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anyone want to invest in ethanol???
Spartacus
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I'm nearing completion of my ethanol fuel plant.
using fuel grade tower stills, each capable of 20 gallons 96% pure ETOH per 3 days from corn.
we might have to initially sell to "other markets"[;)] to raise expansion capital, but there is a huge market for the product.but i need investors.
here's the deal:
for $20K you get a 12 foot tower still in your name. I provide all the supplies to produce the alcohol in your still. you get 35% of the selling price of EVERY batch from your for the life of the still (30-50 years). at 2000 gallons per year, per still you are looking at $7000 per year, for the life of the still!!
I only have room for 50 tower stills currently, but if there is enough interest i will open another property.the first 5 stills are mine. 45 more are available. but they won't last long at this price.
larger investments/partnerships may be available.
tom
well, if you think about it, it really is viable!!
[;)]
using fuel grade tower stills, each capable of 20 gallons 96% pure ETOH per 3 days from corn.
we might have to initially sell to "other markets"[;)] to raise expansion capital, but there is a huge market for the product.but i need investors.
here's the deal:
for $20K you get a 12 foot tower still in your name. I provide all the supplies to produce the alcohol in your still. you get 35% of the selling price of EVERY batch from your for the life of the still (30-50 years). at 2000 gallons per year, per still you are looking at $7000 per year, for the life of the still!!
I only have room for 50 tower stills currently, but if there is enough interest i will open another property.the first 5 stills are mine. 45 more are available. but they won't last long at this price.
larger investments/partnerships may be available.
tom
well, if you think about it, it really is viable!!
[;)]
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Now, if you were planning to be licensed as a distiller of ethanol for human consumption, I might be on board. Alcohol has a much better purpose than burning up in an engine.
Got buyers lined up that will purchase in small amounts?
Gasoline is for washing parts.
Nitro is for racing.
It is no longer "processing".
If you had $20,000 which would be a better investment, and ethanol startup or stock in the Evil Empire (ADM)?
Clearly , the better investment is in All the Devils Men. There is a guaranteed return.
Startups go out of business in 10, 15 years and get bought up by the big boys.
Another Damn Mess will be buys up score of these little plants in a few years. (yeah this idea is mom and pop idea) There was one of these down the road a few years ago too. It's a machine shed now.
I invest 20 cents a gallon extra to get gasoline without ethanol.
Now, if you were planning to be licensed as a distiller of ethanol for human consumption, I might be on board. Alcohol has a much better purpose than burning up in an engine.
around here it don't cost more to get gas than gasahol. There are 2 stations that I know of around here that have gas one is .06 higher than the others I pass (but is the same as the other station in that town that has gasahol) and the other is actually a few cents cheaper but i only go by it if going to the inlaws or the lease.
for both of my vehicles 10% ethanol means 10-15% fewer MPG than gasoline, so it's a losing proposition for me to use gasahol. besides ethanol is for drinking not motor fuel
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Are you sure your numbers are right, or is this a joke? At 2,000 gallons per year with ethanol going for about $2.25 per gallon, I come up with $4,500 not $7,000 and you get 65% of that.
Got buyers lined up that will purchase in small amounts?
You forget about the government check you get every year?
quote:Originally posted by hunter86004
Are you sure your numbers are right, or is this a joke? At 2,000 gallons per year with ethanol going for about $2.25 per gallon, I come up with $4,500 not $7,000 and you get 65% of that.
Got buyers lined up that will purchase in small amounts?
You forget about the government check you get every year?
If you're talking about the subsidy, it's only $.45/gal, and I believe it expired at the end of Dec. It may be(likely) restarted, but I don't believe its happened yet.
I agree about the proper use of ethanol. Where I live there is one outlet for real gasoline, and the owner has to have it trucked in from Oklahoma. It costs more, but it's worth it. There are lots of real gasoline outlets in Oklahoma.
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because ethanol is corrosive and hygroscopic the ethanol is only blended into the gas when it is pumped from the tanker. the fuel is not shipped with the ethanol mixed into it
"SPARTACUS DANIELS WHITE WHISKEY"[;)][:D][;)]
You need to read the security offering laws, both state and Federal.
Ethanol in My Fuel - BAD!
Better use of corn = food.
Enough said.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Simple actually.
(1) Whoever was receiving the subsidy raises the price to make up for the lost subsidy.
(2) Ethanol is mandated to be added to gasoline.
(3) Refiners/suppliers have to add it at whatever the cost.
(4) Refiners/suppliers pass the added cost off to the consumer.
i understand.
this past year i started crop sharing some of my land to grow alfalfa and feed corn.
it's with the same guy i've bought alfalfa from for 8 years.
he's still charging me $80 per 1700# round bale, DELIVERED!
first planing got 10 bales, which quickly shipped to you guys in texas. $180/bale.
there's guys out here that got out of feed and into ethanol corn 3 yrs ago. they are kicking themselves right now[B)]
but, back to my plant....
i'm starting out small. local sales in small amounts, like 1 gallon.
cash and carry[;)]
cash and carry"
I'm kinda curious as to why anyone would be buying a gallon of ethanol. I believe the Feds are going to make damn sure you denature it with gasoline, or some such, so it can't be used for drinking.