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Very Rare "SHORTY FORTY" Handgun... (Cont'd)

ZW85354ZW85354 Member Posts: 160 ✭✭✭
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
Forum Family,

Already reached the Lock-out limit on the GB "Ask the Experts" Forum, so I'm transferring the "lively" discussion here...

I've repeatedly (11/16/08, 11/22/08, 11/26/08) asked a VERY SPECIFIC (two-part) question on the GB "Experts" Forum, and have received some TRULY well-intentioned and helpful replies from some GREAT GB members....to those members I am very grateful.

The (two-part)question was:

(A) Anybody seen (or heard) of another one of these 3 3/8" BARRELLED Stainless Steel .40 CAL Semi-Auto handguns?

(B) Whether you have or have not....would you mind directing me towards a person or other source that MIGHT put me on the right track to one of these SPECIFIC (Short-Barrelled) handguns ?

So far, ZERO sightings of another SHORT .40 like mine have been reported...(including on several other major Fireams Forum sites, and after more than two weeks of continuing research at numerous other sources).

Apparently, by mentioning the simple FACT that nobody else has reported seeing another one yet, I created EXTREME ANXIETY amongst several "star-studded" members here....

To THOSE members, I offer the following:

See question "(A)"....See question "(B)".....FOCUS.......Repeat....

(Now...Before you sent me your replies, did you REALLY believe that your replies would help me out...or did you just feel the need to appear important and increase your "post" count?)

Also to those members (or anyone else), PLEASE show me where I've previously posted ANYTHING ABOUT THIS HANDGUN that warrants the type of juvenile, sniping, off-topic replies that have been so proudly offered?

I HAVE NOT made ANY "special" claims about this gun's value or performance...I've only indicated that based upon increasing evidence to date, it's APPARENTLY VERY RARE...

If my simple, understandable curiosity as to "HOW RARE" my own gun actually is causes anyone that much grief, then maybe appropriate "therapy" would be to locate me a few of 'em...so that I don't need to repeat the "disturbing" question so often...

* * * For anyone interested in a more DETAILED account of this on-going search for a twin to my SHORT .40, PLEASE read the aforementioned posts in the GB "Ask the Experts" Forum...(including all of the links) BEFORE posting a reply....I honestly believe that's the only way we're not gonna keep repeating the same "Non-Question A and B" issues over and over....

* * *(The quickest way to review these might by to click on my blue username in the "Author" column to the left... The "Profile" page then links to each of my previous posts, all of which are about the Short .40 Cal...)

Thanks for your interest,

ZW
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    Hey Z,
    I wouldn't know one if i tripped over it. can you post a picture?
    I can keep an eye out for it at gun shows if i know what it looks like![;)]
    tom
  • ZW85354ZW85354 Member Posts: 160 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey tplumeri,

    I'm still slowly groping my way through the "technical" aspects of this site...(including attaching links). If I attempt that before I'm proficient, I'm likely to cause a major site "meltdown"...

    Try this:
    - Click on my blue Username, (in the "Author" column to the left)
    - then (on my Profile page) click on the "find all non-archived posts" link, (in the "Basics" box, on the right side of the page).

    Those posts are specific to my "Short .40 Cal" search, and have EXCELLENT INFO and PHOTOS included...

    Thanks for your interest, and your offer to be on the lookout...(just be careful, though...they look a lot like the AMT AUTOMAGS....)

    ZW
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You'll get more straightforward answers if you just ask a straightforward question and describe what you are asking rather than ask people to search your previous posts to figure it out.

    As you know Wyoming Arms is out of business. They were succeeded by Laseraim who also went under. This is a link to an article which briefly mentions the pistol you are asking about. Might be of interest to you.

    http://www.bren-ten.com/website/id59.html

    It appears not many of the .40 were produce, but the 10mm seems to have been more popular.

    The only thing I can suggest is check the auction sites from time to time and ask the question on all the gun forums occasionally. I lucked into an S&W 60-9 that way.

    Good luck with your search.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • ZW85354ZW85354 Member Posts: 160 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey JamesRK,

    God love ya, brother.....I know you're sincerely trying to help, but I've been NOTHING BUT "STRAIGHTFORWARD" for over two weeks now...

    Your reply is THE PERFECT EXAMPLE of why I requested that ANYONE who VOLUNTEERED a reply would PLEASE take a couple of minutes to CAREFULLY review my previous posts...BEFORE REPLYING HERE.....

    If somebody is not interested enough in ACTUALLY CLEARLY UNDERSTANDING what they're replying to...then their reply is not likely to be very helpful...

    If you HAD carefully read my previous posts, you'd see that EVERY SINGLE ITEM OF INTEREST that you offered in your reply has been covered already...How could I have been more specific and straightforward than I was when I wrote:

    "PLEASE read the aforementioned posts BEFORE replying...I honestly believe that's the only way we're not gonna keep repeating the same "Non-Question A and B" issues over and over..."

    I had hoped that if I left out a few details, the truly interested individuals would ACTUALLY READ the previous posts, ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND the questions, and consequently ACTUALLY give a more helpful response.

    JamesRK, the link you provided is an EXCELLENT one, with EXCELLENT information and an EXCELLENT PHOTO of a gun that looks VERY MUCH like mine...(and yeah, it was in those previous posts)...But THANK YOU for posting it here for others to see, (since I was currently unable to get it posted here).

    Now before replies start flooding in about Wyoming Arms Parker 9mms, 10mms, .45s,...let me get real "straightforward". The item I'm attempting to find is descrbed as follows:

    WYOMING ARMS PARKER STAINLESS STEEL .40 CALIBER SEMI-AUTOMATIC HANDGUN, WITH A 3 3/8" BARREL.

    On this (and several other forums) it's been over two weeks of the "TWIGHLIGHT ZONE".....Like the "Firearms Version" of Abbott and Costello's "WHO'S ON FIRST?"

    Something like this:

    ABBOTT - Seen another gun like this?...Know maybe where I might find one? I've been searching sources A,B,C,D and E for two solid weeks, so I ALREADY know X, Y and Z about the history of the company, and the reported performance reputation of the firearms produced by this company. I'm NOT claiming it's valuable. But looks like it IS RARE (in this SPECIFIC barrel length). I'm just trying to locate another one..."

    COSTELLO - Those guns are crap...Why haven't you checked source A, B and C to find one. You're in a DELUSIONAL FANTASY when you claim your gonna hit the lottery with one of those...

    ABBOTT - Uh, I JUST SAID that I checked those sources, and I DIDN"T claim my gun was valuable....Have you ever seen one?

    COSTELLO - Well OF COURSE...Here's a link to one of your SO-CALLED "RARE" guns...I found it in 20 seconds, ...why didn't you check source E, you Genius...

    ABBOTT - Uh, Thanks...I saw that on source E two weeks ago....that gun's NOT the same caliber as mine...Nice picture though...And the expert stating that stuff about "very rare" is pretty cool...

    COSTELLO - Well, I heard X, Y and Z about that company. You should have checked into that... I see that same EXACT GUN all the time...here's a link to one for sale, (in a different barrel length than yours).

    ABBOTT - Didn't I JUST SAY that I also heard X, Y and Z about that company? Yeah...so apparently I already DID check into that.
    You saw the same EXACT GUN, but with a DIFFERENT barrel length?....Guess maybe it's NOT the same EXACT GUN then, huh?

    COSTELLO - SO WHAT!!!!....SO WHAT IF YOUR GUN IS THE ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND THAT WAS EVER MADE!!!!. THAT COMPANY WAS CONSIDERED CRAP BY A LOT OF PEOPLE...BESIDES, WHO WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THAT THE RARITY OF ANY "OUT OF PRODUCTION / ONE OF A KIND" GUN WOULD ADD A SINGLE PENNY TO IT'S COLLECTOR VALUE!!!! YOUR "RARITY" AND THREE BUCKS WILL GET YOU A CUP OF COFFEE AT STARBUCKS!!!!!

    ABBOTT - I said I WAS AWARE of the general performance reputation of the company....NEVER claimed my gun is valuable...I just wanna know where I can find some more EXACTLY like it.

    COSTELLO - QUIT CLAIMING IT'S VALUABLE!!!! NO!!! IT'S NOT VALUABLE!!!! NO!!! IT'S NOT!!!!!


    ****For those of you who DON'T want to take the time to read my previous posts before you reply, believe it or not....the above is (SADLY) less exaggerated than you might think...

    ****For those that DO take the time, THANK YOU...


    Gonna post this now...haven't checked the site for a few hours before this posting, so it'll probably be interesting....

    Thanks again,

    ZW
  • Hunter MagHunter Mag Member Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D] ZW those Abbott and Costello replies are very typical on every subject here. [:D]
    The first priority of many is to degrade and discredit one another.
    Label one an "idiot" whenever possible.

    Sorry this is off topic but I found your A&C replies funny as heck and so very true. [:D]

    Good luck and happy turkey day!!
  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ZW85354.....well you have already received more than adequate answers from our remarkably uninformed members here who obviously don't understand the thrust of your incredibly simple to understand question. I think you should take your question, your incredibly POS firearm, and your remarkably snippy attitude to another site where you can continue to try and generate interest for something that has no interest. All you really need to know here is that no one has heard of your POS. Translated that means that some of the most knowledgable people in the field of firearms in the United States know nothing of your POS and further could care less. Please go to another firearms site and pursue the answers to your question. If there was another firearms site whose members I truly loathed I would point you in that direction....but alas, like so many others here, I can be of no assistance to you in that endeavor. All we really would like of you is just to leave.....oh and please take you "shorty forty" with you.

    I'm going to take a chance and assume that you are just some ignorant 14 or 15 year old kid with lots of immature machismo clouding your thought processes.....but you might consider, in the future, that when you ask a question of others be a little humble because you are the one lacking the information that you are seeking. No thanks of course are necessary for the information this forum has imparted to you.....just leave and don't come back until you can act a little more mature...say when you reach 21 or 22 years of age. Beach
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beach, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Some adults can be surprisingly immature. [;)] [:D]

    Actually, I think his chances of finding the other "shorty forty" are about as good as finding the other person (Joe Biden) who say "God love ya, brother", but I didn't want to be that blunt.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 2005 26th edition Blue Book of Gun Values page 1796 lists the following:

    Wyoming Arms MFG.Corp.
    Previously manufacturer located in Thermolois, WY. Very small quantities of Parker pistols were mfg.

    Parker Pistols: Stainless Steel
    Standard Pistol - 9mm Para, 10mm, .40 S&W, or 45 ACP cal., 3 3/8, 5, or 7 in barrel, 7 (45 ACP), 8 (10mm & 40 S&W), or 9 (9mm Para) shot mag., Millett adj. sights, grooved synthetic grips, 29-39oz. Disc 1992.

    100% 98% 95%
    $350 $300 $250

    Add $50 for 7 in. barrel.

    .357 Mag. - .357 Mag. cal., single action semi-auto, 7 in. barrel, adj. sights, 8 shot mag., lifetime warranty, 44 oz Disc. 1992.

    100% 98% 95%
    $425 $350 $300



    Too bad you don't have the 357 mag. that might bring $375 used at a gun shop.

    Instead of trying to find another 40S&W you might want to see if you can collect 1 of every caliber and barrel length. You know, collect the whole line.

    You want to be sure to only buy guns that come in the original box with all the accessories. This looks like a nice 1 to add to your collection:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=117048845

    I would pass on guns that don't come with the original boxes.
  • DBMJR1DBMJR1 Member Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I love threads about dead horses. Here's mine!
    deadhorse.jpg
    Anyone else have one?
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My google foo is strong today:

    http://marina.fortunecity.com/harbour/347/10mmpub/ch/ch0492wap.html


    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=94285
    In the above link there is a poster that knows the owner of the company. You might contact him to see if you can get a phone # for the original owner of the company. That owner could give you production #'s for your shorty forty. He might even have another example for you to purchase.

    Here's the post from the highroad:
    November 23rd, 2008, 07:10 PM #13
    millman85
    New Member



    Join Date: 11-20-08
    Location: Wyoming
    Posts: 3 my name is josh and i am a personal friend of the main pistol designer greg market, i will talk to him the next time i see him and see if he has any spare parts left over after he clesed the doors. he still runs a machine shop in the same building and i grew up with his son and have known greg for over 15 years. lemme know if your interested or i wont waste my time.
    __________________
    Fear The Government That Fears Your Guns

    Google lists the following for Greg Market Thermopolis Wy:

    Greg Market (307) 867-2348 1200 Jones Rd,Thermopolis, WY 82443

    I wouldn't call him today being it's Thanksgiving.
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    I have one of those. What do you want to know about it?
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Searching the old address of:
    210 Highway 20 South
    Thermopolis, Wyoming 82433
    307-864-5503

    Looks like the company might've been sold to:
    Aldila Material Technology Corp
    210 Highway 20 South, Thermopolis, WY, 82443

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Aldila+Material+Technology+Corp&btnG=Search
  • redhead71redhead71 Member Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DBMJR1
    I love threads about dead horses. Here's mine!
    deadhorse.jpg
    Anyone else have one?
    well i have some stamps and some dog food here[:D][:D][:D]
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DBMJR1
    I love threads about dead horses. Here's mine!
    deadhorse.jpg
    Anyone else have one?


    Looks like he needs a watering.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This dead horse is making me thirsty. [xx(]
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Way back when..at the beginning..the rant started when the original question had over 700 views, and no answers.

    I was one of those 700. I couldn't answer (to your satisfaction, "ZW") the question. Six Hundred and Ninety-Nine others also could not.

    On the experts forum, that in and of itself, [700 views-no help] is actually an answer. I would have accepted it at face value, and moved on.

    Don't feel too bad..many times I cant get satisfaction to my queries. Used to really bother me. I overcame. Best, Joe
  • ZW85354ZW85354 Member Posts: 160 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Group,

    *** beachmaster73, Spider7115, DBMJR1, redhead71, Chris8161,.......Boys, there's not much left to say...(that is allowable in this forum)...but that's okay...your posts speak for themselves, and they prove my point....PERFECTLY....Thanks for that...

    *** JamesRK,....Once again, I'll repeat that I KNOW your reply was well-intentioned, and I DO appreciate that. If ANYTHING in my response to your reply is Factually incorrect, PLEASE let me know...and I'll publicly apologize and make a correction immediately. Yeah, the "tone" of my response seems "snippy"...but YOU'RE the one that directed me to be "more straightforward"...(seems like I'm darned if I do, and darned if I don't...)

    ***drobs, Thanks VERY MUCH for the helpful info...That individual who reportedly has a DIRECT "Wyoming Arms" Company connection is one of the BEST leads that I've received...You and GB Member REC (Per the GB "Experts" Forum) share the credit on that one... Thanks to you both!

    ***Hunter Mag,....THANK YOU, MAN!.....I KNOW that the VAST SILENT MAJORITY of the GB members are thinking along the same lines as we are...but, MERCY!!!....the VOCAL MINORITY here can sure try a man's patience...You and yours have a great Thanksgiving as well, and the same to ALL of the GB Members...(INCLUDING our occasionally "disfunctional" friends here...)

    ***warpig883,...DO WE FINALLY HAVE A "BINGO"?.......ARE YOU SERIOUS?.....Man, if you ARE, I want to know ANYTHING you know (or have heard or seen) SPECIFICALLY about YOUR (and ANY other) Wyoming Arms Parker 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Cals...

    Wanna start a "Club"?!!!(If there's not one already...which looks kinda doubtful so far...)

    Feel free to e-mail me privately, and I'll give you my cell number (if that's better for you)...With your permission, I'll share what we learned with other Forum Members who might be interested.

    P.S. - This is Thanksgiving, (not April 1st...), but if you DO have a twin to my .40...Then to me, today's an EARLY CHRISTMAS!

    ZW

    Metro Phoenix, AZ
    zwtcb@aol.com
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Way back when..at the beginning..the rant started when the original question had over 700 views, and no answers.

    I was one of those 700. I couldn't answer (to your satisfaction, "ZW") the question. Six Hundred and Ninety-Nine others also could not.

    On the experts forum, that in and of itself, [700 views-no help] is actually an answer. I would have accepted it at face value, and moved on.

    Don't feel too bad..many times I cant get satisfaction to my queries. Used to really bother me. I overcame. Best, Joe

    Joe - The reason you didn't get an answer was because we like you and were only trying to spare your feelings. However, if you absolutely must know...



    Yes, she is your evil twin...





    rosie-oterror.jpg
  • USN_AirdaleUSN_Airdale Member Posts: 2,987
    edited November -1
    ZW, have you ever considered entering your data into google ??

    quote:***WYOMING ARMS PARKER Stainless Steel .40 Caliber Semi-Auto Handgun, with a 3 3/8" barrel***


    WYOMING ARMS "PARKER" .40S&W S/A Pistol, Stainless Steel, fixed sights, excellent shape throughout $350.00.

    www.jcunard.com/firearms.htm

    if you try real hard away from this forum you can find what you want, i entered your info into google and.., try it http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WYOMING+ARMS+PARKER+Stainless+Steel+.40+Caliber+Semi-Auto+Handgun%2C+with+a+3+3%2F8%22+barrel&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ZW85354
    Hey Group,

    *** beachmaster73, Spider7115, DBMJR1, redhead71, Chris8161,.......Boys, there's not much left to say...(that is allowable in this forum)...but that's okay...your posts speak for themselves, and they prove my point....PERFECTLY....Thanks for that...

    *** JamesRK,....Once again, I'll repeat that I KNOW your reply was well-intentioned, and I DO appreciate that. If ANYTHING in my response to your reply is Factually incorrect, PLEASE let me know...and I'll publicly apologize and make a correction immediately. Yeah, the "tone" of my response seems "snippy"...but YOU'RE the one that directed me to be "more straightforward"...(seems like I'm darned if I do, and darned if I don't...)

    ***drobs, Thanks VERY MUCH for the helpful info...That individual who reportedly has a DIRECT "Wyoming Arms" Company connection is one of the BEST leads that I've received...You and GB Member REC (Per the GB "Experts" Forum) share the credit on that one... Thanks to you both!

    ***Hunter Mag,....THANK YOU, MAN!.....I KNOW that the VAST SILENT MAJORITY of the GB members are thinking along the same lines as we are...but, MERCY!!!....the VOCAL MINORITY here can sure try a man's patience...You and yours have a great Thanksgiving as well, and the same to ALL of the GB Members...(INCLUDING our occasionally "disfunctional" friends here...)

    ***warpig883,...DO WE FINALLY HAVE A "BINGO"?.......ARE YOU SERIOUS?.....Man, if you ARE, I want to know ANYTHING you know (or have heard or seen) SPECIFICALLY about YOUR (and ANY other) Wyoming Arms Parker 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Cals...

    Wanna start a "Club"?!!!(If there's not one already...which looks kinda doubtful so far...)

    Feel free to e-mail me privately, and I'll give you my cell number (if that's better for you)...With your permission, I'll share what we learned with other Forum Members who might be interested.

    P.S. - This is Thanksgiving, (not April 1st...), but if you DO have a twin to my .40...Then to me, today's an EARLY CHRISTMAS!

    ZW

    Metro Phoenix, AZ
    zwtcb@aol.com





    Hey, what did I say???? Just that the horse looked thirsty to me!
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try the CZ-100 in .40, nice gun!
  • HobbyGuyHobbyGuy Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let's see.......a poorly designed weapon, that was poorly manufactured, has poor overall performance and was also poorly advertised. Gosh, why did they stop offering them? Oh that's right, they are junk and nobody in their right mind would buy one, let alone carry one for a defense application. [B)]

    Jim

    PS: I know where you can find a deal on a like new Jennings. It has about the same quality and features. I think it actually fires too. [:D]
  • bigtirebigtire Member Posts: 24,800
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by beachmaster73
    ZW85354.....well you have already received more than adequate answers from our remarkably uninformed members here who obviously don't understand the thrust of your incredibly simple to understand question. I think you should take your question, your incredibly POS firearm, and your remarkably snippy attitude to another site where you can continue to try and generate interest for something that has no interest. All you really need to know here is that no one has heard of your POS. Translated that means that some of the most knowledgable people in the field of firearms in the United States know nothing of your POS and further could care less. Please go to another firearms site and pursue the answers to your question. If there was another firearms site whose members I truly loathed I would point you in that direction....but alas, like so many others here, I can be of no assistance to you in that endeavor. All we really would like of you is just to leave.....oh and please take you "shorty forty" with you.


    +1

    (that means I agree wholeheartedly)
  • MrOrangeMrOrange Member Posts: 3,012
    edited November -1
    I weep for my inadequacies in my failure to assist the ZW85354.

    All ye respondents: Go, and sin no more.









    'Sides, every NORMAL person knows that the "Shorty Forty" title is only correctly applied to the S&W PC pistola that was offered in the early '90s.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=80610fc031860bc423cfcba072d2f67f&attachmentid=11870&d=1109028471









    so, there!








    yeah







    take that
  • HobbyGuyHobbyGuy Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MrOrange
    I weep for my inadequacies in my failure to assist the ZW85354.

    All ye respondents: Go, and sin no more.

    'Sides, every NORMAL person knows that the "Shorty Forty" title is only correctly applied to the S&W PC pistola that was offered in the early '90s.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=80610fc031860bc423cfcba072d2f67f&attachmentid=11870&d=1109028471

    so, there!

    yeah

    take that



    smith_410s.jpg

    That looks very similar to my 410S. [^]

    Jim
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    quote:Yes, she is your evil twin...



    YIKES!![:0][:0]
    [:D]
  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the laughs ZW
    You are freakin hilarious.

    CP
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    quote:PS: I know where you can find a deal on a like new Jennings. It has about the same quality and features. I think it actually fires too.

    New production is under name "Jimenez".
    stupid name for a gun manufacturer, in my humble opinion.
    But NIB for under $100.......

    [img][/img]w22pictr4.th.jpg[img][/img]
  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
    quote:Originally posted by MrOrange
    I weep for my inadequacies in my failure to assist the ZW85354.

    All ye respondents: Go, and sin no more.

    'Sides, every NORMAL person knows that the "Shorty Forty" title is only correctly applied to the S&W PC pistola that was offered in the early '90s.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=80610fc031860bc423cfcba072d2f67f&attachmentid=11870&d=1109028471

    so, there!

    yeah

    take that



    smith_410s.jpg

    That looks very similar to my 410S. [^]

    Jim




    Take another look or get your eyes checked. They aren't even close.
  • ZW85354ZW85354 Member Posts: 160 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Group,

    ***** HobbyGuy, bigtire, givette, beachmaster73, spider7115, DBMJR1, redhead71, and some other notable GB members (who have previously "scolded" me on the GB "Ask the Experts" Forum), such as beantownshootah, rufe-snow, etc............

    MAYBE there's a REASON you Gentlemen don't have THE RED STARS by YOUR names on this site......

    Until you do, I'll trust the judgement of the Gentlemen that do...This is THEIR HOUSE...and I'll defer to THEIR discretion and advice regarding what to post and when to leave....If they need your help, I bet they know how to find you...

    Yeah...I'm a "Newbie"...Not just here, but to this whole "Online Forum" business.........A few weeks ago, after asking my local Gunsmiths, Dealers, Appraisers and other firearms experts about my 3 3/8" Barrelled Handgun, ALL of them were stumped...so several of them referred me to THIS site.

    Site Posting Guidelines seemed pretty clear...Ask (a) "SPECIFIC" question(s) on the "Ask the Experts" Forum.... which gives THOUSANDS of Firearms experts and enthusiasts the opportunity to ANSWER (that/those) SPECIFIC question(s).........*(hence the "10 replies" Lock-Out limit).

    Figured anyone who didn't have a specific answer to the question would simply "Pass", and move on to another Topic...(thereby saving one of those limited 10 slots for somebody who had a corresponding specific, answer or two...)

    Guess I must've MISSED the part in the rules where after a certain number of "Passes", the question should be withdrawn from the site....or the rule that if a tiny group of CERTAIN members don't approve of the question(s), or don't like the firearm manufacturer's general reputation, or don't like a Topic Starter's attempts to TRY TO REPEATEDLY CLARIFY THE SPECIFIC QUESTION(s) in an effort to direct incoming replies SPECIFICALLY BACK TO THE PRIMARY QUESTION(s)....that the Topic Starter should banish themselves from this site...

    As I stated before, I KNOW that the "Silent Majority" of GB Members can relate to my recent frustration...(I'd be surprised if most of 'em haven't been down the same road here....)

    .......THEY ALL know the difference between "BEATING A DEAD HORSE",..... and beating a very small group of MULES that are TECHNICALLY ALIVE...........(but demonstrate CONVINCING evidence of being "BRAIN-DEAD"...)

    I've tried to be clear about the fact that I HAVE done, (and CONTINUE to do) my "homework" on this search...I have Googled DAILY for weeks, regularly check Online Auctions, and MANY other sources.....

    As previously stated here, some GREAT GB Members have given me a few GREAT leads that I had not found on my own.....but many more replies have been repeatedly recycled, off-topic, or just mean-spirited squawking....

    Am I really wrong for doing my level-best TO KEEP OTHER MEMBERS FROM WASTING THEIR TIME, TOO,... and turning the thread into a "Tail-Chasin' Dog" ...?

    I GUARANTEE that several members who replied have spent MORE TIME Googling and forwarding re-hashed or off-topic info than if they had simply read ALL of my previous posts.......I'm just sayin'.......

    And ONCE AGAIN...The TOPIC is SPECIFICALLY regarding the existence of (or NEW info that might lead me to) some other SHORT 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Calibers like mine ......

    Once I find a few more of these, I'm sure I'll have many other general and specific questions, which (*if I haven't stepped on the wrong toes here), I'll present in this Forum....

    If ANYONE wants to share ANY NEW Wyoming Arms Parker information with me right now (that is NOT SPECIFIC TO A 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Cal) I would ABSOLUTELY BE GRATEFUL.......

    But PLEASE....(Alright...Yeah....I'm BEGGIN'......), either hold off for awhile...or send it to me PRIVATELY...


    ***** MrOrange........addressed in earlier posts...(sigh)

    ***** mrseatle......Off-Topic...but I'll check it out..........(sigh)

    ***** Chris8161.....Off-Topic...(Class C Misdenmeanor; "Encouraging Delinquency") Status: Probation

    ***** USN_Airdale....Addressed in earlier posts, bro...


    (We'll see how the "Straightforward, but Briefer" approach works...)


    ZW

    Metro Phoenix, AZ
    zwtcb@aol.com
  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    (A) Anybody seen (or heard) of another one of these 3 3/8" BARREL Stainless Steel .40 CAL Semi-Auto handguns?

    (B) Whether you have or have not....would you mind directing me towards a person or other source that MIGHT put me on the right track to one of these SPECIFIC (Short-Barrelled) handguns ?

    So far, ZERO sightings of another SHORT .40 like mine have been reported...(including on several other major Fireams Forum sites, and after more than two weeks of continuing research at numerous other sources).

    Yeahthat tells me everything I need to know.
  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where do you people come from???
  • WackyMajikWackyMajik Member Posts: 41 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ZW85354
    Hey Group,

    ***** HobbyGuy, bigtire, givette, beachmaster73, spider7115, DBMJR1, redhead71, and some other notable GB members (who have previously "scolded" me on the GB "Ask the Experts" Forum), such as beantownshootah, rufe-snow, etc............

    MAYBE there's a REASON you Gentlemen don't have THE RED STARS by YOUR names on this site......

    Until you do, I'll trust the judgement of the Gentlemen that do...This is THEIR HOUSE...and I'll defer to THEIR discretion and advice regarding what to post and when to leave....If they need your help, I bet they know how to find you...

    Yeah...I'm a "Newbie"...Not just here, but to this whole "Online Forum" business.........A few weeks ago, after asking my local Gunsmiths, Dealers, Appraisers and other firearms experts about my 3 3/8" Barrelled Handgun, ALL of them were stumped...so several of them referred me to THIS site.

    Site Posting Guidelines seemed pretty clear...Ask (a) "SPECIFIC" question(s) on the "Ask the Experts" Forum.... which gives THOUSANDS of Firearms experts and enthusiasts the opportunity to ANSWER (that/those) SPECIFIC question(s).........*(hence the "10 replies" Lock-Out limit).

    Figured anyone who didn't have a specific answer to the question would simply "Pass", and move on to another Topic...(thereby saving one of those limited 10 slots for somebody who had a corresponding specific, answer or two...)

    Guess I must've MISSED the part in the rules where after a certain number of "Passes", the question should be withdrawn from the site....or the rule that if a tiny group of CERTAIN members don't approve of the question(s), or don't like the firearm manufacturer's general reputation, or don't like a Topic Starter's attempts to TRY TO REPEATEDLY CLARIFY THE SPECIFIC QUESTION(s) in an effort to direct incoming replies SPECIFICALLY BACK TO THE PRIMARY QUESTION(s)....that the Topic Starter should banish themselves from this site...

    As I stated before, I KNOW that the "Silent Majority" of GB Members can relate to my recent frustration...(I'd be surprised if most of 'em haven't been down the same road here....)

    .......THEY ALL know the difference between "BEATING A DEAD HORSE",..... and beating a very small group of MULES that are TECHNICALLY ALIVE...........(but demonstrate CONVINCING evidence of being "BRAIN-DEAD"...)

    I've tried to be clear about the fact that I HAVE done, (and CONTINUE to do) my "homework" on this search...I have Googled Daily for weeks, regularly check Online Auctions, and MANY other sources.....

    As previously stated here, some GREAT GB Members have given me a few GREAT leads that I had not found on my own.....but many more replies have been repeatedly recycled, off-topic, or just mean-spirited squawking....

    Am I really wrong for doing my level-best TO KEEP OTHER MEMBERS FROM WASTING THEIR TIME, TOO,... and turning the thread into a "Tail-Chasin' Dog" ...?

    I GUARANTEE that several members who replied have spent MORE TIME Googling and forwarding re-hashed or off-topic info than if they had simply read ALL of my previous posts.......I'm just sayin'.......

    And ONCE AGAIN...The TOPIC is SPECIFICALLY regarding the existence of (or NEW info that might lead me to) some other SHORT 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Calibers like mine ......

    Once I find a few more of these, I'm sure I'll have many other general and specific questions, which (*if I haven't stepped on the wrong toes here), I'll present in this Forum....

    If ANYONE wants to share ANY NEW Wyoming Arms Parker information with me right now (that is NOT SPECIFIC TO A 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Cal) I would ABSOLUTELY BE GRATEFUL.......

    But PLEASE....(Alright...Yeah....I'm BEGGIN'......), either hold off for awhile...or send it to me PRIVATELY...


    ***** MrOrange........addressed in earlier posts...(sigh)

    ***** mrseatle......Off-Topic...but I'll check it out..........(sigh)

    ***** Chris8161.....Off-Topic...(Class C Misdenmeanor; "Encouraging Delinquency") Status: Probation

    ***** USN_Airdale....Addressed in earlier posts, bro...


    (We'll see how the "Straightforward, but Briefer" approach works...

    ZW









    I feel your pain man.

    I asked a similar question, to no avail..........

















    thong.jpg
  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whereis Quacky these days?
  • HonestBluesHonestBlues Member Posts: 859 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by WackyMajik
    quote:Originally posted by ZW85354
    Hey Group,

    ***** HobbyGuy, bigtire, givette, beachmaster73, spider7115, DBMJR1, redhead71, and some other notable GB members (who have previously "scolded" me on the GB "Ask the Experts" Forum), such as beantownshootah, rufe-snow, etc............

    MAYBE there's a REASON you Gentlemen don't have THE RED STARS by YOUR names on this site......

    Until you do, I'll trust the judgement of the Gentlemen that do...This is THEIR HOUSE...and I'll defer to THEIR discretion and advice regarding what to post and when to leave....If they need your help, I bet they know how to find you...

    Yeah...I'm a "Newbie"...Not just here, but to this whole "Online Forum" business.........A few weeks ago, after asking my local Gunsmiths, Dealers, Appraisers and other firearms experts about my 3 3/8" Barrelled Handgun, ALL of them were stumped...so several of them referred me to THIS site.

    Site Posting Guidelines seemed pretty clear...Ask (a) "SPECIFIC" question(s) on the "Ask the Experts" Forum.... which gives THOUSANDS of Firearms experts and enthusiasts the opportunity to ANSWER (that/those) SPECIFIC question(s).........*(hence the "10 replies" Lock-Out limit).

    Figured anyone who didn't have a specific answer to the question would simply "Pass", and move on to another Topic...(thereby saving one of those limited 10 slots for somebody who had a corresponding specific, answer or two...)

    Guess I must've MISSED the part in the rules where after a certain number of "Passes", the question should be withdrawn from the site....or the rule that if a tiny group of CERTAIN members don't approve of the question(s), or don't like the firearm manufacturer's general reputation, or don't like a Topic Starter's attempts to TRY TO REPEATEDLY CLARIFY THE SPECIFIC QUESTION(s) in an effort to direct incoming replies SPECIFICALLY BACK TO THE PRIMARY QUESTION(s)....that the Topic Starter should banish themselves from this site...

    As I stated before, I KNOW that the "Silent Majority" of GB Members can relate to my recent frustration...(I'd be surprised if most of 'em haven't been down the same road here....)

    .......THEY ALL know the difference between "BEATING A DEAD HORSE",..... and beating a very small group of MULES that are TECHNICALLY ALIVE...........(but demonstrate CONVINCING evidence of being "BRAIN-DEAD"...)

    I've tried to be clear about the fact that I HAVE done, (and CONTINUE to do) my "homework" on this search...I have Googled Daily for weeks, regularly check Online Auctions, and MANY other sources.....

    As previously stated here, some GREAT GB Members have given me a few GREAT leads that I had not found on my own.....but many more replies have been repeatedly recycled, off-topic, or just mean-spirited squawking....

    Am I really wrong for doing my level-best TO KEEP OTHER MEMBERS FROM WASTING THEIR TIME, TOO,... and turning the thread into a "Tail-Chasin' Dog" ...?

    I GUARANTEE that several members who replied have spent MORE TIME Googling and forwarding re-hashed or off-topic info than if they had simply read ALL of my previous posts.......I'm just sayin'.......

    And ONCE AGAIN...The TOPIC is SPECIFICALLY regarding the existence of (or NEW info that might lead me to) some other SHORT 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Calibers like mine ......

    Once I find a few more of these, I'm sure I'll have many other general and specific questions, which (*if I haven't stepped on the wrong toes here), I'll present in this Forum....

    If ANYONE wants to share ANY NEW Wyoming Arms Parker information with me right now (that is NOT SPECIFIC TO A 3 3/8" Barrelled .40 Cal) I would ABSOLUTELY BE GRATEFUL.......

    But PLEASE....(Alright...Yeah....I'm BEGGIN'......), either hold off for awhile...or send it to me PRIVATELY...


    ***** MrOrange........addressed in earlier posts...(sigh)

    ***** mrseatle......Off-Topic...but I'll check it out..........(sigh)

    ***** Chris8161.....Off-Topic...(Class C Misdenmeanor; "Encouraging Delinquency") Status: Probation

    ***** USN_Airdale....Addressed in earlier posts, bro...


    (We'll see how the "Straightforward, but Briefer" approach works...

    ZW









    I feel your pain man.

    I asked a similar question, to no avail..........

















    thong.jpg
    My eye...now my good eye is blurry...dang it!!
  • JorgeJorge Member Posts: 10,656 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's entertainment!

    [:X]
  • HobbyGuyHobbyGuy Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
    quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
    quote:Originally posted by MrOrange
    I weep for my inadequacies in my failure to assist the ZW85354.

    All ye respondents: Go, and sin no more.

    'Sides, every NORMAL person knows that the "Shorty Forty" title is only correctly applied to the S&W PC pistola that was offered in the early '90s.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=80610fc031860bc423cfcba072d2f67f&attachmentid=11870&d=1109028471

    so, there!

    yeah

    take that



    smith_410s.jpg

    That looks very similar to my 410S. [^]

    Jim




    Take another look or get your eyes checked. They aren't even close.


    No Scrappy, you take a look at the link and a view of the 410S. One is simply a scaled-down model of the other (length and height), but with a "bobbed" hammer. Duh. [B)]

    Jim
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not a .40, a .45, but has a 3 3/8" barrel, and engraved. Sold for $275. Lot #328 on the list. Very small pic, but here it is:
    56_328_1.JPG
    http://www.proxibid.com/asp/CatalogPrint.asp?aid=2107
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
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