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A Time to Kill
Bullzeye
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A Time to Kill was on CBS last night. Although I've read a number of Grisham's books, I wouldnt have even known it was one of his if I hadnt of read it in the opening credits.
I thought it was pretty good though. I appreciated that they did make an effort of showing that both extremist groups (both the KKK and the NAACP) were only out for their own political gain.
But the entire theme of the movie got me thinking.......if a similiar situation was to arise in your life, where some random scumbag violated your wife or daughter, would you be willing to spend life in prison to guarantee that he got what was coming to him?
My answer personally, though I have no wife or daughter, would still be a resounding YES. Except I'd probably chain him in my basement for awhile first.
Tell me what you think. And be honest.
Life in prison (or even the death penalty) to ensure that he/they met their maker in a timely fashion. Worth it? Not worth it?
I thought it was pretty good though. I appreciated that they did make an effort of showing that both extremist groups (both the KKK and the NAACP) were only out for their own political gain.
But the entire theme of the movie got me thinking.......if a similiar situation was to arise in your life, where some random scumbag violated your wife or daughter, would you be willing to spend life in prison to guarantee that he got what was coming to him?
My answer personally, though I have no wife or daughter, would still be a resounding YES. Except I'd probably chain him in my basement for awhile first.
Tell me what you think. And be honest.
Life in prison (or even the death penalty) to ensure that he/they met their maker in a timely fashion. Worth it? Not worth it?
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I've seen this incident discussed on here several times.....the father guns down his child's rapist in an airport on live TV.
This gives the background and tells what happened to those involved.
But the liberials would think me to be barbaric,
To them they would rather explain how a raped and beaten woman lays in the street, than how that same woman could repel an attack by shooting the scumbag, and him laying in the street.
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
So please bullz, don't tell us older quys what you will do when the boogeyman comes, cuz you don't know any more that we do.
You're indulging in fantasy and expressing it. That's OK for a 10-year-old, but expressing it is a very unhealthy sign for an adult.
Clouder..
In this society we live in , one must prepare himself or herself, in the event of attack on oneself, (ant the probability is growing by the days) could I react, could I take that life, in order to save a life?
Very hard question, and I dont beleive there is a definitive answer to it.
Most people couldnt do it.
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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And that is exactly what I mean. You were faced with it. It was not conjecture, hyperbole or hot air, you were presented the challenge and therefore can tell us what you did, not what you might have done.
You were a good lawman, something that's getting harder and harder to find and the reason for the scarcity can be layed right at the feet of the off-kilter nut who would take your duty to himself and get several people killed in the process.
Some will never see the whole picture, only that part that stars them.
Clouder..
Bullzeye, You have expressed you thoughts very clearly. Now I have a question for you. You are married with three children. A scumbag kills your wife in a horrible manner. Now , Are you going to take his life , And face justice as you have proclaimed?.. If so then you will deprive your three children of a Mother & a Father. Then they could face being wards of the State due to YOUR actions.
Bullzs, I so wish I at 57 years old, Possessed the wisdom you do, You are a remarkable BOY.
The most important things, Are not things.
The rapist and murderer should be afforded more rights than the victoms. The father who kills the man that raped and mutilated his daughter is transformed into an "off-kilter nut", while the perverted criminal is a product of his environment and deserves to be treated fairly.
I don't know who's rational is more perverted, the psychopathic child raping murderer or the people who would blame a man for avenging the brutal rape and murder of his daughter.
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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Let me just say this: There have been countless threads that were hijacked by Sir Clouder the Almighty and turned into vulgarity-laden insult sessions, only poofed when I dared to show cheek to an individual obviously superior in every fashion, as opposed to willingly acceding to the dirt-crawling peonistic admittance of my pitiable ignorance that the "elder and wiser heads" deigned I should have.
Even after all that, I never thought I'd see the day when an upfront and totally justified display of righteous indignation and internal sense of justice would hit the chopping block to protect the feelings of that caustic and contemptable poltroon of a man.
Well if expressing righteous disgust at a man who refused to consider whether he'd be willing to protect his own flesh and blood from a rapist makes me a felon worthy of summary deletion, then truly my faith and energy have been grievously misplaced here.
And if having some semblance of a code of deep-seated morals at the practically pre-natal age of 18, and likewise the downright disgusting nerve to affirm them to the faces of my detractors, makes me unworthy of your sage attentions, then please just save us both the time and trouble, and direct your attentions elsewhere.
Think thru what is being written,and don't let blind anger take over.Make your opponent mad..you win...this cuts both ways.
A cold martialing of facts will carry the day more often then not..even if not quite so delicious,in the short run.
You didn't ask for advise,so forgive me for offering it.
A hero,in my opinion,was the dad in Florida who's son was kidnapped by a filthy pervert from Kaliforncation.When the marshals escorted the perp thru the airport,dad turned away from the phone and shot the filthy perp dead...case closed.
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I do appreciate your advice. Very much so. I sorely wish we had more gentlemen of your caliber around here.
Age often brings wisdom, but not always. Likewise, youth often brings foolishness, but not always. I've known quite a few ignorant old men and worldly youth in my limited time on this earth. And it's taught me that nothing is cut and dried.
That is one thing that grates on my nerves.
I also refused to be patronized, especially on something so basic and fundamental to my conscience as defense of the defenseless. To suggest that age would take away that natural instinct is deeply offensive to me.
If you're a decent person, your morals dont age. You learn them, you reinforce them, and you defend them. But you dont lose them or change them to suit the circumstances.
That is what seperates a man of decency from a common cur of a poltroon.
That was my point.
And again I thank you for your wise words, Highball.
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Purely as an aside, not directed at anyone in particular, just musing ...... how long is Bullzeye going to stay 18? Seems like I remember when he first came on line, he said something about being 18, and that was, how long ago?
The most important things, Are not things.
Amen brother. Preach it.!!
Clouder..
I know that if I lost my family like that I don't know if I would be thinking right. Of course I would want to pay him for what he took. How do I know that he is not paying everyday for taking a family for not being responisble. I don't really know what I would do, because taking a life is different then just saying you would.
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
I agree completely with your first statement.
But referring to the rest of the post, you would have to do both (kill a person and a rabid animal) before you could compare. And I doubt you have done either.
Most sane people abhor a rapist or a molester but proclaiming what you would do to one is just so much hot air. We all know what we'd like to do but that's a different proposition entirely.
It's really not that complicated an issue.
Clouder..
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
Clouder..
Just because you lack the self awareness and fortitude to know yourself and how you'll respond in certain situations does not mean others do also.
110% correct. One coward's opinion does not make a hill of beans.
I've been thinking about what all of you have said and I am getting this conclusion. If somone came into your home and tried to harm your loved ones, you would indeed try to terminate the criminal? Would you not reach for your weapon and do all possible to keep your wife or child safe? If any of us answer "I'm not sure" you need to do some soul searching, It's a shame to think that anyone would second guess acting to save an innocent life, that's the way this world is going...too much thinking and not enough acting ...
4God you summed it up in your last post..
I KNOW what I would do
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I have trained my daughter in gun safty and and shooting and insist that my wife train and pratice with all our firearms all of which are kept loaded and ready to use at a moments notice(the most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun)(no underage children in the home)(no gun locks either)
in this manner I feel that she and my daughter are safe wither I am there myself or not. the side benifits of this are my wife has never complained about a new gun,I have someone to go shoot with which is more fun,and if this kind of perv did come to call he willleave in a body bag. Put there by myself or my wife.since she shoots better than I do it will be up to the M.E. to decide just who killed him
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