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Good load Data/mixes?

E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
I have already got a good mix from Saxon for a .357 Im gonna put together a personal notebook of good mixes.It doesnt matter what caliber round. What are your favorite handload mixes?Most accurate,hottest,best hunting load whatever you have had good results with?

Eric S. Williams

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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Which of the following: 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 37, 40, 41, 452, 458, 47, 510 do you want me to start with?

    AlleninAlaska

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
    -- Thomas Paine
  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Alright wisenheimer..lmao.How about that .40 and .41.I dont need any of those Dinosaur killer rounds you shoot :)What about just run of the mill like 30/06,.270,typical handgun and rifle rounds things like that.What about a good hot .44 load too special or mag.

    Eric S. Williams

    Edited by - E.Williams on 08/21/2002 00:50:57
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Eric, while I am sure that no one here would intentionally mislead you, be very leary of loading data from unknown sources. Also, what may work fine in one gun, may be seriously over spec. in another. Always start with a low published source and work up to the 'favorite, super-duper 5000FPS .380 ACP' load that somebody gave you!!!

    That said, one of my favorite loads for the .41 is a 270 gr. LFPGC over 23 gr. of H110. You will NOT find this load in any book and it is a MAXIMUM load and should be reduced by 20% and worked up to.

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Ok. The .41 caliber will include 41 Mag and 416 rifle cartridges. For 41 mag I load 21 grains of H110 under the 265 grain Beartooth Bullets LFN cast bullet. In my 416 Taylor I load 68 grains of IMR4320 under the 325 grain Barnes X bullet. In my 416 Rigby I load 104 grains of RL19 under the 325 grain Barnes X bullet. In my 430 JDJ that I no longer own, I would use 49 grains of H322 under the Beartooth Bullets 325 grain LFN cast bullet. That should keep you busy for a while.

    AlleninAlaska

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
    -- Thomas Paine
  • bama55bama55 Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I will again second what Shootist3006 said.

    .270 Win.--Win. case, CCI-BR primer, 59.0 grains H-4831, Nosler
    Partition 130 grain bullet.

    .45 ACP---5.5 grains Bullseye, 225 grain LTFP bullet, Win. LP primer.
    Prints the same as Rem. 185 HP in my Combat Commander.

    I would have to check my notes on the others, been a long time since
    I loaded any.

    Don't send flowers when I die. Send money now, I can buy more ammo.

    Edited by - bama55 on 08/21/2002 01:04:35
  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Safe bet to cut it all by 20% and work up or just what seems too hot?

    Eric S. Williams
  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Eric, my loads will already be below max in my firearms,

    AlleninAlaska

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
    -- Thomas Paine
  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What are the best most consistent primers?I have noticed with the factory reloaded Zero rounds the primers dont consistently ignite and I only have that problem with this peticular ammunition.They have more than a adequate strike to ignite the primer but it does not ignite the round.

    Eric S. Williams
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Eric, most books advise to cut by 10% - not 20% and cutting some bottle-necked rifle loads by 20% may also be dangerous. I suggest cutting by 20% for THIS LOAD because it is STOUT and may be well over max for some guns. I know if you cut the load I listed by 20% you will be safe because that load (23gr - 20% = about 19gr.) was my starting load when working up tp the one listed.
    BTW, the load calls the bullet 270 gr but they weigh 268.5 on the average. I get them from a little outfit in Oklahoma and they are HARD lead with a gas check.

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis

    Edited by - shootist3006 on 08/21/2002 01:38:09
  • bama55bama55 Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Eric, I have had good results from most all the brand names, Rem.,
    Win., Federal and CCI. I did have a batch of CCI's that had a few
    bad ones, that was about 15 or so years ago. I don't know for sure
    what brand ZERO uses, but have had duds with their .38 loads in the
    past. I have heard CCI is a harder primer than the others.
    I would check a good loading manual on these loads. I know in my
    manual the .270 load is near max, but Jack O'Connor loaded up to
    61.0 gn. H-4831 in a Win. case. Depends on what rifle you use. I
    wouldn't shoot my load in a Rem. 742/7400 auto. Though I have pulled
    some 130 gn. bullets off 60.5 gn. and loaded 150 gn. RNSP on it. That
    was a hot one!!! And well over max., but no pressure signs. Check
    around and see if you can find a loading manual from the 70'-early
    '80's. I have a Sierra from mid-70's and another from the late '80's
    and a good many of the max. loads were decreased.

    Don't send flowers when I die. Send money now, I can buy more ammo.

    Edited by - bama55 on 08/21/2002 01:47:06
  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The duds I have had with Zero were with .357 Magnum.I have tried to find out what primers they use but have been unsuccesful I even called and they were supposed to return my call and never did so I said to hell with it and stopped buying Zero.

    Eric S. Williams
  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    I avoid ALL federal products!

    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
  • bama55bama55 Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist, I should have mentioned that I used the Fed. primers
    years ago. Only use Win., Rem. and CCI now, and mostly Win.
    As for brass, I found that Fed. brass cracks to easy.

    Don't send flowers when I die. Send money now, I can buy more ammo.
  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    http://www.fireflyarms.com/fa/

    This might be of some help to you Eric.

    AlleninAlaska

    http://www.outdoor-o-rama.com

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
    -- Thomas Paine
  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Eric, I dug up this web site for you to look at.

    AlleninAlaska

    http://www.outdoor-o-rama.com

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
    -- Thomas Paine
  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was just about to thank you for the links.Firefly arms has cartridges on there I never even knew existed i never knew there were that many different .357 and .44 cartridges.Interesting reading so far Im sure this will be all the load data I will ever need.Thanks again.Another thing is I finally found those .577 T-Rex and .700 Nitro Express videos on the German Firearm video links you posted...poor arabs.lmao.I wouldnt mind taing a crack at that .700 Nitro Express myself.

    Eric S. Williams
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