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California bashing
mark christian
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I just came on board here last week and I love the site and am having a fine time but I don't understand the down right distaste...bordering on hate, that some posts seem to have for California. If it is a matter of our gun laws, well I can name four or five states with laws as bad or worse than those we have here. I don't read anyones posts from Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, or Hawaii getting folks so worked up. My god, posts from New York City seem to rate sympathy! California has sent a bad group of "politicos" to D.C., but other states have folks as bad or worse. What is the real story behind this? I have another home in Utah...will that exempt me from some of the punishment?
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing!"
Mark T. Christian
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing!"
Mark T. Christian
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Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
I live in NJ, the most joked about state in the Union and do I get mad?.........YOU BET I DO, DAMN IT AND YOUSE GUYS BETTER STOP IT!
Charlie
"It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
1.A near miss is still a miss!
2.Before I got married I spent half my money on women and guns,THE REST I WASTED!
3.Wasn't me!
4.KILL EM' ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM' OUT!
We folks that are away from there, (far away), don't see how we could help those that obviously haven't been helping themselves. Outsiders can't vote....that State's voters can.....but do they? Must not care or they are very misguided in their views.....but when they become miserable enough they will do something.
Any invite from the folks living there to come join them seems an exercise in futility to me, and an excuse to abuse one's self if you did go there! How could "Non-Voters" help?
You said you had another home in Utah.....evacuate your family and yourself! I would do it quick too, before the barbed wire went up!
I lived there for most of 22 years, and nobody here holds it against me. I feel sorry for anyone living under such restrictive gun laws, but I don't hate the folks. I just think the politicians have a certain looniness when it comes to their willingness to abridge the rights of their people in the name of liberty, California-style.
When I was there I bought my M1 Carbine, which I still own and enjoy. Since I moved back here, I've bought & sold an Uzi, an AR15 H-Bar, a SPAS-12, and still have an AK-47 type 56 which I would have to sell before I could move back there. It's a shame that people get disarmed at the door when they go to live there. And of course, I have had my Indiana CCW for years, and not carrying would feel strange there too. I would apply for a permit of course, and doubtless be rejected, from what I hear.
But you're not any less welcome here than anyone else, not at all. Don't confuse our amazement at state politicians and their gun laws flaunting the Second Amendment for distaste for you and yours.
- Life NRA Member
"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
At least the last four statements can also be made about IL, NY, NJ, MD, HI and my own special albatross, the People's Republic of Kennedy - which would still be too close to home if were in on the other side of the earth rather than 90 miles down the road. I really don't dislike California (see, for you, I even spelled it the way it appears on the maps! ), however I detest, loathe & hate the crawling liberal cockroach dung that infests & controls the state.
Using the term "Kalifornia" is simply a shorthand reference to the 70% or so of the putatively sentient occupants who ruin it - and the rest of the country. When I say I'd like to see it swallowed up by the San Andreas Fault or a similar event, I really don't mean the state, but the mushbrain liberals. So if the shoe doesn't fit, please pass it along to Gray Davis, and I can provide several suggestions on where it would fit him, 'K?
1.A near miss is still a miss!
2.Before I got married I spent half my money on women and guns,THE REST I WASTED!
3.Wasn't me!
4.KILL EM' ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM' OUT!
"Trust me< I know what I'm doing!"
Mark T. Christian
"If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there."
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Welcome to the forum and glad to meet another pro-gun resident of this state.
So many guns, so little money . . .
Yeah, we have a lot of stupid laws and politicians who regularly push the limit of sanity, but we are not alone. For example, in Cincinatti, it is legal to own an M-16 (Ohio is a Class III state), but an AR-15 is banned because it is an "assault rifle". Moynihan probably gave lessons to Feinstein and Boxer. In fact, others should be glad that there is a California because our state tends to attract wacked-out liberals from the rest of the country.
Ranchero Paul - Why would I want to move to Utah? Where I live, I can have a beer with my steak at just about any restaurant on any day of the week. If I want a six-pack for personal use at home, the State doesn't tell me when and where I can buy it. Heck, I can even make my own! California may have a neo-socialist government, but it is not a theocracy that discriminates against minorities and women. My point is that politics can be dirty in many ways and our freedoms are in peril across the country. It has been this way since Day One, 4 July 1776. Let's stick together on these issues instead of bashing one another because we live in another state. We are all in the USA, after all.
By the way, I don't blame anyone for choosing to live in another state. It's a free country (for now) and each person must be free to decide the course of his life. Moving away from security, family, and friends takes courage, but the crap that goes on in this state can make the decision real easy.
Veritas morsum, autem veritas est verus
WOOF.
I, personally, dislike the liberal bias of the state and the level in which political correctness has damaged the more feeble-minded people of that state. Take the Berkley University...they are having a memorial ceremony on Wednesday, but they have banned
The US Flag
The Pledge of Alleigance
The Star Spangled Banner
and anything else that might have anything to do with OUR country or religion. It just seems that the craziest laws and ideas come out of the left coast.
I'm sure the people are good...atleast the ones that can think for themselves.
Welcome aboard...and thank GOD we have atleast one more pro-gun vote in California.
Alex
The 9th District Court has decided the way we track years is illegal because it is based upon the death of Jesus Christ. Starting next year we will start with the year 0001.
It's just a matter of time before someone in Kalifornia thinks of this because it offends their religion.
We're not saying that every single thing about California is wrong.
But go ahead and look at the facts sometime.
California,
*the toughest place to purchase a firearm
*gun shows are not even gun shows anymore
*the whole smoking idea
*semi autos
*drug trafficing
*Near highest crime inner city per capita
*liberal bedweters within a stone throw
*fricos Happy go GAY population
*Droughts/Fires every year
*earthquakes
*hunting laws (hard core)
*The underground Comi's
*Thats where Jeff Gordon is from
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*the toughest place to purchase a firearm
-Doubtful, as some other states have the same laws.
*gun shows are not even gun shows anymore
-Cose Mesa's gun show is now nearly as large as the huge Pomona show used to be, and the Anahiem show ain't bad either.
*the whole smoking idea
-Sucks. I don't have much to argue there.
*semi autos
-What about them??? As long as they don't have pistol grips...it's bull, but CA's not alone in that crazy law.
*drug trafficing
Besides your typo, I'd argue that Texas (oh, god NO!) and Florida are right up there, and let's not overlook what comes in from Canada through WA and ID!
*Near highest crime inner city per capita
Near? Not nearly as bad as Baltimore, Wachington D.C., New York, Detroit or Chicago.
*liberal bedweters within a stone throw
Riiiiiight. I fear for your mental health if you ever went to Colorado, Oregon, Washington of New Mexico!!!
*fricos Happy go GAY population
I think you meant "Frisco's", but that's ok I don't actually have anything against gays. Most gays I've known try harder than anyone to bring good deeds to the world, probably because they've had to deal with more small-minded hatred in their lives than most gun owners. (don't confuse 'gay' with 'liberal', they are not the same)
*Droughts/Fires every year
True, but the droughts are more political than real. I've been through several, and you just don't water the grass as much. As for fires, yeah, we got 'em but not as bad as CO or AZ seem to.
*earthquakes
I'd MUCH rather deal with a littleground movement than a Hurricane's tidal surge or 200mph winds. And, speaking of wind, I'd be a bit scared to live in Tornado Alley too. Measurable quakes only happen every 10 years or so, the bad ones only every 30. Tornados and hurricanes are ANNUAL events for most of the southern and eastern states and impact a much larger area than even a 8.0 quake!
*hunting laws (hard core)
I don't know, I've only hunted in Canada. I would guess that there are significantly fewer places to hunt in CA than most mid-western states because we have a high population, and because the population and industry is spread out over a large part of the state. What isn't housing or computer companies is usually farmland or a state park.
*The underground Comi's
What crack are you smoking? There are DEFINATELY no underground comis here! They are all above-surface and proud of it. Stupid people, but at least they are easy to spot
*Thats where Jeff Gordon is from
And it's where we have Ontario Speedway, Laguna Seca, Sear's Point Raceway, The Oakland Roadster Show, Hot Rods by Boyd, Moonies, BDS Blowers, CA's the birthplace of both custom cars (one of only two art forms indiginous to the US) and top speed racing, miles of great off-roading (if you like desert) and more hot rods than anywhere else in the world! Did I forget to mention that CA's where nearly ALL of the world's car companies have design studios?!
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Edited by - Palantirion on 09/09/2002 17:15:39