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Kalifornia may require Heston to give up his guns

RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
LINK: http://slate.msn.com/?id=2069253

Will Charlton Heston Have To Give Up His Guns?
By Bryan Curtis
Posted Friday, August 9, 2002, at 3:44 PM PT

Actor Charlton Heston announced today that he has symptoms of Alzheimer's disease. Heston is the president of the National Rifle Association and owns firearms. If he is diagnosed with full-blown Alzheimer's, will he have to give up his guns?

Yes. This section of California state law requires that anyone who represents a threat to others because of a mental disorder or illness can't own a firearm. The state also denies gun ownership to those suffering from any kind of grave illness. For Heston to lose his Second Amendment rights, a court would have to find that he has a grave illness or represents such a threat.

Here's how the process would work: If Heston's doctor suspects him to be unfit, California law compels the doctor to tell the local district attorney's office. The DA would then file a motion to revoke Heston's gun ownership rights. A judge would make the final call, after consulting with Heston's physician and, in most cases, another doctor of the judge's choosing.

If a judge found Heston unfit, the actor would have two options: surrender his guns to authorities or legally transfer their ownership to someone outside his house. (Giving the guns to his wife might still put them within his reach.) Heston's name would then be added to the state's Armed Prohibited Persons File-a list of California residents who bought their firearms legally but have since been judged unfit to keep them. That means Heston would be prevented from legally purchasing another firearm. The bill creating the no-gun file went into effect Jan. 1 and was initially supported by the NRA.

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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    It is sad to hear of his condition, but I'm sure he has the best advice of the lawyers and the NRA to make the best decision. Beleive me- the state will not get his collection!!
  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think if he puts them in his wifes name she can still keep them in the house. Felons can't live in a dwelling with firearms.

    Check out Section 8100 (B)(3)(f)"Danger to self," as used in subdivision (a), means a voluntary person who has made a serious threat of, or attempted suicide with the use of a firearm or other deadly weapon.


    http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/8100.htm


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  • hillbillyhippiechichillbillyhippiechic Member Posts: 97 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    He should just move to Montana and get out of that $&it hole place.

    PEACE..., through superior firepower.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It would be a PR disaster for anyone in California politics to pressure Heston about confiscating his guns. He is more likely to have banquets given in his honor and more accolades from places like the AFI and the Academy. I have a feeling it will be left to the family in consultation with the family physician to decide voluntarily if there is ever a time when Chuck becomes unable to properly care for his collection and they will have the sense to be pro-active about it.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would hate to see him become the sacrificial lamb with regards to this issue but it puts the state of California in a very interesting quandry. If they take away his guns there will be public outcry. If they let him keep his guns then others in his condition will be able to use it as a precendence in their defense. If I was Mr. Heston, I would stay in the state of Kalifornia just to make the libs squirm.
  • EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does this mean Feinstein,and Boxer have to give up their brooms,as they both have had mental disorders for years.
    Dr.Evil
  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    He would be more than welcome to come live in West Virginia.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    Offeror-

    Maybe and then again maybe not, Don't you think it depends what kind of extremest liberal nutcase get behind the the idea? I know the anti's only pick battles they can rig to win, but to take down an NRA figurehead like Mr. Heston would be considered a pretty damn big coup in their camp.

    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!

    Edited by - Matt45 on 08/11/2002 02:51:17
  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Are you guys forgetting that the biggest "sue nut" in the whole country lives in California?......... Michael Medlow: "I don't pledge alligence to the flag"

    He, I'm sure, would like to get his name on this case too....

    Charlie

    "It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take his aspartame (Sugar substitute) and let him have his guns...

    Aspartame is # 1 leading cause of Alzheimer's in the world....

    It deprives the brain of sugar ,magnesium & sodium turns to aluminum and poisons the brain in a very exotic transmutation ,similar to the one that chickens turn Potasium to Calcium to create egg shells .

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is sad but like was said, if he keeps his, it is not "fair" that other witht he same condition had to give them up. That would be another one of those elitist ploys.

    Let him stand with an AR15 and say from my cold dead fingers, not a flintlock.
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd tell the state of Kalifornia where to shove it if I were him, and move to Texas...

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

    The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
  • Jody CommanderJody Commander Member Posts: 855 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do You suppose Chuck will make them pry them from His cold dead fingers?
    I would think Alzhiemers could come in handy,He could shoot someone and claim He doesn't remember a thing about it. The Nixon/Reagan/Clinton defense ploy, Yes I did it but if I deny it or deny to remember it, I'm innocent!
  • Norman DogNorman Dog Member Posts: 470 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can hear it now:

    "Get your hands off my guns you damn dirty liberal!"

    Veritas morsum, autem veritas est verus

    WOOF.
  • DonldDonld Member Posts: 741 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, it's heart-rending, but it's also political suicide for us to maintain that people diagnosed with advanced dementia be allowed unsupervised access to guns, not that Heston has reached that point yet. The most infuriating aspect of this is that we'll be seeing countless jubilant anti-gun imbeciles smirking at a very good man's misfortune, as if he somehow deserved it for not meeting Hollywood's standards of political corectness.
  • sundownersundowner Member Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is a sad thing, but maybe he could donate them to the NRA Museum as a permanent collection or something of the sort before the state takes them away. Heck, US Presidents have libraries after they retire -- why doesn't the NRA create a Charlton Heston library that includes his gun collection? It could actually be a publicity coup. It shows him -- the President of the NRA -- as being proactive on an issue that the NRA supported, and proves (again) that the NRA is committed to safety in regards to gun ownership. Small ceremony with big fanfare and lots of press releases and sound bites. "They aren't taking anything from my cold, dead fingers -- I'm passing them from my warm ones so that others may . . . " sort of thing.
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