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  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    McCain warns Trump on how to be a RINO, poser, has been, wanna be??

    That POS, needs to go away, as much as Obama, needs to go away.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I mean really: Would anybody in their right mind even listen to what McLame would have to say.

    When was McLame right about anything?
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How did he even win his election or did he.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,526 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was never in the military. Having said that, I do not know if these torture treatments work. I do respect McClain for his service to our country and will not beat the man down. He knows more then I ever will, when it comes to treatment of a captured prisoner. I do know that I don't care for him as a politician. As far as that goes, he is a not a fan favorite with us Republicans. Oakie
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,159 ******
    edited November -1
    There was a time I really liked McCain,but that hasn't been anytime recent. He is no longer in position to warn anybody.
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    McCain should remain silent like he did when he failed to support our man Trump...
    "What is truth?'
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
    McCain should remain silent like he did when he failed to support our man Trump...




    Yes. Absolutely right.
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At one time I considered McCain a hero and Now I think of him as a dud and should have retired.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,468 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    McCain deserved and got all my respect as a pilot and a POW.

    He deserves and gets none as a politician.

    No man is good at everything. He got elected on his military record but soon proved that he wasn't suited to his new career. Why the people of Arizona keep electing him, I cannot fathom. Except that Arizona continues to turn more and more liberal as the years go by. The rotten apple of California keeps spreading its poison, I guess.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    McCain deserved and got all my respect as a pilot and a POW.

    He deserves and gets none as a politician.

    No man is good at everything. He got elected on his military record but soon proved that he wasn't suited to his new career. Why the people of Arizona keep electing him, I cannot fathom. Except that Arizona continues to turn more and more liberal as the years go by. The rotten apple of California keeps spreading its poison, I guess.


    My sentiments exactly Sir.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    McCain deserved and got all my respect as a pilot and a POW.

    He deserves and gets none as a politician.

    No man is good at everything. He got elected on his military record but soon proved that he wasn't suited to his new career. Why the people of Arizona keep electing him, I cannot fathom. Except that Arizona continues to turn more and more liberal as the years go by. The rotten apple of California keeps spreading its poison, I guess.


    He "Saved the A10"
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We are going to see a steady stream of #NeverTrumpers and others who refused to support the R candidate when Trump was chosen come out of the woodwork trying to regain relevance and influence. We have seen it in our local R party.

    The answer to all of them must be: *...with a fencepost.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
    We are going to see a steady stream of #NeverTrumpers and others who refused to support the R candidate when Trump was chosen come out of the woodwork trying to regain relevance and influence. We have seen it in our local R party.

    The answer to all of them must be: *...with a fencepost.


    Nailed it Sir.
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    F**k Mcshame. Nothing but a sellout.
  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    McCain could have stopped Obama in 08 and didn't and Trump knows this too.

    McCain had the ability to force the issue of natural born citizen, as he was running against obama and had standing to bring suit, and didn't. Trump pushed a little, then stopped short of getting him out.

    So neither are saints, but McCain far worse.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,108 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SG
    F**k Mcshame. Nothing but a sellout.



    Thumbs up on that one.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    his time is long past
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,298 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd be willing to bet he'd support waterboarding to interrogate his daughters kidnappers for more information....if such happened [;)]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
    I'd be willing to bet he'd support waterboarding to interrogate his daughters kidnappers for more information....if such happened [;)]


    I would say, that is correct.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If there was another 9-11, McCain would change his opinion.
  • woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not a Problem
    I would Say No Waterboarding Allowed Anymore
    From Now On We Are going to Do As the Muzlimes Do Cut of the Heads And Stick Them on a Pole
    Yup Sounds Fair to Me[^]
    Woodrow
  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We keep electing him because we have to tie the hands of a democratic president. This time around we thought shrillary was going to win.quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    McCain deserved and got all my respect as a pilot and a POW.

    He deserves and gets none as a politician.

    No man is good at everything. He got elected on his military record but soon proved that he wasn't suited to his new career. Why the people of Arizona keep electing him, I cannot fathom. Except that Arizona continues to turn more and more liberal as the years go by. The rotten apple of California keeps spreading its poison, I guess.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I am correct, Navy Seals ( Navy Pilots)are "water boarded" during sere training...
  • wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
    McCain should remain silent like he did when he failed to support our man Trump...




    He can't remain silent! Just like when he couldn't remain silent when he was a POW.

    That's why they called him, "The Song Bird"!
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
  • jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Turn them over to the Israelis
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    John McCain... I respect his service and respect him as a person. Respect, however, doesn't mean I like the man nor do I think his IQ is terribly high. In my opinion he'd be far better off keeping his pie hole closed and leaving us to guess about his smarts rather than knowing.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    His arrogance is evident in his comment. He doesn't care what Trump or ANYONE else says "We will not waterboard"

    Who the hell left him in charge?

    IF America decides to use that type of tactic John McCain needs to live with it.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • tccoxtccox Member Posts: 7,379 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    WTH is wrong with chemical interrogation?? Such as "truth serum" ie Sodiam penthomal? (SP) I have had the shots and I would sing until they would have to shut me up! Which is the reason why if you were given anything to put you under, they had to have a cleared officer to be by your side at all times. Tom
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    I do not think waterboarding is necessarily torture, but it could certainly rise to that level.

    The glorious Trump said that he would re-institute the order to do so should the need arise.

    The military refused to participate the last time... which of those military members were wrong in doing so, and what did you say about them then ? It violates both US law and the Geneva convention, making any such order illegal.

    McCain was correct in calling Trump out on the matter.

    Somebody was an idiot to bring the matter up in the first place.

    Sheesh.


    Terrorists are not covered under the vaunted Geneva Convention. Those protections are offered only to soldiers in uniform.
    Sheesh!
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maverick my @$$, he is a man trapped in a liberal body.
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    McCain is a worn out irrelevant has-been. That being said, I do agree that it is time to can the waterboarding program. Having worked in the intelligence field for the past 40 years, I will state that I would be very reluctant to recommend any command actions based on information gained through torture interrogation. I think there is way too much incentive for the subject to try to accommodate and please the interrogators in an attempt to stop the torture to believe that the information gained is reliable. I would put a much higher confidence in the results of chemical and psychological interrogation, if it was conducted by experts and they got repeat information that could also be corroborated from other sources. I would recommend terminating the physical torture methods, such as water boarding, as too unreliable.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    McCain served his country in the Armed Forces,,but is a dud as a political person.
    Go away and live the rest of your life in peace.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gunnut505
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    I do not think waterboarding is necessarily torture, but it could certainly rise to that level.

    The glorious Trump said that he would re-institute the order to do so should the need arise.

    The military refused to participate the last time... which of those military members were wrong in doing so, and what did you say about them then ? It violates both US law and the Geneva convention, making any such order illegal.

    McCain was correct in calling Trump out on the matter.

    Somebody was an idiot to bring the matter up in the first place.

    Sheesh.


    Terrorists are not covered under the vaunted Geneva Convention. Those protections are offered only to soldiers in uniform.
    Sheesh!




    Don't confuse him with facts. It just confuses the liberal mind.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Warning Trump is becoming a national pastime. Every time some Democrat says DON'T DO THAT, then it's obvious DOING THAT is the better decision.

    Now it's Republicans issuing the warning.

    Maybe instead of draining the swamp, the swamp could become a petting zoo for Traumatized Democrats and maintained by RINOs.

    Liberals were about to have an orgaism at the thought Romney might be Secretary of State. That's why my belief is it will never happen.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well maybe your beloved Hillary should be brought up on charges as in Bengazi,,,you think that wasn't "torture" to call 600 times, and get no help. Hillary is passed out on meds, she can't be disturbed by you little minions.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    But the thrust of the argument so far has been that waterboarding is ok when applied to "unlawful combatants," people who do not satisfy Article 4 of the Geneva convention and hence need not be afforded the standards of treatment applied to prisoners of war:
    https://invisiblecollege.weblog.leidenuniv.nl/2007/12/13/on-waterboarding-and-the-geneva-conventi/

    Anyone who believes our enemies won't hesitate to cut off your, ears, nose, head, fingers, toes, **** and ****'s are delusional. Edit: Burn you alive with flame thrower.

    A Muslim man in England went on the street saying:

    "my people will cut off your *****, Christians . . . I'll kill you, I'll kill you all . . . I'm going to chop your head off, and **** you up."

    http://tinyurl.com/cut-off-your
  • wiplashwiplash Member Posts: 7,145 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    Well maybe your beloved Hillary should be brought up on charges as in Bengazi,,,you think that wasn't "torture" to call 600 times, and get no help. Hillary is passed out on meds, she can't be disturbed by you little minions.


    If you have any real facts about the matter, feel free to post them.




    Here's a fact.

    You talk like you are our Enemy.
    There is no such thing as Liberal Men, only Liberal Women with Penises.'
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    Well maybe your beloved Hillary should be brought up on charges as in Bengazi,,,you think that wasn't "torture" to call 600 times, and get no help. Hillary is passed out on meds, she can't be disturbed by you little minions.


    If you have any real facts about the matter, feel free to post them.




    The fact is, you would be better prepared to blaze with Cat Fancy and do an interview with them. Why you post here is a mystery. I mean you are a superior intellect, hung like a donkey, don't take meds, a girls dream, and a far left liberal. It's like, we are all long tailed cats in a room full of rocking chairs. I feel so anxious and afraid when you post. [|)]
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by wiplash
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    Well maybe your beloved Hillary should be brought up on charges as in Bengazi,,,you think that wasn't "torture" to call 600 times, and get no help. Hillary is passed out on meds, she can't be disturbed by you little minions.


    If you have any real facts about the matter, feel free to post them.




    Here's a fact.

    You talk like you are our Enemy.


    It's foolish to call those who disagree with you an Enemy.

    The fact is that the matter of torture is a settled matter, in both treaty and law.

    I am willing to change my opinion if facts are presented that demonstrate my opinion to be in error.

    I am surprised that you cannot or will not.

    Why is that ?
    "If'n your not with us, yuse is against us" Seig Heil!
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ....anything our vaunted "dear" Barz says is factual....he is "Snopes" on steroids.....I thought if you did not sign the Geneva Convention,you were not bound to the rules...BTW , ask the Muslim that beheaded the person on TV if he is a member?..Barz is my hero![:o)]
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