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Steyr Scout
Gene B.
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Know that I have a pretty good idea on what shotgun to get, I need a good hunting/tactical rifle, I was looking at local shop and saw a Steyr Scout in .308, by the way about how much does it cost for cheap .308 plinking ammo, where can I buy it? Any thoughts on this rifle? Is there any other rifle you would suggest?
PS, the owner said he would throw in 2 new mags and a used leopold scope for an extra $185 plus tax.....good deal?
PS, the owner said he would throw in 2 new mags and a used leopold scope for an extra $185 plus tax.....good deal?
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A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
If I knew then, what I know now.
If I was going to get a steyr scout it would have to be in the .376steyr, and I'd have to really go on some wild hunting trips with it...
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
Edited by - gene B. on 08/30/2002 23:14:14
I can tell you that the Steyr Scout is plenty fine and you won't need another rifle once you got that baby =o) Not even for long shots.
I bought mine a little while back, yup - it's a little pricy, but it's better than almost every other rifle I've ever shot.
I won't buy another rifle for hunting, that's for sure. I've got what I need.
Have a looksie at http://www.steyrscout.org
You will get a good look at what you'd be buying, if you deside to try one =o)
Great info and pictures of the Scout is found there.
I can definately recomend it - have shot matchbox size groups at 120metres (390feet or 130yards) with standard huntingammo and a nice quality scope & mounts.
Maybe a lot of rifles can do that trick, but heat-related shifting of bulletplacement will be a SMALL factor with this one.
Maybe you could convince him into putting the high-capacity kit on it instead of the two standard mags and the two he offered you (which are probably 5 shot-mags).
The HC-kit has 10 shots instead =o)
For hunting, the two 5-shot mags are plenty, and yes - 5 and 10 shot mags do fit in the buttstock. (the spare magazine is held there)
At the homepage I refered to - you'll find that it keeps good hits at buffalo-targets at 1100yards. even with that short barrel.
That was shown at a gunshow somewhere in the US.
Yes, it look a little like a bunch of plastic - but once you've tried it, you'd probably want one.
That's all I can say for sure, a couple of friends have tried mine on for size and loved it. One might order one and sell his Sig Sauer 308Win rifle.
The steyr Scout comes in (or will) .223Rem, .243Win, 308Win, 7mm-08 and .376Steyr.
And I believe that's both the tactical and standard version, if the tactical isn't just .223Rem. (5.56Nato).
Hey Pickenup :
The bipod works nicely, also on uneven ground. It's designed to be able to tilt sideways to compensate for uneven ground.
But if you'd want more steady bipods like steel-bipods, I believe they can be mounted at the UIT-rail under the barrel.
I'll try to borrow a dig.cam. and post a picture of it. =o)
Or mail you a picture.
I love my silenced .22 Anshutz rifle =o) Now also my Steyr Scout in .308W. ;o_ (Got a Schmidt&Bender 1.5-6*42 on it..)
Those guns are YUMMMYYYY !
If I knew then, what I know now.
Geez fast answers eh..??
I don't feel the Scout kicks as for instance a 12 gauge with standard loads.
If you can shoot a 12 gauge, you'd like the Scout just as well. (don't shoot a 12 gauge in prone!!! ouch, a "friend" fooled me into trying it..)
Yes, trigger, bolt, mags work smoothly right out of the box.
Some might want a trigger-adjustment, but the factory setting suits me just fine. Smooth, delicate - YAWZA!!
After having shot it for some time now, there's no doubt when the shot goes off. And it stays the same every time.
If you have a chance at it - try one out. Borrow one or something.
Just don't disregard it because it looks like plastic - Steyr is better at stocks than for instance Ruger.
Can also recomend Schmidt & Bender scopes, even if they are in the 800$ range.
=o)
I hope you all at least try one at some point in life.
Definately better sooner than later.
Regards
Peter E J.
Greenland.
I love my silenced .22 Anshutz rifle =o) Now also my Steyr Scout in .308W. ;o_ (Got a Schmidt&Bender 1.5-6*42 on it..)
Those guns are YUMMMYYYY !
While Cooper was convinced of the idea that his Scout should have the "best" designed bolt action in the world -- the Mauser -- others have said the concept is spoiled by the old-fashioned action and would have much preferred the Scout built in semi-auto. The Springfield M1A Scout answers those people's wish fairly nicely.
You would have to go back to the writings of Jeff Cooper to discover just what he thought it was ideal for, since it was his idea of the ideal rifle. Back issues of GUNS & AMMO are likely to produce the most information on his Scout concept, in the years before anyone had produced such a gun.
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"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
When I sold my Stoner SR-25, the guy that bought it emailed me complaining that it would only shoot a 2" group at 100 yards, I asked him what ammo he was using and he said South African .308, I told him to read the manual, its designed to shoot the Federal Gold Match 168grain ... buy a box and try it ... he did and was amazed at the difference ... groups were under 1/2". So a word to the wise, if you want anything hi-performance, be sure you can afford to feed it properly. I never could understand why someone would pay that kind of money for a hi-performance firearm then load it with cheap surplus ammo ... it will never give you the performance its capable of (or that you'll expect from it) with cheap ammo, the consistency of bullet weight, powder charge yada yada yada just isn't there ... which are major factors in performance/precision shooting.
Kind like going out and buying a Ferrari, then putting the cheapest gas you can find to power it ...
BTW-
I have a Steyr SSG 69, an early predecessor to the current crop of Steyr bolt guns ... you won't be disappointed ...
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Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
I don't know about the Scout, there are a couple other companies also making some good match ammo now also using the 168 ... Black Hills comes to mind, however since I reload I don't buy it. I'm sure there are performance comparisons available from Steyr using different factory ammo ... or at least there should be. With the Stoner, it said right in the manual that it was designed around the Federal Gold Match cartridge ... right down to the 1 in 11.25" barrel twist ...
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Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
I suppose as long as you accept the limitations of your ammo it would be ok to practice with what ever you want ... being a "reloader", I always practice with what I shoot in competition, it doesn't cost me anything but a little more time to shoot "the good stuff" ... and I'm guilty of spending more time when preparing ammo for a match, hand weighing 100's of bullets to get 84 that are all plus or minus .02 grains of each other(thats the limitation of my digital scale), weighing each charge and all the other little stuff; for practice I just run it through my Dillon but with the right load I still get sub-moa even for practice.
Just keep in mind the limitations of the ammo your using, if a 2" group is the best it will do bagged up on the bench, don't expect it to do better.
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Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
I occurs to me to ask if the Scout is really a very useful rifle or if it is just cool. It is a rather tactical looking thing, and I wonder how much of its appeal is generated by that fact. It does seem functional, but I would have to be like Nanoq and not buy another rifle if I laid out $1500 for one, and that just ain't gonna happen.
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
But growing up in Denmark, started out at european huntinggrounds and having tried out Greenlandic too - I'd say that the Steyr Scout covers anything you'd encounter in Europe.
I'd say that close distance hunting in woods, longer shots at open terrain and long shots in Norway and Sweeden would also be covered nicely with this rifle.
Having the 1:12 rate of twist in .308 (1:10 in .223Rem), it is recomended to use around 165-168grains bullets.
However, 125grains matchbullets also give incredible groupings.
The optimum for hunting would be 165-168 grains.
I have tried the Federal cartridges, soft point with BoatTail.
They were the ones I shot matchbox groupings with at 120metres.
The factory tests the rifles with just about the same ammo, Federal Match 168Grains.
To the question, if it's usefull or just cool - I'd definately say BOTH !!!
It's short, just about 101cm's long (about 39"), it's lightweight about 3 - 3.2kg's 6.6-7lb's, but doesn't kick much in spite of that.
Overall - I'd say that I LUUURWE IT.!!!
and I still won't need another rifle... for hunting, maybe something fun for practising or just for fun. =o)
As stated in the homepage I mentioned - 10" bulletgroupings have been made at 1100yards with the Scout.
Wether this is true - I can't say, as I haven't tried it.
So as it comes to precision - it's around or equal to what could be expected from a sniper-rifle/SSG-type or heavy barrel.
At least that's what I think.
There is a difference between Steyr Scout and Steyr Scout Tactical - the tactical version has adjustable buttplate and cheekrest.
other than that - I don't quite know the difference.
When it comes to looks between Scout and Scout Tactical - tactical have darkened bolt/non-glare bolt and black stock. I believe it's got a little bit heavier barrel as well.
Latest news I just heard from the guy I bought it through.
After he borrowed it - he wants one.
After a friend of his saw it - he wants one.
After that friend of his told it to some other - he wants one.
I know for a fact, that they have ordered 3 more. Saw the order right before he faxed it. =o)
A girlfriend who's into hunting borrowed it, because her LeverAction 30-30 with scope crapped out on her - sticking two bullets below the arm that lifts the bullet to chamber. She might want one, but it's too pricy for her right now.
Yes it might be a cultural thingy.
But if I find something that appeal to me - I buy it.
But for hunting, there will only be the .308Win Scout with it's Leupold QRW rings and Schmidt&Bender scope.
I might buy more QRW rings - have a varmint type long range scope and a red-dot for hunting in woods. =o)
I guess I'll spend my money on different types of scopes and match grade or premium grade ammo from now on.
Many of your questions could be answered through www.steyrscout.org
Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
Greenland.