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Fricking fracking Senko

mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
I cannot fish Senkos to save my life. I fully acknowledge that they are an amazing lure, well worth the huge price, that there is nothing a Virginia smallmouth would rather hit most days then a pumpkin green Senko, and that watching them do that little sink, float, wiggle thing underwater is astounding. An inanimate lump of plastic should not move like that. Period.

But I can't fish them to save my life. I just can't. I have no idea when I have a hit, can't feel the fish, can't tell when a bass thumps it. My buddy throws them weedless with a unpegged weight on the end and catches bass like I collect the mail. Nothing to it. I throw them hook exposed, no weight, essentially letting the fish catch itself. And I miss fish left and right.

I have tried for years and can't get the hang of it. A few years ago I caught a gorgeous 5 pound James River smallie on a Senko but it was pure dumb luck. I hate to fish spinners because they tear up the fish and I'm worried they won't recover well when released.

Perhaps if I spend my remaining years attending church weekly, living right, and helping little old ladies across the street, after death God himself will let me in on the secret.

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  • asphalt cowboyasphalt cowboy Member Posts: 8,904 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have you tried using a circle hook?
    I fish mainly walleye and channel cats. My walleye catch numbers shot up when I started using circle hooks.
  • notnownotnow Member Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fishing can be like golf, in that , if it's not working, something needs to change. How about retrieval speed. How slow can you go. My son can slow it down to minute hand speed. My patience and concentration won't allow that. Well guess who catches more bass. What about "randomness" of speed, direction, depth, jigging type motion are some of what I try to use. I fish smaller lakes and streams that get a good bit of fishing traffic. Experience has taught me if it looks like a lure, all I'll get is exercise. The more the lure is colored like the water I'm fishing, the better I do. I mean tint or hue. Some waters are darker some lighter because of the make-up of the plant life, sun exposure, the soil color of the bottom and the algae that grows in it. I'm stuck on Gulp Minnows these days. I can't get away from them. I could be carrying 5 lbs of lures but when my hand goes in the bag, out come the Gulp minnies. Good luck.
  • 4627046270 Member Posts: 12,627
    edited November -1
    I used mister twister Killer Shads, I loved them, But then they stopped making them, I loved all over, cant find any more of them,
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I cannot feel the strike/hit with lures like that I use a finger over the line while working the lure and am able to feel everything including curious bumps.
  • notnownotnow Member Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is it possible that your rod and line don't match up well. When I used getzit jigs the bass usually hit on the drop rather than the lift. It was hard to get in the habit of lifting slowly to start in case I had a bite. Line that was too heavy would draw and coil just enough to dampen the sensitivity I needed to feel the bite
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,496 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you fishing them "wacky" style, hooked in the middle with no weight, you might switch to a hi-viz line like yellow braid, with a 3-ft fluoro leader. And watch that line! You'll see the line twitch before you feel it.

    Or, fish them drop-shot style with a weight on the end of the line and your hook tied in above it. Lower your rod tip, not raise it, to jiggle the worm. Lower, then tighten until you feel the weight again.

    Either way, pause for one long second on those light bites before you strike to let the fish get the whole worm into its mouth. On hard hits, that doesn't matter.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    If you fishing them "wacky" style, hooked in the middle with no weight, you might switch to a hi-viz line like yellow braid, with a 3-ft fluoro leader. And watch that line! You'll see the line twitch before you feel it.

    Or, fish them drop-shot style with a weight on the end of the line and your hook tied in above it. Lower your rod tip, not raise it, to jiggle the worm. Lower, then tighten until you feel the weight again.

    Either way, pause for one long second on those light bites before you strike to let the fish get the whole worm into its mouth. On hard hits, that doesn't matter.


    This ^^^^
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    I fish plastics with no weight besides the weight of the hook and watch the line to see when I get a hit. I keep a little slack in the line as I return it and if I see a foot or so of line disappear then I give it a pop and yell SON!!
  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am most impressed by my buddy and his unpegged weight. I have no idea how he feels the hit, and we fish in moving water. He nails them, though.

    I did try his St. Croix rod and was astounded at how much more sensitive it was. He uses a rather heavy weight too. I throw just the senko with the hook exposed because I love the gentle wiggle as it suspends.

    I used a lead-head jig head to catch my nice smallie. Let it fall down by some underwater cliffs and the big one zipped out and got it.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I talk to my nephew before he leaves for WI who is running to compete in the top 5 Bass Master ProAm this year- He has a modified Carolina Rig setup he does with his 2$ plastic worms up to his $40 3D baits. If I recall, a tiny split shot was added but can't remember the location. The kid is hot! and has the gift. Give him water he will find fish.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just talked to him- He uses a modified punch skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzIMkN_xTtM
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