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Thermite
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My wife has an old computer and she wants me to destroy the hard drive. Do you think this will do the trick. Think I might just us a quarter of a pound and save some for later.
(R ... There's an interesting website called pilotsfor911truth.org where I saw this article today. The gist is that chemists analyzed powder from the Twin Towers debris and found traces of themite, an explosive, and this wasn't looked for in the 9/11 Commission study. The findings were reported in this professional jounal article in April. We're talking a recognized professional publication publishing research in a scientific field. All of it peer reviewed, meaning findings were scrutinized and evaluated by peers in the field. No eighth grade educated cedar choppers, this bunch. Oh, boy. Sleep well. J. )
By: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James
This is a major breakthrough as it is a peer reviewed scientific paper which proves that 911 was an inside job. The international scientific community cannot ignore this.
Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, today:
"Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
The paper ends with this sentence: "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."
In short, the paper explodes the official story that "no evidence" exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.
What is high-tech explosive/pyrotechnic material in large quantities doing in the WTC dust? Who made tons of this stuff and why? Why have government investigators refused to look for explosive residues in the WTC aftermath?
These are central questions raised by this scientific study.
Author Professor Steven Jones comments:
http://911blogger.com/node/19761
Abstract
We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 ?C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.
The Open Chemical Physics Journal
Volume 2
ISSN: 1874-4125
I think im going to load some shotgun shells with that stuff. [:0][:0]
I think we need to send some very large potted plants to Iran to decorate their nuclear facilities.
where can i get some!!!!
To make Thermite...
All you need is IronOxide (powdered rust) and Aluminum.
To ignite it, you just need a thin strip of magnesium (burns bright white, so watch your eyes), the magnesium burns hot enough to ignite the IronOxide/Aluminum mix.
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Posted - 05/01/2006 : 10:27:37 AM
(get your grinder out + scrap aluminum)
zip- I would highly recomend not using a grinder (as in a bench grinder) to The porus stone wheels can absorb the softer aluminum, when you continue grinding and grinding the aluminum gets hot, and wants to expand. This can cause the stone wheel to explode. I've only known one guy that had it happen but it is possible, so use caution with aluminum and grinding wheels. A course file will do the same job with no worries of an explosion. It just takes a little longer.
Thermite is pretty cool, and really easy to make, type it into google and you can get plenty of specifics.
Watch the video again, It appears to me as though the end of the fuse they inserted in the Thermite was a three inch strip of Magnesium wraped in the fuse paper.
I've never heard that before BUT it makes sense .. along with
your personal experience ... I welcome the tip! Thanks! [:D]
Go to your local screen room fabrication shop, look under the radial arm saw, big piles of Aluninum shaveings.
They do not recycle this because it being so fine it takes too much energy to melt down. They will let you have as much as you want.
You will have to clean it a bit because it will have some wax and oil mixed in.
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11895 Posts
Posted - 05/01/2006 : 10:27:37 AM
(get your grinder out + scrap aluminum)
zip- I would highly recomend not using a grinder (as in a bench grinder) to The porus stone wheels can absorb the softer aluminum, when you continue grinding and grinding the aluminum gets hot, and wants to expand. This can cause the stone wheel to explode. I've only known one guy that had it happen but it is possible, so use caution with aluminum and grinding wheels. A course file will do the same job with no worries of an explosion. It just takes a little longer.
Thermite is pretty cool, and really easy to make, type it into google and you can get plenty of specifics.
It also loads up the stone so that it wont grind very well. I tried making some knives out of 4064 aluminum and ruined a couple stone. i had never realized they could also explode.
OK. Iron oxide pellets are available at any garden supply. One brand name is "Ironite."
Where can one get aluminum dust?
In what proportion are the two materials mixed?
Regarding the magnesium, the guys in the video appeared to be using just a paper fuse, and they didn't mention magnesium.
Durnit Nunn...
I forgot that... generally (by weight) you'd want :
2 parts IronOxide and 1 part Aluminum.
(A slightly better is 8 parts IronOxide and 3 parts aluminum. but 2:1 will do just fine.)
And yes - it needs quite a bit of heat to start the process.
An easy way to do it, is a strip of thin magnesium - allthough I've heard that a sparlker would do the same thing - never tried that myself, but it's possible I guess.
A simple fuse won't do it. and a detonator would just scatter the powder.
I guess they just use the fuse to ignite the magnesium - I don't know much about that - I just used a longer strip of magnesium.
You should be able to buy magnesium in a coil (spool??), just like a casette-tape - thin magnesium-band/tape.
Just roll out a desired length and ignite and it burns slowly with a VERY bright light. (noxeous gasses from the combustion - might want to do it in a well ventilated area)
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11895 Posts
Posted - 05/01/2006 : 10:27:37 AM
(get your grinder out + scrap aluminum)
zip- I would highly recomend not using a grinder (as in a bench grinder) to The porus stone wheels can absorb the softer aluminum, when you continue grinding and grinding the aluminum gets hot, and wants to expand. This can cause the stone wheel to explode. I've only known one guy that had it happen but it is possible, so use caution with aluminum and grinding wheels. A course file will do the same job with no worries of an explosion. It just takes a little longer.
Thermite is pretty cool, and really easy to make, type it into google and you can get plenty of specifics.
you can buy aluminum wheels....
...[:0] uh, makes some sense. Old unpainted cornice vents...or even new, unpainted, makes a cheap source for alum. Redironoxide, burns hotter I believe. Nunn, play around with mix...I hear it makes a great fire starter...even on wet wood...careful, I hear it's HOT...[;)]
looks like you started something with exploding wheels, screw thermite, lets go blow up a grinding wheel. [:D]
grinding wheels are spectaculer when they blow up, but not as much as a cut off saw cause you get lots of smaller chips. And if you are not the one thats using it, it just scares the bejesus out of the person using it. As for the grinding wheel blowing up, yeah it scares the person to, lol
blowing up a grinding wheel in a machine shop is just about as bad as leaving a wrench on top of a bridgeport. [;)]
Where do you get the Magnesium strips?
I got one of those little rectangular fire starters, which is basically a block of magnesium, with a strip of flint on the other side. Its a made for starting a fire if you are without matches, I found mine at wally world in the outdoor dept.[;)] I haven't used it for thermite.. yet,[:D] but I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
Thermite is great stuff to play with, if you don't live in town. Had a friend who filled a beer can with it, and lit off a small pile of magnesium powder on top of it, while it was sitting in the street in front of his house. Keep in mind, this happened at about 3 am. He said the Mg powder disappeared into the can instantly (of course), and a few sparks shot out the top, before the entire can and it's contents collapsed into a pile of *. Burnt all the way through the asphalt street, leaving an 8" deep hole.
LOL, well considering asphalt has a melting point of around 1200 degrees, i can see why.
...If anyone puts together a firestarter kit, with homemade "thermite", or something similar...you might not want to keep a batch over a year, not sure how stable it is,...[B)]
ALL this talk about homemade "thermite",[:0] is the stuff illegal/legal for a civie?
quote:Originally posted by lazerus
Where do you get the Magnesium strips?
I got one of those little rectangular fire starters, which is basically a block of magnesium, with a strip of flint on the other side. Its a made for starting a fire if you are without matches, I found mine at wally world in the outdoor dept.[;)] I haven't used it for thermite.. yet,[:D] but I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
It WOULD work...
You probably just don't want to be THAT close to the thermite when it ignites.. [:D]