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Gun, medical pot groups blast ATF policy

FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
edited September 2011 in General Discussion
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HELENA, MT. - A gun group and medical marijuana advocates expressed outrage Tuesday over a new federal policy clarifying that it is illegal for medical marijuana cardholders to buy firearms and ammunition and for dealers to sell these products to them.

Gary Marbut, president of the Montana Shooting Sports Association, and Kate Cholewa and Chris Lindsey, board members of Montana Cannabis Industry Association, separately blasted the Sept. 21 letter sent by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives of the U.S. Justice Department to federally licensed firearms dealers.

"It is egregious that people may be sentenced to years in a federal prison only because they possessed a firearm while using a state-approved medicine," Marbut said in a statement from the association.

Cholewa said: "In fact, the policy goes so far as to say even being in possession of a medical cannabis card forfeits a citizen's Second Amendment rights whether or not that person ever followed through and used cannabis for their condition."

Chris Lindsey, a lawyer specializing in medical marijuana cases, wrote: "With a stroke of a pen, the Department of Justice has suspended the Second Amendment for those who use medical cannabis."

Rep. Diane Sands, D-Missoula, who headed an interim legislative panel that studied the issue last year, called the letter "further evidence that federal marijuana law trumps any Montana legislation, initiative or court action attempting to create protected medical use for marijuana."

"The only viable action open to Montana and other states is to change the federal law," Sands said.

The federal letter reiterated the Justice Department's position that marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law. The memo added that "there are no exceptions in federal law for marijuana purportedly used for medicinal purposes, even if such use is sanctioned by state law."

Federal law makes it illegal for someone to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearms or ammunition to a person "knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substances," the memo said.

"Therefore, any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition," it said.

The memo says people who are using medical marijuana should answer "yes" to a question on that issue on the Firearms Transaction Record form that asks: "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?" Gun dealers must refuse to sell firearms or ammunition to those answering yes.

If a gun dealer has reasonable cause to believe the person is an unlawful user of medical marijuana, the letter says the dealer may not sell guns and bullets to the person, even if he answered no to the question.

Chris Bone, who works in the gun department at Capital Sports & Western, said those working in sporting good stores have no way of checking whether someone wanting to buy guns or ammunition has a medical marijuana card.

He said he's never had a customer answer yes to that question, Bone said.

In his statement, Marbut, said called it "more than unfortunate when a constitutional right - the right to bear arms that people have reserved to themselves from government interference - is arbitrarily taken away by what many see as an overbearing and overintrusive federal government.

"This is a matter, however hotly contested, that should be left to the discretion of the Montana Legislature, not a bureau of the executive branch of the federal government."

Marbut asked why the right to bear arms isn't treated the same as the freedoms of the press, religion or speech.

Cholewa said the federal government is rescinding gun rights after the Legislature tried to subject citizens to warrantless searches with the medical marijuana law. The federal government is "unable to fight the truth that hundreds of thousands are finding relief through medical cannabis.

"They have neither facts nor science to support their position so the federal government is using force, threats and the denial of their constitutional rights. They've invested billions in misinformation about cannabis. They don't like having their message undermined by data and experience."

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    medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is weird is that the ATF says the Federal Govt does not recognize pot as having any medicinal properties...so therefore the person cannot claim that its use is medicinal and not recreational.

    But then I read this today...the FEDS are giving pot to people for "medicinal" purposes...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/28/national/main20112623.shtml
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    Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Further to the statement previously mentioned:quote:Federal law makes it illegal for someone to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearms or ammunition to a person "knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substances," the memo said.Never mind marijuana.....how does the law affect injured people who are on opiate-based (morphine) prescription drugs, which are prescribed for chronic pain?
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    medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am willing to bet that anyone on long term pain control meds are deemed to be medically/mentally incapacitated under the federal guidelines and they would list them as non-eligible to own/possess firearms.

    I know several people in the military who are taking oxycodone or oxycotin for pain management due to injuries sustained as a result of work related injuries. They are being looked at for discharge from service or medical retirement. The findings of that Medical Evaluation Board could be used to deny firearms rights based upon "altered mental" status as a result of long term Schedule 2 narcotics.
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    Alan RushingAlan Rushing Member Posts: 9,002 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Catch 22 in practice here and now today. [:(] [V] [:(]
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    DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Drugs for which you are prescribed and alcohol are legal to possess and use. Obviously using a firearm under their influence is no more advised than is operating a motor vehicle under their influence. Is the DMV likewise going to make owning cars for these people illegal?
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
    Is the DMV likewise going to make owning cars for these people illegal?


    Ding Ding Ding we have a winner! [:D]
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    DocDoc Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The purpose of the ATF is to expand the list of prohibited persons until nobody can own a gun.
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Doc
    The purpose of the ATF is to expand the list of prohibited persons until nobody can own a gun.


    +1 Absolutely! Any avenue, any means.
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