back up after he fell down though and he couldnt get in or out of the suit without help. Sounds like hed be sol out in the sticks by himself. Maybe he could redesign it to be like a weeble...

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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