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About cops, respectfully;

GatoGordoGatoGordo Member Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
If you needed directions or had something you felt needed reporting and you saw a patrolman parked would you pull up next to him window-to-widow to talk to him? For the LEOs in the group: if this happened to you would you feel threatened or apprehensive and if so, what would you do? Thanks for the input.

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  • D1D1 Member Posts: 11,412
    edited November -1
    I have had it happen many times and I greet them nicely and attend to their requests. The ones to worry about are the ones that don't want to be seen. I loved making myself known to the ones that obviously didn't want to be seen with me.
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    I live in a speed trap state-South Carolina. Living on the border I also drive in Ga. They are not oriented toward ticket revenue the way Suoth Carolina is. That said, I see a good many more parked patrols in Ga. I have no problem asking for directions from them or reporting an incident. The comment I made about South Carolina is well known to anyone who lives here. And nationwide too. I am in no way criticizing the individual officer. He has no choice but to follow dept policy
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's happened to me numerous times. If they appeared to be someone worth worrying about they would never see I had my pistol in my hand.

    I would help in whatever way I could.
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    Some Officers are more approachable than others. I've pulled up window-to-window to ask directions and to report things, never causing apparent alarm. But once, when I was stopped for minor speeding, the Officer was speaking to me through his loudspeaker while remaining in his car. I couldn't make out what he was saying over the noise of the passing traffic, so I exited my car to go back and talk to him, shaking my head and pointing at my ears as I approached. He damn near shot me as I was between the vehicles. It all depends on how an Officer interprets a given situation, and even what kind of a situation he has just come off of.

    In any interaction, a right thing to do is to keep your hands visible to the Officer.
  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    I pulled up to ask directions from a parked cop one time .
    That will be the last !
    Ended up telling him to kiss my * .
    If you need directions , go to the local fire dept .
    They will show you courtesy .
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last year, I saw a cop sitting in his car in a K-Mart parking lot. He was yakking on his cell phone and having a good time so he was obviously talking to a buddy or girlfriend. I pulled along his driver's side and tooted my horn. He glanced at me then looked away while still yakking. I tooted again and he finally opened his window and said in an angry voice "WHAT do you want?".

    I responded "When you're done with that phone call, you might want to call your dispatcher for someone to change your flat right-front tire. Have a nice day!"

    I could hear him swearing at his flat tire as I drove off. [:D]
  • anatomically correctanatomically correct Member Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    LEOs and firemen rank right up there with our military in my book. Not enough money to pay me to do their jobs.
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,613 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've flagged cops down and walked up to them while they are sitting in their cars.

    I haven't driven up next to them to ask directions.

    However, family friend that taught me to shoot / hunt would frequently ask for directions to where ever we were going to shoot or hunt. Kinda gutsy in IL.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,062 ******
    edited November -1
    The approach of a stranger without apparent purpose is a "Condition Orange" situation. 99.99% of the time, he has no evil intent, but you never know. That said, you do not let on to the stranger. You are just ready for whatever he might want to do.

    It always makes me nervous when I am approached so, but generally the person only wants directions or to report something. Once that is determined, the contact is conducted and concluded with courtesy.
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have done it a number of times. However, if you think SC is bad, don't do it in Baltimore. An out-of-town couple lost in Baltimore, trying to find way out of town approached a B'more police officer, were arrested for trespassing (on a city street).
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A few years back I was coming home one day from Columbia to my home town. 4 lane road and pulled up behind a state highway patrolman at a stoplight. His RR tire was almost flat. So traffic flowed on down the road aways and I pulled up along side him .Speed limit was 60 and we were both doing it. I was in the left lane he was in the right. I motioned for him to pull over. He gave me a weird look. I pointed to the side of the road , passed him , braked and pointed to the right side again. We both pulled over. I did not get out.. He approached the car and ask WTH was I doing. I ask him if I could get out and show him his flat. We both walked back there and looked. It had very very little air in it maybe 10pounds.. and was HOT to the touch. Blowout city.. He thanked me and I left.
  • WranglerWrangler Member Posts: 5,788
    edited November -1
    Just make sure to keep your hands in plain view. Walking up to a police officer with your hands in your pockets or behind your back is a bad idea. [;)]
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    no i'd rather have a root canal...the only time i ever approached a cop,he was apprehending a man and was loosing the battle along side the road. i stopped and ran back to them and subdued the guy with a couple of hard rights and slammed him on the ground..i thought the cop was going to have a heart attack so i used his cuffs and handcuffed the guy..the cop got all pissy cause i touched his gun belt to get the cuffs, ...i left them there and drove off...should have let him get his * whipped i guess[V]
  • Rocky4windsRocky4winds Member Posts: 760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have stopped to talk to cops sitting in their cars a couple of times. The first one was a disaster- I asked for directions and they were polite and nice enough, but had no clue as to how to direct me. I finally found the place about 6 blocks from where they were parked.

    The other time, I had been pulled over for speeding in my Jeep (which would have been a feat in and of itself) but I was positive that my odometer was on, and I knew that I had not been speeding. A few days later as I dropped my daughter off at school I saw a patrol car pulled over with the cop managing a speed gun, so I went around the block and pulled up opposite him and asked if he would do a speedometer check. Very nice, polite, and he had me at about 4 mph below what my odometer had. Yeah, I beat that ticket, too.

    Both times I pulled up opposite them on the road and rolled my window down, and never had a problem.
  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    pulled up to one in a parking lot to tell him he left his orange "go around me" light strip on while in a speed trap (oops! [B)])

    pulled next to campus police to tell them that a traffic light just off campus was "short cycling", I figured it would be faster for him to make the report via radio than for me to contact 20 people in city services before I got the right one...

    both said thank you and we went our separate ways, but this was in broad daylight in a little college town where nothing happens...
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just pulled up "window to window" with one a little while back. He was in a public driveway, using his radar on cars coming up a long hill. I just asked him what was the fastest speed he had clocked anyone from there.
  • txlawdogtxlawdog Member Posts: 10,039 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I always enjoy interaction with the public, a pleasant experience will encourage them to make contact with Law Enforcement in the future.

    The heck with crooks, but normally they are just regular folks asking questions, while sometimes stupid or rude comments they are the public I have sworn to serve.

    One thing I can't stand is a parent that says, "He is gonna take you away." I don't think that is productive for kids, they won't want to approach us later when they really need to.

    When folks have pulled up and I go into a heightened condition like earlier mentioned, I am prepared for a violent response in order to protect myself. They don't know it, but you have to prepare for it.

    Like I said, most are good folks, you just have to always remain alert and safe.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The training is: You never let the other person dictate the encounter.

    That being said, if you park in a position that lets someone approach you, you have a couple of options. Either open your car door, or draw and put your duty gun under a clipboard pointed through the door but out of sight.

    If I approach a police officer, I would do so on foot, with my hands in front of me and palms open. I would walk so that I was plainly visible, and not in line with the vehicle I just left. I would stop about twenty feet away, and let the police officer acknowledge my approach and either motion me forward, or walk to me.

    As for directions. Sometimes police are working an area they don't know (for instance sick relief). Sometimes they know only their beat, and where you are asking is not on their beat.
    Sometimes they carry a map book. And it would be particularly nice if they dragged it out and looked up the street for you. Sometimes they are backed up ten radio calls and down 4 reports and may seem short and curt while talking to you.

    But the main reason police are hired is that they can talk to people.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My advice to my children and their children has always been the same: Avoid all contact with the law.

    I also teach them if there is contact, be polite to the man and respectful of the uniform and say only what you HAVE to say.

    The guy at the local service station will be a lot more helpful than a cop anyway.

    Clouder..
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    Generally I hate when someone asks me for directions, for no other reason than I often cannot help them. People look at you like you are either lying or a complete idiot when you can't tell them how to get to Walmart, but they don't understand that I am assigned to supervise 20 counties. Out of those 20 there are 7 counties that I am familiar enough with the layout to give some one good directions.
    If I'm on my way to help out one of my guys in one of those 13 other counties I've got to look at a map or check GPS to know where the hell I am 90% of the time.
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dano
    Only time I get upset when someone wants to talk to me, is when I'm sleeping.

    If I'm awake....no problem. [:D]

    It's a little annoying when someone wants to ask questions about the law when I'm in the middle of eating too.
  • screwobamascrewobama Member Posts: 625
    edited November -1
    In the few times that I actually gave up and asked directions the LEO was no problem for me but then again I don't wear a do rag on my head or wear jeans 12 sizes to big so they hang off my *.
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by footlong
    I live in a speed trap state-South Carolina. Living on the border I also drive in Ga. They are not oriented toward ticket revenue the way Suoth Carolina is. That said, I see a good many more parked patrols in Ga. I have no problem asking for directions from them or reporting an incident. The comment I made about South Carolina is well known to anyone who lives here. And nationwide too. I am in no way criticizing the individual officer. He has no choice but to follow dept policy




    I live in SC and never have received a ticket in this state. If you do not break the law then you do not get a ticket. I live on the SC/NC border and my last ticket was in NC about 20 years ago.

    I am not a cop but with the way people are in this country I would be a little nervous if someone pulled up to my car to talk. There are no morals left in this country and people have gotten mean. To some of the gangs killing a cop is the highest honor you can have. You become a hero if you kill one. Unfortunately due to some crooked cops there are people out there who hate cops. One of the reasons I do not understand why cops cover for other cops.
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    The cops in my town are totally approachable. I wouldn't have a problem pulling up to one of them to talk to them.
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dheffley
    The cops in my town are totally approachable. I wouldn't have a problem pulling up to one of them to talk to them.


    We're not talking about a rent-a-cop on a golf cart at the trailer park, danny[:D]

    Clouder..
  • GatoGordoGatoGordo Member Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the comments. The reason I asked is that my sons' FTO dinged him a bit for allowing a driver to approach the cruiser that way, saying that it violated officer safety concerns. Not a big deal, I was just wondering what others experience was. Thanks
  • txlawdogtxlawdog Member Posts: 10,039 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What was he supposed to do? What was the FTO's suggestion? I think driving off might render a complaint or someone fussing about that.

    Two classes of thoughts in my humble opinion;

    1. Group of young people with bats and torches and a kill the commie cops sign in their hands? I probably am going to drive off.

    2. Lil old couple looking at a map like they just ate a bag of prunes? It is almost clear that they probably are not going to hurt me.

    I don't think it is that difficult to check folks out when they are walking up. I also always parked in a location that I could not get snuck up on, like in a corner of a parking lot, or something similar.

    I don't really care to eat out because of all the silly / stupid comments made.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by txlawdog
    What was he supposed to do? What was the FTO's suggestion? I think driving off might render a complaint or someone fussing about that.

    Two classes of thoughts in my humble opinion;

    1. Group of young people with bats and torches and a kill the commie cops sign in their hands? I probably am going to drive off.

    2. Lil old couple looking at a map like they just ate a bag of prunes? It is almost clear that they probably are not going to hurt me.

    I don't think it is that difficult to check folks out when they are walking up. I also always parked in a location that I could not get snuck up on, like in a corner of a parking lot, or something similar.

    I don't really care to eat out because of all the silly / stupid comments made.


    I was an FTO for a while. I outlined what training calls for. I don't think it has changed much in the 16 years I've been retired.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Happens to me all the time, no problem. But I live in a rural area Troopers in large area's may feel differently.
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